Open 290 - Double Day (Game Over)

[silverbullet999]

seeing how he changed my time limit from 3 days to just today... I don't really see the annoyance in it.

[Meransiel]

I don't believe him. Lazy people...

[Stephoscope]

Vote Count

Meransiel - (4) bvoigt, Klazam, Twistedspoon, Furcolow
Nachomamma - (3) DrBokChoy, Apokalyptika, HackerHuck
Furcolow - (2) Meransiel, silverbullet999
Number58 - (2) Nobody Special, ConfidAnon
ConfidAnon - singersigner
Apockalyptika- Hiraki, Number58
Hiraki - Pim


Not Voting: Nachomamma8

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
The current deadline is Monday, April 4th, 8PM EST.

[Nobody Special]

(Hold soon to be tomorrow.)

IT'S TOMORROW NOW.

[Furcolow]

Your expoliation of bvoigts tops seems town, though, so don't feel like I've got heat on you or whatever from this.

Rephrase please. I cant understand this sentence.

he listed two people as scummy
you addressed them a page ago extensively
you doing it actually flowered it out, expanded on it, and explored tangents

he simple said something like A & B are scum, I liked yours as town more and his as scum.

HH seems to be having a good effect on his questioning.

Not really, I'm still hoping for some content from singer...

Well, he's taking notes.
Singer lurking is her scum meta, btw.

Lynching scum in the first cycle was HUGE for the town's ego.

the good kind or bad kind?

confidence or complacency?

in my mini game we lynched scum d1 and go so complacent the rest were town lynches; we thought our advantage was enough

still, lynching scum d0.5 would be fantastic, I just wouldn't want us to get complacent though

The good kind... but it was a game with BenMage as town, so town will not ever get complacent. That guy loves pressure and quicklynches.

As a (sort of) disinterested party here, I just read it that he wanted to update and refine his reads, not that his initial reads were flawed. Really, SB, I think you're making too much out of this.

Interested in how those new reads will look like, though.
By the way, reinforced my pro-town reads on silver.

Because, don't know, I am a popular lynch, I could get killed, if I get killed, the town has 1 vote less, true?

How can we know... only you can know...

Not exactly easy to motivate the uses of phrasings. Seriously, the second best way that crossed my mind was to show a game where I was town and used the same phrasing. So yeah, not many good ideas. More like answering a question to have it answered, rather than providing a real answer, that which, in this case, may not even exist.

Way to see-saw and have a weak meta defense.

Meransiel and DrBokchoy.

both seem like easy lynches... popular.
why these two?

Meransiel- He hasn't done anything overly scummy, but you can ISO me to find some little things I don't like; for example, this post:

Just surprised is all. I mean, everybody needs pressure, if a wagon is already half-started, why abandon it and go for someone new?

Not a bad strategy, no, just unexpected.

Put any questions, point to anything I've said and done that looked scummy, and I'll gladly answer.

DrBokchoy- It seems like much of his content is hypocritically asking Nacho to provide content. Here is his second post of the game:

nacho, wanna add some content rather that just post that stuff over and over again.

that doesn't seem like a townie reaction from DrBokChoy to you?
I agree on Meransiel, also dislike their vote on me since I'm so suspicious of them

Players who have really died:
Nacho,
sing (though obviously now V/LA)
Confid
Number58?
Pim

Above players... let's undie and post some yes?

(Especially you nacho, I see you lurking and this isn't like you from previous games)

P-Edit

Disregard Nacho, though i'm holding soon to be within the next 3 days...

I like this post from Silver
his last 2 posts have been really awesome
I am not scum distancing and then buddying from him
I am simply addressing changes in gameflow, general changes.
This is not some sort of scum disclaimer
it is heartfelt

[Meransiel]

Voted you before you started suspecting me, so no, that's not why I have my vote on you.

Also,

I am not scum distancing and then buddying from him

...wasn't that defense kind of unneeded?

[bvoigt]

DrBokchoy- It seems like much of his content is hypocritically asking Nacho to provide content. Here is his second post of the game:

nacho, wanna add some content rather that just post that stuff over and over again.

that doesn't seem like a townie reaction from DrBokChoy to you?

No, why?

[Furcolow]

Voted you before you started suspecting me, so no, that's not why I have my vote on you.

Also,

I am not scum distancing and then buddying from him

...wasn't that defense kind of unneeded?

If you want to count you sheeping someone elses point in the RVS as a serious vote
The fact you still have your vote on me is a joke, considering how obviously town I am

DrBokchoy- It seems like much of his content is hypocritically asking Nacho to provide content. Here is his second post of the game:

nacho, wanna add some content rather that just post that stuff over and over again.

that doesn't seem like a townie reaction from DrBokChoy to you?

