Open 290 - Double Day (Game Over)

[Klazam]

@Furc, Do I still need to explain or is it understandable why I think Hiraki is more likely scum than Confid?

more than confid? i dont care about more thans, i want to lynch a scum
we can only lynch 1, i dont give a fuck which it is

So you believe that both hiraki and confid is scum?

[Hiraki]

Pim. There is no misunderstanding. You have horrible reasoning against me, that's it.

[Pim]

Pim. There is no misunderstanding. You have horrible reasoning against me, that's it.

I do, but I realize that your entire case on me, is on the basis of a misunderstanding. Therefore, I don't really care about it.

Besides that, you still have permission to explain.

[Meransiel]

his hmmmmmm also feels faked to me, because I feel as if IF he were town, he would actually vote without just unvoting. Simply unvoting feels like scum waiting to place a vote as opposed to actually fishing out suspicions which town should do.

That's a really weak point. A really ,

really

weak point.

not really
explain why you think so

Cause it is. A lot of people unvote and then sit on their votes, it is completely unrelated to their allignments. Also, this was the only point I had to debate because the others were good points, but it seemed a bit like you were trying to overmotivate and overexplain.

In short, I do believe the guy's kinda scummy, but I'm not getting town reads on you either.

[Klazam]

Pim. There is no misunderstanding. You have horrible reasoning against me, that's it.

I do, but I realize that your entire case on me, is on the basis of a misunderstanding. Therefore, I don't really care about it.

Besides that, you still have permission to explain.

I want to see an explanation of this too.

unvote, vote hiraki

[Hiraki]

Pim. There is no misunderstanding. You have horrible reasoning against me, that's it.

I do, but I realize that your entire case on me, is on the basis of a misunderstanding. Therefore, I don't really care about it.

Besides that, you still have permission to explain.

Fuck. This is the second time in a week that I messed up two games, my apologies.

Your case is still crap though, because you're assuming that Confid is scum. Wouldn't you want Confid to flip first before voting me?

[silverbullet999]

-Pim

-Silver needs to explain why Furc's 'overreaction' is suspicious to him.

Please see post 112.

[Stephoscope]

Vote Count

ConfidAnon - (3) singersigner, Furcolow, Number58
nachomamma - (2) DrBokChoy, ConfidAnon
Furcolow - (2) Meransiel, silverbullet999
Hiraki (2) - Pim, Klazam
Number58 - Nobody Special
Meransiel - bvoigt

Not Voting: Twistedspoon, HWAG, boberz, Hiraki, Nachomamma8

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
The current deadline is Monday, April 4th, 8PM EST.

Hazard With A Glove has requested replacement.

Also, in case there was any confusion, the deadline is for Day 0.5. Once that day ends with a lynch or at the deadline, Day 1.0 will immediately begin with a new deadline. I am using the decimals so that Night 1, Night 2 etc. will make sense.

[Hiraki]

Oh btw. I looked at Meran and Confid. Eh. I could do either, but for right now, Meran needs more pressure.

Vote: Meransiel

[Nachomamma8]

One lynch from {Meransiel, Nobody Special, singersinger}
One lynch from {Number50, DrBokchoy, Hazard with a Glove, boberz}

[DrBokchoy]

vote count is wrong. nacho is not voting me.

So i'm thinking nacho likes to just post players not posting so much and then maybe will post after exiting RVS?
Hiraki why are you apoligizing, game isnt fucked yet.

FOS hiraki

[Hiraki]

Did you just FoS me for apologizing because the game isn't fucked?

I apologized because I was being a douchebag without reason. When I'm a douchebag with reason that stands, then I won't apologize.

Here's a good question. DrBokchoy. Why are you tunneling Nacho?

[bvoigt]

Unvote, Vote: nachomomma8

That's annoying spam verging on trolling. Stop or die.

Also, thanks for the links twistedspoon. Forgot to do that earlier =P

But does it make him more likely to be scum?

This is a serious question, BTW. DrBokchoy, I'd also like you to answer this, please.

[Meransiel]

Me, needing pressure? Well, who knows...

[Klazam]

Me, needing pressure? Well, who knows...

Yes you do. What was the purpose of this post?

unvote, vote meransiel

[Meransiel]

Just surprised is all. I mean, everybody needs pressure, if a wagon is already half-started, why abandon it and go for someone new?

Not a bad strategy, no, just unexpected.

Put any questions, point to anything I've said and done that looked scummy, and I'll gladly answer.

[Furcolow]

-Fur

Silver_bullet, answer this before I answer you, are you done defending confidanon/attacking his attackers?

This is a sly double sworded question. I find you suspicious for your what I would deem overreaction. But now this question if answered implies I'm fully defending confid and more generally i am or was attacking his attackers. I don't like this one bit.

Now please answer my question posted to you.

VOTE: Furcolow

You are doing that
I don't mind your vote on me, it furthers your chainsaw defense of him

@Furc, Do I still need to explain or is it understandable why I think Hiraki is more likely scum than Confid?

more than confid? i dont care about more thans, i want to lynch a scum
we can only lynch 1, i dont give a fuck which it is

So you believe that both hiraki and confid is scum?

those two and silverbullet are the ones I would be happy lynching at the moment, yes.

Pim. There is no misunderstanding. You have horrible reasoning against me, that's it.

I do, but I realize that your entire case on me, is on the basis of a misunderstanding. Therefore, I don't really care about it.

Besides that, you still have permission to explain.

this is not the response I was looking for. I felt like Pim's case on you was pretty good, actually, for d1.

his hmmmmmm also feels faked to me, because I feel as if IF he were town, he would actually vote without just unvoting. Simply unvoting feels like scum waiting to place a vote as opposed to actually fishing out suspicions which town should do.

That's a really weak point. A really ,

really

weak point.

not really
explain why you think so

Cause it is. A lot of people unvote and then sit on their votes, it is completely unrelated to their allignments. Also, this was the only point I had to debate because the others were good points, but it seemed a bit like you were trying to overmotivate and overexplain.

In short, I do believe the guy's kinda scummy, but I'm not getting town reads on you either.

I don't care if you're getting a town read on me - you must not be familiar with me
I dislike your admission of strawmanning

You linked to this post:

-Fur

someone changed my fucking name in a quote, that is bullshit

I still don't see why the blow up. Yes confid accidentally/purposefully 'misquoted you' in stating that parama stated what you said. However it's not even like Parama is in this game so it's not like there's some super secret motive or plan (that I can see) for confid to purposefully do such a thing.

Would you be offended if I had the above and below quote quoted as fur said instead of your full 'name'?

So you are admitting to completely misrepresenting someone's word who had their vote on you? Cool story bro

How did he misrepresent your word... please expand on this.

P-Edit
-singer
ehhh let me just dig a lil bit more

? I don't give a fuck if there was a motive, it's something you just don't do. You don't misrepresent someone as someone else to make your response look different. It's improper. Why are you even focusing on this as a case of an overreaction? All you said is "you blew up" and then you defend confidanon, which I'm sure you're doing; you're chainsaw defending him, and you recently furthered it by voting one of his attackers (me)

Now, if there's anything I missed, let me know.

[bvoigt]

Just surprised is all. I mean, everybody needs pressure, if a wagon is already half-started, why abandon it and go for someone new?

Not a bad strategy, no, just unexpected.

Put any questions, point to anything I've said and done that looked scummy, and I'll gladly answer.

I'm not sure how to explain it, but I don't like this post at all.

[Meransiel]

@fur: You apparently don't know what strawmanning is, as I see it. Allow me to give you a 101 definition. To strawman is to intentionally misrepresent somebody's actions in order to defeat them more easily. What I did whas to call you out for an argument that I found far-fetched, then comment on the general validity of your post, then pointing out you kind of tried too hard with those accusations, which means your arguments are somewhat suspicious, but in no way wrong (mostly). Comprendre?

@bvoigt: Ah come on, you just don't whant to admit it's gut. :d

[Nachomamma8]

One lynch from {Meransiel (+1), Nobody Special, singersinger}
One lynch from {Number50, DrBokchoy, Hazard with a Glove, boberz}

[silverbullet999]

-Fur

You are doing that
I don't mind your vote on me, it furthers your chainsaw defense of him

So because I find your reaction to confid's mistake weird as hell, I'm attacking all his attackers and trying like no mercy to show he's town. Right... someone's stretching shit and it sure as hell stinks.

Also HOW is my question double sided. AND EVEN IF IT WAS THEN WHY DID YOU BOTHER ANSWERING IT.. YOU LIE SIR

? I don't give a fuck if there was a motive, it's something you just don't do. You don't misrepresent someone as someone else to make your response look different. It's improper. Why are you even focusing on this as a case of an overreaction? All you said is "you blew up" and then you defend confidanon, which I'm sure you're doing; you're chainsaw defending him, and you recently furthered it by voting one of his attackers (me)

All he did was say that Parama said exactly what you said. How the hell does the response become any different. You over reacted and went straight to the mod about this (something I think a scumbag would be more inclined to do if they feel they can pull a mod action from it which would obviously more than likely benefit scum). I have only been defending confid with his quote. It's a small ass mistake and your the one getting all fired up about it. It's not like he quoted you as saying something you didn't, it's not like he quoted you or the mod saying stuff from a pm or anything of that sort. All he did was mislabel you as parama, a player who is NOT EVEN IN THIS GAME. I don't see how you can even claim i'm defending him like all tomorrow and attacking his attackers (unless you claim to be the only attacker). You are being very far stretched and saying full blown lies.

I think we found our day 0.5 lynch.

[Stephoscope]

vote count is wrong. nacho is not voting me.

You're voting him.

[bvoigt]

@Mod:

I think you have Nacho listed twice (once under Confid, once under Meran).

[Stephoscope]

@Mod:

I think you have Nacho listed twice (once under Confid, once under Meran).

Fixed. Thank you.

[Hiraki]

this is not the response I was looking for. I felt like Pim's case on you was pretty good, actually, for d1.

Again, the case leans on the possibility that Confid is scum.