A Storm of Swords - Lay your swords down!
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Eddard Stark Mafia Scum
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Wedding is planned to kick off in 5 hours. I am a retarded person who breaks laptops (4 in 3 years) so there may be some delay but bear with us, and it won't affect your time, I'll extend deadline if needed and stuff. This is for those who don't stalk me and didn't see my Vla announcement. (Maybe this will be a non issue, not sure on seacore's schedule.
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Thor665 Papa Smurf
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If is the SK there is no kill, and then we lynch him. Huzzah!Magua wrote:If Zdenek is the SK, he gets roleblocked. No kills.
If Zdenek is *not* the SK, the SK must then either kill, which will clear Zdenek of being the SK, or not kill.
If he isn't the SK, and there is no kill we lynch him and the SK has controlled both a roleblock and a lynch.
If he isn't the SK, and there is a kill we wasted a roleblock and gained a lynch.
I see the negatives outweighing the positives, especially since the evidence strongly suggests the first scenario is the true one. The above also rules out any diddling the scum team could do to the plan to complicate it.-
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Magua Jack of All Trades
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And lost a kill. I gladly trade "a roleblock" for "a kill".Thor665 wrote:If he isn't the SK, and there is no kill we lynch him and the SK has controlled both a roleblock and a lynch.
Both your #2 and #3 scenarios represent a win, FMPOV.-
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#3 is a SK who gets to choose a NK on a bulletproof townie. 1 is the only win I see, and 1 is a win if we lynch him right now - and is in fact more of a win.-
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Raivann Mafia Scum
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The SK does not "get a NK on a bulletproof townie". The SK loses a kill on anyone. Consider the cases if Zdenek is not the SK, and the SK chooses to no-kill to frame Zdenek:
1) We lynch Zdenek today. SK kills target #1. Tomorrow we lynch lynch #1. SK kills target #2.
2) We do not lynch Zdenek today, but instead lynch lynch #1. SK chooses to nokill. Tomorrow, we lynch Zdenek, SK kills target #1.
The difference between those two is that situation #1 results in the SK getting one more kill.-
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Andrius The Baker
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Ok, I've been busier (and less sober) than I expected to be this weekend, but my promise holds true. It probably won't happen before the thread closes for text, but I'll definitely put it into my QT, so whoever gets a table with me will love me. <3
I'm down for a Thor/Setael lynch, then Raivann/Zdenek/TS lynch."This is the true face of a man who plays paladin."-
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Fuck, I'd remembered that the wedding was supposed to start sometime on Tuesday tomorrow--not midnight on the dot in UTC. Didn't have any time for Mafia over the weekend, and tonight was going to be my reread-MoI-and-break-down-his-ISO-while-wall-posting-like-hell night.
Before the wedding starts, is there anyone who doesn't understand the code in this post (as well as the correction in this post? I will translate for my table, if necessary. Now's the last time to say anything.
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Raivann Mafia Scum
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Benmage Survivor
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Benmage wrote:These will be governed:
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I might feel the desire to govern:
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DGBBenmage wrote:The Hand speaks with the king's voice."ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Twilight Sparkle Goon
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And last thoughts:
-Just ISO'd xvart (it's always a courtesy to dead people to reread them). His suspects were Raivann, Setael, and Bunnylover, and he also agreed with Kast's list that included danakillsu and Zdenek. Upon a reread, he was playing an overall protown game and making lots of insightful observations, but with all the confirmed/widely trusted players out there, I suspect that there's scum among those three.
-Thor is scummy for a variety of reasons that I'll have to save for the QT because I don't have time for an epic case. He's usually capable of more than this as scum, though. Also, I'm not sure if all my suspects fit logically together as one team anymore.
-Zdenek, Sotty already explained that she was the one who had strong town vibes from his posts, while I was the one who suspected him (and it was really his ISOs 63 and 64, which came after Sotty's "town" post, that clued me into the fact that he didn't actually believe what he was arguing). If you actually read my case, I explicitly state this:
Unlike Sotty, I'd actually got a genuine vibe from his paranoia of us today. I've also started warming up to the case on Setael, in part for her reaction to Zdenek's claim (the one sticking point to me was her backing off after Feysal's softclaim). That said, with the exception of his Bunnylover point, he really chose the worst arguments to pick out in his Setael case--the TS one in particular was silly. Also, something that's been giving me second thoughts is that chesskid flipped VT...unlike Renly in the prequel, whose role was explicitly a lynch-triggerer. But whatever, I still don't want to lynch him today.Twilight Sparkle wrote:My (Mina’s) views on the two Mags have been the exact opposite of Sotty's. MagUa seemed to have suspected us from the beginning of D1, and I saw where he was coming from re: his view that our vote was somewhat languishing during the beginning of the day. Furthermore, his feeling better about Thor because we weren't on the wagon shows that at the very least, he has a consistent view of the game. Your attacks on us, on the other hand, felt more as though you were capitalizing on Magua’s and Ben’s objections with us and trying to get a potential threat lynched early. I also think your “soft attacks" argument was bullshit used to justify turning every objection to your play around on us (hence why I’m so sceptical of Zdenek thinking that was the SELLING point for him on the Twilight Sparkle).
