Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Zyrconium]

@TS: please stop talking, it'll probably increase your life expectancy....

[Twistedspoon]

but they're BWing me :/

again

[vezokpiraka]

You won't. Don't worry.

[Twistedspoon]

You won't. Don't worry.

but what will you say when i do?

are you willing to bet your life that I'm scum

anyways, if you're so sure then why only vote now, just after hoppster?

how wagony

[vezokpiraka]

Because I voted you before. Unvoted because Hazard said you are town and now revoted because I think you are scum.

[Nobody Special]

If this is the only defense you've got you're scum.

and when i flip town?

See, here's the thing.

You've lied once, and admitted to it. It doesn't matter that you did it "for the good of the town" -- it only matters that we've caught you in a lie.

You could be lying right now. We don't know.

Better to erase all doubt.

[ToastyToast]

I'm not really keen on a Zyrconium lynch.

why not?

[Nobody Special]

@TS: please stop talking, it'll probably increase your life expectancy....

This is a very curious thing to say.

Can you clarify your intent?

[Hoppster]

VOTE: Twistedspoon

Let's get this wagon going.

I'm not really keen on a Zyrconium lynch.

and why do you think it stopped in the first place?

because the sensible players realised it was far to risky today, and lynching a claimed PR makes no sense anyways.
srsly, if my candy-taking ability turns out to be really useful, we will have shot ourselves in the foot here

Okay, who do you want to be lynched? I doubt a Toasty lynch will happen, you're not exactly helping yourself.


Preview Edit:

I'm not really keen on a Zyrconium lynch.

why not?

I do have a couple of reservations about him, but his responses to earlier 'stimuli' make me think he's town.

Also, this just reminded me of something.

Firstly, how the hell did you get over your whole 'HOPPSTER IS SCUM THING'?

Also/Secondly, explain this please:

hoppster is acting all suspiciousy. He's accused me of rolefishing. It's hard to beat Vezok at that though.

anyways, It looks like hoppster might know too much for VT too.

Context.

How was I acting suspiciously?

[Twistedspoon]

You could be lying right now. We don't know.

Better to erase all doubt.

justifying a townie death with 'oh, well he lied' isn't enough

[Nobody Special]

Why not?

[Hoppster]

Firstly, how the hell did you get over your whole 'HOPPSTER IS SCUM THING'?

Also/Secondly, explain this please:

hoppster is acting all suspiciousy. He's accused me of rolefishing. It's hard to beat Vezok at that though.

anyways, It looks like hoppster might know too much for VT too.

Context.

How was I acting suspiciously?

Ahem.

[Twistedspoon]

you know why i lied, so i wouldn't be seen as a PR and be NK'd

and it's silly to kill a claimed PR now anyways

[ToastyToast]

You could be lying right now. We don't know.
Better to erase all doubt.

justifying a townie death with 'oh, well he lied' isn't enough

Lynch all Liars is common, so yes, it is. Given all the votes on you, its obvious that there are enough reasons to suspect you as scum. LaL philosophy just contributes

@Hoppster: the only reason I see to suspect you at scum is via relationship with zyrconium. so, your just a null read.

[Kalofer]

@ Kalofer: I don't think a mb53 lynch is going to happen. Out of Zyrc and TS, whom would you rather see lynched?

I'd much rather see a zyrc lynch. In fact I'd much rather like to see a lynch of any of these people as opposed to lynching TS:

Hazard, MB, Crazy, Hoppster, Toasty, Nobody

If this is the only defense you've got you're scum.

and when i flip town?

GOOD QUESTION, and what will you do if he flips town? What possible information does town get? That an idiot wasn't scum? And then we have the nightkill of someone like amrun who can now be said to be a proven townie for nothing? And we start from day one with two townies less?
I would feel much better knowing that I eliminated what I see as a potential lurking threat in the form of all those people mentioned above, than feel relieved that an idiot who was puking so much scumminess he totally rocketed off from the scale of scumminess to falling on what I perceive as obvitown so far that I don't believe even WIFOM would excuse him of this (yes for the first time I am dealing with absolutes in a guessing game).

