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Post Post #2375 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:01 am

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LynchMePls wrote:
Magua wrote:Margery Tyrell's mother poisons Joff.
Quote? Pretty sure it's her GRANDMOTHER, which is Olenna Tyrell.
Mother, grandmother, whatever.

Shadow is town.
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Post Post #2376 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 7:34 am

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Not so sure about that.


I'm Jaime Lannister, the friendly knight. Each night I may select a player, the mod will pm that player that my
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N1 target, greyice decided to target DGB.
N2, I was still rereading the game, but had a gut town read on Shadow from what I had read of day 1, I selected shadow.
N3, I realized it was retarded of me not to use my power on the dude with flipping governor status, and targetted Benmage.

Things to draw from this:
1. DGB doesn't actually know I'm town. She just knows my name is Jaime Lannister. On the wiki it says that Jaime betrayed the king and then had to get pardoned for it, so he could very well have either alignment since the mod has reserved the right to spit on the canon. If DGB's mason claim can be considered anything but airtight then I see reason for some suspicion of DGB, my impression is that she failed to realize that the pm doesn't confirm me town because she knew that day 0.
2. Shadow did not claim to have been visited by the friendly knight. We have a roleblocker, the roleblocker said he didn't target me. I have to wonder why shadow did not report getting a pm saying that my name is Jaime Lannister. It's possible he's immune to night actions, is a bus driver, or there is a busdriver. Whatever it is it's fishy.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2377 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:03 am

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I did not, in fact get a pm night 2. Interesting.
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Post Post #2378 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:04 am

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popsofctown wrote:1. DGB doesn't actually know I'm town. She just knows my name is Jaime Lannister.
Indeed. I figured that "Lannister" was good enough.
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Post Post #2379 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:18 am

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So the only thing we're missing is danakillsu's name claim.
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Post Post #2380 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:35 am

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The mod decided to leave me in the dark regarding your question, LMP.
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Post Post #2381 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:36 am

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Jaime as Friendly Neighbor is disappointing. :/
But I expected one of him/Cersei to be a fakeclaim, and since Cersei isn't here its obv. her. Probably for Magna. LOL
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Post Post #2382 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:01 pm

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Well.

I wasn't roleblocked by a townie N2, we've massclaimed.
I doubt scum roleblock greyICE after his day 1 play. That is not a guy trying to duck under the spotlight and investigate/protect players.
Scum busdriving all actions that would happen to shadow to a living player would still create a report from night 2.
Scum busdriving all actions that would happen to shadow to a player who died, or died soon I suppose, would create a report, but implies Shadow is scum.
Shadow having some sort of immunity to night actions implies Shadow is scum.

I don't see a logical course of action aside from
Vote:Shadow
. I can't think of a town based role interaction that would cause this pm to go missing.
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2383 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:34 pm

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Pops, Shadow is town. This isn't based on setup, this is just recognizing town-play when I see it.

Going by the information that we have, I'm betting that either you or Shadow were jailkept by Magna N2. DGB did announce it'd been modconfirmed to her that you were town, so I can easily see a jailkeeping thrown in your direction N2.
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Post Post #2384 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 2:42 pm

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Also, I just don't see the scumvantage for him sitting on that info considering DGB was already talking in thread about about you being confirmed. If I'd been scum in Shadow's spot and gotten that PM I totally would have been all over the 'awesome secret info - pops is town, I am awesome' train. Who wouldn't?
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Post Post #2385 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:09 pm

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I don't see how me not getting your wave automatically implies I'm scum either. I don't doubt you're who you are or think you're scum, I simply
didn't get a PM
. Why would I lie about that? What scum motivation is there?
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Post Post #2386 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:25 pm

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Magua wrote:Pops, Shadow is town. This isn't based on setup, this is just recognizing town-play when I see it.
Seconded.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

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Post Post #2387 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:49 pm

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Shadow1psc wrote:I don't see how me not getting your wave automatically implies I'm scum either. I don't doubt you're who you are or think you're scum, I simply
didn't get a PM
. Why would I lie about that? What scum motivation is there?
Later in this thread this thought will be brought up as 'Shadow's idea' I will continue to be ignored for all contributions. :wink:
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Post Post #2388 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 3:55 pm

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Magua wrote:Pops, Shadow is town. This isn't based on setup, this is just recognizing town-play when I see it.