-DGB has been hovering around my suspect pool all game, but I dislike Magua wanting to lynch her SOLELY for the alignments of the players she's "cleared" (although I still lean town on MagU). Also, having played with her before, I know she says crap like being 100% certain of someone's alignment just for rhetorical effect.
-Since somehow I doubt anyone read my code post, the sample Morse code translates to this:
And I'm debating if I should say everything I'm thinking about Raivann (he's still a good lynch, but to be honest, I'm no longer convinced beyond a doubt that he's scum). I will say in Raivann's defence that for the roleblocker to have successfully stopped a kill N1, he would have to be on a scumteam with MoI and diddin.Raivann wrote:RAIVANN, WHY DID YOU SAY, "WHY ARE YOU STILL ASKING ME SILLY QUESTIONS ABOUT DEAD PLAYERS WHEN YOU'RE SOLD ON ME BEING SCUM?" THAT SOUNDS LIKE THE POV OF SOMEONE WHO BELIEVES WE GENUINELY THINK YOU'RE SCUM. I REMEMBER MAGNA DOING THE SAME THING TO ME IN RESPONSE TO MY ATTACK ON HIM: "YOU'RE OBVSCUM, BUT YOU'RE SUFFERING FROM CONFIRMATION BIAS AND DELUDING YOURSELF INTO THINKING EVERYTHING I'M DOING IS SCUMMY."
Preview-edit: Raivann, I could link to about twenty posts fromA Clash of Kingsalone in which Town-Mina "dropped F-bombs," but you're not worth the effort.
-Benmage? Why did you ignore this:
and immediately vote Raivann?Twilight Sparkle wrote:Benmage, if you're voting Zdenek, and are actually thinking of governing Raiv, why the hell do you even want a claim from him?
Also, did you answer why you got mad at LMP for vigging chesskid after his softclaim when you'd been the one pushing him to do it? Can't find it in your ISO.
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I thought it was exxxtremely obvious. I wanted the lead suspects going into the wedding phase to have claimed.Twilight Sparkle wrote: -Benmage? Why did you ignore this:
and immediately vote Raivann?Twilight Sparkle wrote:Benmage, if you're voting Zdenek, and are actually thinking of governing Raiv, why the hell do you even want a claim from him?"ITT Benmage is making Shakespeare look cool. I need to bring you to my high school." -Vi
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Shadow1psc Mafia Scum
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Don't worry about this.Andrius wrote:Hey TS.
Explanations of the morse-code thing would be GREAT.
Also, I think it'd be a worthy idea to try and convey the neighborhoods too. Not top priority, but if we could do that it might be helpful."I value knowledge, logic, and deceit. I love to pursue wisdom but also to manipulate and deceive. At my best, I am brilliant and progressive. At my worst, I am treacherous and cold."-
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Ack, seven minutes left, but what part in particular don't you understand?Andrius wrote:Hey TS.
Explanations of the morse-code thing would be GREAT.
Also, I think it'd be a worthy idea to try and convey the neighborhoods too. Not top priority, but if we could do that it might be helpful.
To recap, copy and paste whatever it is you want to write in the Morse Code Translator. Morse code expresses all letters and characters in long (-) and short (.) sounds, as well as a slash for sentence breaks.
- = VOTE: MagnaofIllusion
. = UNVOTE: MagnaofIllusion
/ = VOTE: Eddard Stark
You can just do find and replace in a word document (although remember to replace the /s first, or else it'll remove them from the vote tags), and then post the coded message in the thread.
To translate, just repeat the process in reverse (replace the vote tags with /s, -s, and .s, and then translate them back to English with the translator I linked to.
p-edit: Shadow, what do you mean, "don't worry about it"? Why, because it's useless, or because it's obvious? I don't want someone to use lack of knowledge of the code as an excuse to do anything antitown.
And VOTE: Raivann, just in case.Twilight Sparkle is a majestic pony union of hitogoroshi, Mina, and Sotty7.-
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Shadow1psc Mafia Scum
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Eddard Stark Mafia Scum
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Oh, you may begin. Just as a reminder, copyapasting IN to a qt is fine, copyapasting from it is wrong afterwards.-
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