SO ANSWER THIS BEFORE YOU LYNCH:

WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN/IF HE FLIPS TOWN?

[ToastyToast]

@Kalofer: So I can assume from your list that you think vezok is town? interesting

Also, that is quite a lot of people to suspect. scumpoints increase by +2

I would much rather lynch Zyrconium today. As much as I stand for LAL, I understand TS's defense. I don't like it, but I understand it.

[Hoppster]

Firstly, how the hell did you get over your whole 'HOPPSTER IS SCUM THING'?

Also/Secondly, explain this please:

hoppster is acting all suspiciousy. He's accused me of rolefishing. It's hard to beat Vezok at that though.

anyways, It looks like hoppster might know too much for VT too.

Context.

How was I acting suspiciously?

Ahem.

AHEM.

GOOD QUESTION, and what will you do if he flips town? What possible information does town get? That an idiot wasn't scum? And then we have the nightkill of someone like amrun who can now be said to be a proven townie for nothing?

What makes Amrun a proven townie? Paticularly following a Twistedspoon lynch (as in your hypothetical scenario).

Hazard, MB, Crazy, Hoppster, Toasty, Nobody

Why only these people and not Mothras, Stels & Vezok? What makes them immune from becoming a potential lurking threat?

[Hazard with a Glove]

Just saying I might not have time to really think about what's going tonight. I have/am walking home from track, so I read through the thread. I will say that TS's defense looks like something a normal Scum would make. But even if he is Scum isn't exactly the most normal Scum.

[Twistedspoon]

AHEM.

because at the time you never said why you didn't want vezok's question answering :/

[mb53]

@ Kalofer: I don't think a mb53 lynch is going to happen. Out of Zyrc and TS, whom would you rather see lynched?

Not to try and get myself lynched, but we still have a week, and anything can happen.

I think that TS is town. He was confirmed by the same role. I don't think either of them would lie, I see no motive for hazard to lie (whether he was town or scum) and no way would TS as scum successfully guess what the role does.

On a side note, I think vezo is town from his early "Do evil people want your goodies" question.

[Hazard with a Glove]

Also kalofer.
The fact is usually the first lynch might not be a Scum. Out of 13, how easy will it be to get 3/4 Scum?

So what ill do is the same thing when the person you want flips town. Especially since you want to lynch almost half the players.

[Stels]

Hazard, MB, Crazy, Hoppster, Toasty, Nobody

Why only these people and not Mothras, Stels & Vezok? What makes them immune from becoming a potential lurking threat?

You forgot to mention the other half of the player list.

@TS: please stop talking, it'll probably increase your life expectancy....

Content = Bad for town?

[Hoppster]

because at the time you never said why you didn't want vezok's question answering :/

Next, don't lynch TS. Just don't, it WILL be a mislynch.

I have my reasons.

So it's suspicious if I have mysterious reasons, but if Hazard doesn't, it's okay, because he's defending you?
And also, can't you figure out my reasons?


Also:

Firstly, how the hell did you get over your whole 'HOPPSTER IS SCUM THING'?

Ahem.

AHEM.

Answer this please.

Hazard, MB, Crazy, Hoppster, Toasty, Nobody

Why only these people and not Mothras, Stels & Vezok? What makes them immune from becoming a potential lurking threat?

You forgot to mention the other half of the player list.

I didn't mention Zyrc because Zyrc is included in the original post above the bit I quoted, and Kalofer assumes Amrun to be town for some reason. Then it's just Kalofer and TS left.

[Zyrconium]

@NS & Stels: I can't see TS's role as being scum, I can see something similar but noticeably(this is the important word) different, but not his exact role, however TS's actions are screaming scum even to me, hence TS's actions are helping a mislynch, and if he stopped doing them town would be better off...

[ToastyToast]

On a side note, I think vezo is town from his early "Do evil people want your goodies" question.

How is this a townread? His rolefishing is a negative for me.