Open 293 - Donner Party Mafia, Take Two (Game Over)

[andrew94]

pls stfu twisted, it is a burden having you as a vig, i suggest the roleblocker roleblock twisted.

and yes, you can vig me, if only to rid me of your dumbassness

[Twistedspoon]

pls stfu twisted

and what have I done now aside from explain everything?

i suggest the roleblocker roleblock twisted.

and what do the town think of this

and yes, you can vig me,

This too

[andrew94]

because your logic is crap and anti town and the only thing stopping your death is your claim

also you gonna die night 1 since there aint any doctors. good luck

[DemonHybrid]

It is my general belief that townies are more concerned with hunting scum rather than defending townies, but that might be my own personal belief. I for one do no wish to put my neck on the line for anyone. Defending is akin to buddying. Also, as I stated, it is not necessarily that you do as much as how you do it. I think Friend is defending scummily.

Friend, I find your defense of townie reads to be scummy. I'm not sold on Twisted, I'm sold on you.

I agree with this, but I don't think that defending in the first place completely denotes scum behavior. The amount does have a lot to do with it, and he has been doing it a lot.



There's been a lot of talk about alts. Useless information.

I'm trying to have a pleasant conversation with him.

GOTCHA!! BLATANT buddying, all while bussing his very good and dear scum buddy andrew. these two have it worked down to an art. Nobody likes cupcakes. Unless they are confetti.

MoI is obviously the powerhouse in the logic department as far as this game goes. It's interesting to see the interactions between MoI and other people of the game, but I don't think we can come to that sort of conclusion at this point in the game. It's just too convenient to agree with MoI for everyone, town and scum alike.

the logic is ridiculous
defending townread is scumscumscumlololololol

and you're sorta defending friend now

anyways, as often, as early and when unbalanced by an equal amount of scumreads.
That's the scummy part

Friend is today's lynch

Sort of a catch-22, don't you think, TS? I don't think he was implying that at all.

Damn it.

Unvote

If TS isn't vig, real vig shoots him at night. If he doesn't die, he's sk and you shoot him again.

Leaving for a little while. I'll vote when I come back.

Do you think TS would pull something like that? Furthermore, if you think that he is lying scum, to you, is he rolefishing or saving his own ass?

eh, I'll just nightvig you then; you're flailing

Do you believe that frustration in the form of typing is indicative of flailing, or is it his argument?

[Twistedspoon]

because your logic is crap and anti town

...
coming from you that is truly cold

also you gonna die night 1 since there aint any doctors.

eh

better than letting a lynch happen when i know a townie will die (myself). At least this way we might get scum with the lynch and vig kill

[Twistedspoon]

Do you believe that frustration in the form of typing is indicative of flailing, or is it his argument?

I guess his typing, but that's understandable from his PoV

i don't think I'll be vig'ing Tclaw

[DeathRowKitty]

EVERYONE LEAVE TWISTED ALONE. IF HE IS NOT THE VIG, HE WILL BE KILLED AT NIGHT. IF HE IS THE VIG, HE WILL PROBABLY BE KILLED AT NIGHT ANYWAY. WE ARE NOT LYNCHING HIM. PLEASE AND THANK YOU.

Do you think TS would pull something like that? Furthermore, if you think that he is lying scum, to you, is he rolefishing or saving his own ass?

Well, scum at L-1 really have no reason not to claim a power role (unless they expect everyone to miraculously unvote after a vanilla claim)...although claiming RB would be the smarter move, considering vig doesn't have to claim to kill someone fakeclaiming. So to answer your question, if Twisted is scum, he was probably hoping to out a power role and survive just a little longer.

Also, Twisted should decide who he's vigging before the end of the day. If he decides to vig someone and he dies but his target doesn't, we'll know who the sk is.

[Twistedspoon]

LIGHTBULB

Also, Twisted should decide who he's vigging before the end of the day. If he decides to vig someone and he dies but his target doesn't, we'll know who the sk is.

why don't town vote on who I vig so that my claim isn't in vain?

[chesskid3]

I'm sorry, asking a question about setup indicates I'm more likely to be sk or mafia how the fuck exactly?
like I feel like if I were vig/mafia/sk I'd ask that through a pm you dunce.

Unvote

Vote: Romanus

[Twistedspoon]

nonono

you're supposed to vote friend

Romanus is almost definitely townie in my eyes since he didn't hammer me (and I'm town as you now know)

[chesskid3]

SO THE 7 PEOPLE WHO WERE OFF YOUR WAGON AND DIDNT HAMMER YOU
ARE ALL TOWN?

[chesskid3]

USE YOUR HEAD

[Twistedspoon]

SO THE 7 PEOPLE WHO WERE OFF YOUR WAGON AND DIDNT HAMMER YOU
ARE ALL TOWN?

you mean the 6

remember there are only 12 players. 12-6
maths and such

anyways, one of them is me, and the rest are fair town reads of mine such as DH, MOI and Romanus
so it's possible

anyways, I think scum are more likely to have been on my wagon

basically, If i were him and scum I would have hammered since there's so many reasons why hammering me is justifiable

anyways, If that didn't make sense then my excuse is that It's 23:30 and rather late. I should really be in bed :s

[Twistedspoon]

SO THE 6 PEOPLE WHO WERE OFF YOUR WAGON AND DIDNT HAMMER YOU

FTFY
"USE YOUR HEAD" as you would say

[chesskid3]

SCUM DONT FRICKING AUTOHAMMER PEOPLE WHO ARE AT L-1
IT'S A HORRIBLE SURVIVAL STRATEGY
SIDJFOSDFJIDOJDSOFIJSODFJ

[chesskid3]

NOBODY HAMMERED YOU
THAT DOESNT MAKE THEM TOWN
2 SCUM + SK
THERES GOING TO BE AT LEAST 1 SCUM OFF ANY WAGON
ISDJFOJSDIOFDSFJSOFJISFOSJDIFODSFJOFS

[Twistedspoon]

SCUM DONT FRICKING AUTOHAMMER PEOPLE WHO ARE AT L-1

they could easily explain it. There are many reasons to hammer me, and someone has to do it

anyways, you'll see should Romanus flip town

[chesskid3]

IF THEIR PLAY WAS LIKE TREATING YOU AS TOWN
IT'S REALLLLLLLLLLY HARD TO EXPLAIN AWAY A 180 DEGREE HAMMER
TRUST ME
SCUM DONT AUTOHAMMER PEOPLE WHO ARE L-1
THEY TRY TO GET ANOTHER SAP TO DO IT

[Twistedspoon]

alright I'll trust you

I really don't have any more to say on the subject of Romanus

but I still think friend...

[chesskid3]

I mean
friend flip = good for information
but friend = good player so ._>

[lane0168]

A planned bus for day 1 for a 2 player mafia team in a game with an SK with NK-immunity would be really stupid.

If andrew and I were actually buddies and I went and intentionally got him lynched day 1, it would make me look town, which would just make the serial killer want to kill me.

I also think you're not looking at quite the right things in andrew's play. Unfortunately, I'm pretty terrible at explaining things like that, so meh.

Maybe I'm not looking at the right things. I don't know what else to look at.

I tried to explain this. I don't think you WOULD intentionally get him lynched. That is why i said your threats seemed quite

empty

. There was no real push to get andrew lynched by you, only... look at how he played before. there was no real threat to andrew from you anywhere. You would have known people wouldnt follow your wagon. If my hypotheticals were hypothetically true

[lane0168]

SO... this is what drk says... vig has no reason not to follow this plan right? If ts isn't vig, vig shoot him, if he doesnt die, he's SK, shoot him again. So the twisted problem is solved. Is this correct? Cause otherwise he's vig. And he'll probably die tonight. Seems like pretty sound logic. Does anyone see logic in NOT unvoting for twisted? I do not.

unvote

[lane0168]

Sorry for multiple posts, but is it normal for town to get real worked up when L-1? i know i would have been freaking out if i was on L-1 LONG before twisted ever did. And he never really got worked up at all. I would be pissed off for the wrong that was being committed against me. I also feel that if i was L-1 as scum, it would be a lot harder to fake what i was feeling and try to act too worked up. I don't know how to take twisted's calm and collectiveness. But all well, we figured it out.

[chesskid3]

we're not lynching him
risk v reward waaaaaaaaaay too high

[andrew94]

if im the roleblocker, im just gonna rb twistedspoon to fuck with everyone's heads. good day