Going by the information that we have, I'm betting that either you or Shadow were jailkept by Magna N2. DGB did announce it'd been modconfirmed to her that you were town, so I can easily see a jailkeeping thrown in your direction N2.
derp

Forgot there was a jailkeeper
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"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #2389 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:02 pm

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popsofctown wrote: I can't think of a town based role interaction that would cause this pm to go missing.
THINK.


In what world could there be scum motivation for Shadow to hide him getting this info from you????

Seriously...Try putting yourself in the persons shoes as scum. Would you do that as scum?? If the answer seems like: "FUCK NO thats illogical as shit"...he's probably not doing it.
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Post Post #2390 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:13 pm

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MOD can you prod Dana


And tell him to claim?
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Post Post #2391 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:16 pm

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DAY 4 VOTECOUNT 5

Setael (3) Benmage, Zdenek, Magua

Hasdgfas (1) Andrius
Shadow1psc (1) popsofctown



Not voting (11) Shadow1psc, Twilight Sparkle, Setael, DrippingGoofball, Hasdgfas, Danakillsu,Locke Lamora, Nexus, LynchMePls, Bunnylover, THor665

*With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch.
*Deadline is here
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Post Post #2392 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:18 pm

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LynchMePls wrote:
Benmage wrote:I thought that dunce drunk of a Knight poisoned joff and helped sansa escape.
Whenever Littlefinger is involved, there are layers within layers. It is made pretty clear that Olenna was working with Littlefinger. She is the one that gave Sansa the hair net and she "straightened" it at the wedding. Later Sansa realizes one of the crystals was missing, and Petyr tells her that the crystals were actually poison. Thus Lady Olenna is the one who put the poison in the cup. Pretty sure it's all discussed end of ASOS or during Alyane's chapters in AFFC.
Well.. littlefinger Flipped TOWN.. Discussion. OVA.
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You left yourself out, but this should be the order:
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Zdenek
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THOR
You said you're tired of the lackwits... Well, we aren't going anywhere and there's a lot of us. So do you want to be the one to NOM Setael, and have us lynch you..?
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Post Post #2393 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:25 pm

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Thor665 wrote:
Shadow1psc wrote:I don't see how me not getting your wave automatically implies I'm scum either. I don't doubt you're who you are or think you're scum, I simply
didn't get a PM
. Why would I lie about that? What scum motivation is there?
Later in this thread this thought will be brought up as 'Shadow's idea' I will continue to be ignored for all contributions. :wink:
Benmage's idea.
Just because you wrote it first means nothing. I entered the thought into the collective conscious awhile ago..but wasn't at a computer.
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Post Post #2394 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 4:52 pm

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Benmage wrote:
THOR
You said you're tired of the lackwits... Well, we aren't going anywhere and there's a lot of us. So do you want to be the one to NOM Setael, and have us lynch you..?
And the alternative is that you lynch Setael and he noms me...I don't really see the value in much choosing between.

Personally I'd rather lynch two other people and not me as that will be a greater chance to actually hit scum if you really want my opinion and I'd probably go for TS and LMP personally. But if it's just the choice above...::shrug:: I guess I'd prefer lynch me as 100% that means I'd nom whoever else was picked because I'm def town and it vaguely saves us a lynch if Setael isn't.
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Post Post #2395 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 8:37 pm

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If there is not at least two scum in (Thor, Setael, danakillsu, Twilight Sparkle), I will eat my hat. Benmage, let's do this.
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Post Post #2396 (ISO) » Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:30 pm

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Is it me, or has this game become progressively more uninteresting? I guess that's what happens when people agree they're just going to lynch from a list. Might as well get on with it.

Vote: Setael
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Post Post #2397 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:28 am

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unvote, vote setael


it is boring. cow, dance.
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Post Post #2398 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:59 am

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Benmage wrote:You left yourself out, but this should be the order:
Benmage
DrippingGoofball
Andrius
Bunnylover
popsofctown
Nexus
Hasdgfas
Locke Lamora
Danakillsu
Shadow1psc
Magua
LMP
Twilight Sparkle
Zdenek
Thor665
Setael
I don't put myself on my lists. Fair enough.

Unvote
Vote: Setael
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Post Post #2399 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:08 am

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vote: Setael
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