Open 293 - Donner Party Mafia, Take Two (Game Over)

[Twistedspoon]

Particularly of note is TS quoting 4 posts where Friend gave town reads to show that Friend is giving too many town reads, even though 3 of them were for the same player!

even worse then

how can you be 3 times as confident so early in the game that someone's town

once is pushing it that early in the game, but 3 times for the same player is just buddying and accomplishes nothing pro-town

[DeathRowKitty]

I've called lane town 4 times without prompting and only given reasoning one of those times. Lane has been a point of contention for most of the game and there's nothing wrong with repeating a town read if it's relevant.

[Twistedspoon]

it was so early in the game though, before it was even neccessary

[DeathRowKitty]

Then why don't you find it suspicious that I've done it more than he has?

[Twistedspoon]

but you give reasons for your lane reads and such, friend doesn't. It's just him slipping in ways of secretly saying 'I won't lynch you if you don't lynch me'
and actually, you're far from as bad as friend. Friend practically sheeps and hides behind you.

Pretty sure lane is [town]

I think lane is town too.

you were the first one to speak out against the lane wagon. Friend then decided to copy and sheep you without saying why, however you did, and before him

you're not today's lynch. Friend is.

[Magua]

Vote Count 1.9

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Twistedspoon (6): Friend, DeathRowKitty, lane0168, singersigner, chesskid3, tclawren

Friend (4): MagnaofIllusion, Twistedspoon, Romanus, DemonHybrid
lane0168 (1): Xalxe
DeathRowKitty (1): andrew94

V/LA: singersigner (3/27)

Deadline is March 30th, 2011, at 7:24pm EST (site time). A countdown to the deadline is here.

[Xalxe]

Oh, come onnnnnn. You're pretty much triple-counting my Friend-waffling and I definitely (implicitly, at the very least) gave enough reason for my Twistedspoon read.

No, I'm counting the fact that you continuously don't give reads.

@Xalxe

– whose Alt are you?

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@Xalxe and DRK

– Does you think your Mafia Game Theory back and forth serves any scum-hunting purpose?

1) ...my own? Why do you think I am an alt?
2) Meh, not really.

@Xalxe
Respond to my RVS thing. I just realized you never did.

What RVS thing?

[andrew94]

hmm twisted, when you said 'im not sure why i should be today's lynch over the likes of friend and

andrew

' what was that supposed to mean, esp the andrew part, i dont think you have particullary expressed suspision on me.

unvote

[DeathRowKitty]

Oh, come onnnnnn. You're pretty much triple-counting my Friend-waffling and I definitely (implicitly, at the very least) gave enough reason for my Twistedspoon read.

No, I'm counting the fact that you continuously don't give reads.

What? Do you mean don't give reason for reads? If so, no, you mean the fact that I continuously don't give reasons for my reads on one player (yeah, plus a couple others, but you're still triple-counting him).

@Xalxe
Respond to my RVS thing. I just realized you never did.

What RVS thing?

This. Do you still think that was scummy?

[MagnaofIllusion]

1) ...my own? Why do you think I am an alt?

Xalxe is a Scummer who joined on January 20, 2010 at the age of 16.

He is a known alt of somebody

, but who that somebody is remains a mystery to all but the most obersvant.

Are you going to answer the question?

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and I know I changed my vote to friend in >15 mins. If we're going to catch scum, it's no help pointing out the obvious things which players
now they've done. I wouldn't change my vote so quickly and obviously if I didn't have confidence in doing so.

Umm … pointing out the possible scum motivation in posts by players is how you catch scum. You ‘forgot’ to switch you vote originally and then immediately moved it rather than defend why you were voting Andrew.

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So in your mind if you have a really strong townread on someone and people keep attacking them, and they suck at defending themselves

This is making an argument that isn’t relevant to the accusation being made. People (myself included) are pointing out that Friend has ‘Town’ reads on multiple players with minimal reasoning.

[DeathRowKitty]

1) ...my own? Why do you think I am an alt?

Xalxe is a Scummer who joined on January 20, 2010 at the age of 16.

He is a known alt of somebody

, but who that somebody is remains a mystery to all but the most obersvant.

*giggles*

[lane0168]

@MOI... Xalxe answered your question. He is his own Alt. That's what an Alt is as far as I have learned. I think its an alternate account from your own original account. Also what is your scumhunting movtivation for this question?

[lane0168]

I DO wonder why MOI jumped off my popular wagon when he seemed to be pretty sure of my scumminess.

@MOI, do you have less suspicion of me? and if not... why move your vote to a player who seems to not have a lot of suspicion from others. I'm not saying you have to vote on wagons... I'm just saying that of two people you feel are scum, why not vote on the more popular one? It just seems more productive

Note the coy way that he infers it is suspicious for me to move (I DO wonder, I’m just saying that …) but avoids directly stating it.

Noted. However, I didn't avoid anything, stated exactly what i meant by "I DO wonder..." when i wrote the next part. Which you answered.

[MagnaofIllusion]

@MOI... Xalxe answered your question. He is his own Alt. That's what an Alt is as far as I have learned. I think its an alternate account from your own original account. Also what is your scumhunting movtivation for this question?

His own alt? Are you kidding me?

I'm asking who the original account is. It's important for reasons that I'm not going to share until Xalxe answers the question.

[DeathRowKitty]

Uhhh....sorry to intrude on your scumhunting and all, but it's kind of unfair to expect an alt to reveal its main.

I, however, could reveal it for a price

[MagnaofIllusion]

Uhhh....sorry to intrude on your scumhunting and all, but it's kind of unfair to expect an alt to reveal its main.

I, however, could reveal it for a price

Life isn't fair cupcake ...

And by all means don't let me distract your copious scum-hunting DRK ...

[DeathRowKitty]

Do you like cupcakes?

[andrew94]

katsuki?

[DeathRowKitty]

Quiet, scum, I'm asking MoI

[andrew94]

why arent u voting me then dumbass

[DeathRowKitty]

I'm already voting your buddy. Now quiet down so MoI can answer. I'm trying to have a pleasant conversation with him.

[andrew94]

lol vig^^^

[Friend]

Romanus, why is your vote better served on me?

Can someone on my wagon that's not Magna explain the case on me? I'd like to see where you guys are coming from, since all Magna has done is misrep.

[lane0168]

I'm trying to have a pleasant conversation with him.

GOTCHA!! BLATANT buddying, all while bussing his very good and dear scum buddy andrew. these two have it worked down to an art. Nobody likes cupcakes. Unless they are confetti.

[Romanus]

Friend, I find your defense of townie reads to be scummy. I'm not sold on Twisted, I'm sold on you.