No, why?

I disagree with you. There are only 3 scum, and I read him as a dumb townie, though I could be wrong.

[Meransiel]

considering how obviously town I am

Am I the only one having a problem with that wording? Seriously.

[Number58]

So, #58: Voting someone who you and quite a few others feel to be town is 'scum trying to get a very easy lynch out of the early game'? Yeah, sorry, just because you see them as town doesn't mean they are.

Is there an easier target than the player who is doing nothing but posting in riddles? Not really, this is compounded by the fact that no one really takes flack over policy lynches. The fact that you are so fixated on this, while you dont really pressure any of your other reads is a scum tell.

considering how obviously town I am

Am I the only one having a problem with that wording? Seriously.

Yes. Furcolow is also probably town and you should persue other suspects.

[Klazam]

Fur- you mean explanation not exploitation, then? It's clear now. Thanks.

[silverbullet999]

Nacho.....


Politicians aren't cool...

[Nobody Special]

(Hold soon to be tomorrow.)

IT'S TOMORROW NOW.

NOW IT'S THE DAY

AFTER

TOMORROW.

I swear, this game.

[silverbullet999]

Nacho died again with a false promise...
confid... where are you...
and pim... is getting replaced?

I'm really not digging nacho's false promise D:<

[Apokalyptika]

Hey Furc, why's you like silver's last post so much? It's just a list of inactive players, seems pretty null to me. Out of all silver's posts, it seems baffling that you'd fixate on this one...an opportunity to get back into his good graces now that he's so townie looking?

FoS: Furc

[Furcolow]

Fur- you mean explanation not exploitation, then? It's clear now. Thanks.

expoliation.
i guess i mixed exfoliation and explanation
a flowering out of an explanation into tangents from something small (naming 2 fos) into something larger (expanding on them in your next posts which he[bvoigt, here] was unable to do)

[Furcolow]

Hey Furc, why's you like silver's last post so much? It's just a list of inactive players, seems pretty null to me. Out of all silver's posts, it seems baffling that you'd fixate on this one...an opportunity to get back into his good graces now that he's so townie looking?

FoS: Furc

"why's" i like his post?
i dunno man, why's don't you like take an English class?
His list has exceeded your town play; you have done nothing.

He also posted a wall, and even if I didn't read it, that feels town.
I am going to vote you for not having the balls to vote
All townies have are their vote, and all we have are townies, so someone who is afraid to vote needs to go

unvote: Meransiel
vote: Apokalyptika

It's weird seeking a policy lynch, but we have one more wagon, and there is at least over a 21% chance you will flip scum by simple game design, but that ~80% you won't I don't give a flying fuck about because your play is fucking terrible.

[ConfidAnon]

Well, my top two suspects are Confid and Nacho, but Confid hasn't been here since the 20th and we know nacho's gone. They've both posted elsewhere as recently as yesterday, so they're still lurking about somewhere.

Mod: can you prod Confid?

Confid, if/when you come back: what's your opinion on Nacho's gambit? Scum or town?

Klazam made a good point about Meransiel's possible scumslip, but I'm starting to get a feeling that his tells are more inexperience-based than anything else.

Sorry - with limited time, I've been forced to post minimally - I haven't been having much time to post in multiple games at a time, and I've kind of been putting off using that time on this one. =P

The gambit means nothing until he explains what he learned from it. As iirc I pointed out earlier, a gambit in and of itself means nothing. How the information produced from it is used is much more of a tell towards alignment.

I don't have much more to add at this point - I'm still satisfied with my Number 58 case. Any thoughts on that from everyone else?

[bvoigt]

I'm thinking Nacho is town here. His play doesn't seem much like it did in Outdoorsmen Mafia 2. I still want some content, though.

[Nobody Special]

Well, in about 19 hours, Nacho will be in prodding range, so.

[Twistedspoon]

Well, in about 19 hours, Nacho will be in prodding range, so.

I've seen him post in the open game queue today

If he doesn't come and post his conclusions to his gambit soon then questions shall be asked

[silverbullet999]

Ok it's been nearly 3 days which was the limit I set...

[Nobody Special]

(Hold soon to be tomorrow.)

IT'S TOMORROW NOW.

NOW IT'S THE DAY

AFTER

TOMORROW.

I swear, this game.

Alright.

unvote

Vote: Nachomamma

[Nachomamma8]

Shush NS.
Shush your little mouth.

[Nobody Special]

THIS IS WHY WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS.