Metropolis: Revisited [Game Over]

[Albert B. Rampage]

1. One faction decided to no-kill to avoid a lynch-and-RB day for town.

Unlikely.

[KageLord]

1. One faction decided to no-kill to avoid a lynch-and-RB day for town.

Unlikely.

So do you think it is more likely that they hit BP or a 3rd possibility?

[MagnaofIllusion]

So do you think it is more likely that they hit BP or a 3rd possibility?

Let's think shall we?

Reasons why kills may be missing -

1. Targetted Inner Circle BP Vest.
2. Godfather role was Jailkept, preventing the kill.
3. Target was Jailkept, preventing the kill
4. Target was Mediced, preventing the kill.
5. Scum chose to no-kill based to prevent a vote-roleblock when said roleblock is more likely to hit Town or other scum than themselves.

Hell I might be missing some. But you immediately leap to the No-kill conclusion and bypass 2 to 4 completely when there are multiple Security Guards and Medics is just plain stupid.

[Toogeloo]

Have been pre-prodded O.o, will post soon.

Why would you have been prodded less than a day into Day 2?

[KageLord]

So do you think it is more likely that they hit BP or a 3rd possibility?

Let's think shall we?

Reasons why kills may be missing -

1. Targetted Inner Circle BP Vest.
2. Godfather role was Jailkept, preventing the kill.
3. Target was Jailkept, preventing the kill
4. Target was Mediced, preventing the kill.
5. Scum chose to no-kill based to prevent a vote-roleblock when said roleblock is more likely to hit Town or other scum than themselves.

Hell I might be missing some. But you immediately leap to the No-kill conclusion and bypass 2 to 4 completely when there are multiple Security Guards and Medics is just plain stupid.

Yeah, I stupidly forgot that we had JKs.

I considered the Medic (and should have put it up there as a possibility), but I considered that about equal likelihood as 1 (though really it is double, considering 2 medics and me being dumb >.>), so there was no point in bringing it up (as I brought up 1, though I thought it unlikely, to bring up that whole proposal thing).

[ReaperCharlie]

Have been pre-prodded O.o, will post soon.

Why would you have been prodded less than a day into Day 2?

Not a prod. Just reminding everyone who hadn't posted yet that the thread was open, since I forgot to do it at the beginning of Day 2 like I usually do.

Carry on.

[camn]

Also consider crosskill. Both scumteams are looking for power, scum and An sk. Maybe they both saw the same thing in Agar.

Which is why speculating on there only being 1 was dumb.

DaySK!
Kill earlier today please? I'll go easier on you later if you help us now.

[Albert B. Rampage]

camn, who? You didn't pick a target like last time

[ObliviousDruidMuncher]

To the players of the game,
I forgot to let my hydra buddy know that I would be V/LA for at least a week and he was unable to keep up as he didn't expect to have to do it on his own. I take full responsibility and am sorry to have to do this, but in order to not further hinder this slot, I am going to replace out. I am extremely sorry to be leaving this game, but it truly went too fast for me to be absent for a week and is completely my fault. I hope this doesn't get us placed on RC's blacklist and I hope it doesn't influence your reads of this slot. I plan on making a final reads post before the replacement comes and I will find a replacement for the slot if RC would like.

Sincerely,
ODM

[camn]

camn, who? You didn't pick a target like last time

I haven't decided yet!
Who would you Vig, if you were a-vigging?

[ReaperCharlie]

ObliviousDruidMuncher

has, obviously, requested replacement.

Kast

is next on the replacement list... Let's see if he's up to it...

[ThAdmiral]

@ThAd

– Please address your thoughts on your ‘Second Wagon’ theory in light of yesterday’s outcome.

*shrugs*
It wasn't a perfect theory. And in any case was just that: a theory.

I also think it was warped somewhat by:
a) abr striking instead of voting like we had apparently agreed to
b) dgb more or less committing suicide. I've hardly ever seen anyone survive after self-voting seriously. And in a game where you can't take that self-vote away... It was bound to happen.

Another note - the second target was supposed to come from the people who had abstained from the original wagon, but was instead decided upon by ABR, who was a proponent of the original wagon.


In other news: Is kagelord going to do anything other than nk speculation?

vote: kagelord

[Kublai Khan]

So did anyone else think it weird that there was only one kill last night? Two possibilities come to mind:

1. One faction decided to no-kill to avoid a lynch-and-RB day for town.
2. One faction hit the BP-vest Inner Circle member.

I think possibility 1 is more likely, but just in case it was the latter, I propose to that scum team that if one of your members is about to be lynched, that member should reveal that Inner Circle member. It is in both scum and town's best interest to get rid of the Inner Circle.

Vote: KageLord

Next time, don't look so obvious when you're trolling for power roles.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Hzres: I like Moi.

Why? The entirety of your comments regarding me are as follows –

But MoI.. SCUMPING#3(post91) Do not like. Toog is old news!

We GET IT Moi! You are better than this. YOu too Friend. you should be ignoreing like ABR told you too.

294 is the Moi i know! as Scum!

Nothing in this selection of quotes is indicates you have a positive impression of my play.

--

I forgot to let my hydra buddy know that I would be V/LA for at least a week and he was unable to keep up as he didn't expect to have to do it on his own. I take full responsibility and am sorry to have to do this, but in order to not further hinder this slot, I am going to replace out.

So your partner was unable to keep up with the thread while most every other single player was? Not buying it.

--

Another note - the second target was supposed to come from the people who had abstained from the original wagon, but was instead decided upon by ABR, who was a proponent of the original wagon.

That makes no sense. Your original theory was that scum are more likely to bandwagon so that the first wagon of the day would be scum-driven. So logically the second target should have come from the wagonners not those who abstained.

It looks more like a Hrezs distraction technique to more you explain it.

[Kise]

Have been pre-prodded O.o, will post

soon

.

on page 14

[camn]

I like your personality, Magna. From previous games. That was not a comment on your play in this game.

There are a number of people I am disinclined to lynch on a tingle Day 1. you are on the list.
So is DGB.. but she forced my hand...

[ThAdmiral]

Another note - the second target was supposed to come from the people who had abstained from the original wagon, but was instead decided upon by ABR, who was a proponent of the original wagon.

That makes no sense. Your original theory was that scum are more likely to bandwagon so that the first wagon of the day would be scum-driven. So logically the second target should have come from the wagonners not those who abstained.

It looks more like a Hrezs distraction technique to more you explain it.

Misunderstanding: read my response as "the second target was supposed to

be decided by

the people who had abstained from the original wagon..."

[Nachomamma8]

ABR, I know that DGB basically asked to be killed yesterday, but I think that we need to look at some of these guys whonjumped on to the death wagon.

Namely, Friend. His post yesterday where he struck DGB was terribad scum posting.

VOTE: Friend

There are thousands of people who jumped on the death wagon. Why does Friend stand out?

@ abr: are you voting me because I didn't do what you told me to?

You're on a power trip.

What makes you believe this?

Well this sucks, I had a response to MoI recent post, and when I went to post it the thread was locked =/. Do you want me to respond to your post MoI, I'll see if I can remember what I said (which probably won't be hard since it is my train of thought), but I just hate retyping/repeating myself.

@BS: I disagree with you on the list of people you posted. You totally ignored those first 4 strikes + the 2 votes that suddenly found their way onto DGB before a case was posted and right after (and I do mean right after like minutes after) of strikes following the first strike. I had said I agreed with ABR meta case. I find it more suspicious of those who tried to over justify their reason to join the wagon.

That in point leads me to this:

Vote: Nachomamma08

You don't actually give a reason for my scumminess in this post.

Vote: KK

It's weird how he and Bunnylover decided to completely drop each other after yesterday.

[Bunnylover]

@Nachomann: Its mainly because you were the second one to strike DGB. You went right on to /strike DGB instead of voting DGB. No one had commented on the case (i.e if its right, wrong, agree, disagree, etc.), and a person who made the comment about Toog, "As for the whole Toogeloo business,

I could care less about useless town wasting their votes

," I would expect you to be more careful with your strike and use the vote method before even /striking as your strike could have become a useless one.
And I haven't dropped KK from my reads, I still believe he is scummy, but no one else was seeing what I was seeing, so I wasn't going to tunnel him until we get into a deathmatch between both of us.

[Baby Spice]

@BS: I disagree with you on the list of people you posted. You totally ignored those first 4 strikes + the 2 votes that suddenly found their way onto DGB before a case was posted and right after (and I do mean right after like minutes after) of strikes following the first strike. I had said I agreed with ABR meta case. I find it more suspicious of those who tried to over justify their reason to join the wagon.

BL, you want to spell out which strikes you mean?

The strikes I ignored were ABR, and nacho. (Well and DGB too) But then the strikes I'm interested in, that I think are really really scumspect were the ones that followed so quickly on the DGB strike, but before she started pointing out the scummy. The ones that fall into the "Cool someone self voted easy lynch" scum mentality. (around #425)

The strikes from Hrez onwards are more normal and I don't think subject to such scummery. (Though no doubt there is some scum in there somewhere)

The votes are a different kettle of fish due to the non-removable nature of the strikes, and I think will be helpful for more subtle cases. (ie: for people other than me)

[Kublai Khan]

Vote: KK

It's weird how he and Bunnylover decided to completely drop each other after yesterday.

Really? What's weird about that?

You haven't commented yet on KageLord. What do you make of his play in this game?

[StrangerCoug]

For some reason, I don't feel as passionate about Albert B. Rampage and Toogeloo being scum. I still think they're a pair if they are, but I agree that the DrippingGoofball wagon is a better place to look.

As for my vote reason, if you're going to go on a suicide mission, then you'd

BETTER

be scum. Her given reason for the self-strike is to prove Albert B. Rampage wrong, and while it worked in the letter of the intent, in practice I'm questioning if it works in the spirit of the intent. She had a clear scum read on Albert B. Rampage and mine on him has weakened.

I'll post new reads Saturday afternoon MDT at the latest, but MagnaofIllusion makes a good point against KageLord.

[Bunnylover]

@BabySpice: I wasn't actually looking at the vote count, I had thought it was ABR, Nacho, KK, and Plum who also striked. Memory failed on that.

[ReaperCharlie]

Kast

replaces

ObliviousDruidMuncher

, effective immediately.

[Hrezs]

@Hrez: you understand that those are 2 very different things, right? Why u said about Moi and what you initially CLAIMED that I said?

Its the same thing to me. You listed people who you said were scum, then you made of list of people you were willing to lynch. When you aren't willing to lynch people that you find scummy I find it more likely that you are scum with them. But I feel that if 2/3 of MoI's team linked themselves like that, he would have a bigger reaction.. but he did attempt to distance himself from you so....... I'm just thinking outloud here. Regardless., you never answered my question.


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