Open 293 - Donner Party Mafia, Take Two (Game Over)

[andrew94]

vote friends

meh fucking deadline lynches

[DeathRowKitty]

Got caught up with marathon games and kind of neglected most of my regular games. Will get caught up later today.

[singersigner]

Ooooooooooh harro deadline.

k. I'll be checking in tomorrow to hammer if I need to, but I'd like the opportunity to get a catch-up post up before nightfall if I can. I'll be around in no later than 24 hours (<3 the countdown).

[Friend]

I'm here. Am I getting lynched?

[Friend]

Meh whatever. This happens far too often because I'm just not good at putting cases into words. I'm a VT but it won't matter too much.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Big catch-up incoming … I wasn’t prodded but have been very busy the last 48 hours and have had no time to post

Deadline is almost here. The following players are absolutely lurking / active lurking …. there is scum hiding in this group somewhere –

Friend (we will know soon enough)
Singersinger
Romanus
Xalxe

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Twisted’s claim (which was coming anyway) resolves any questions about how to handle things. With no protective roles he’s dead tonight if he’s the Town Vig most likely.

@Twisted

– You dayvig gambit was quite stupid given the set-up is open. No-one was going to ‘fall’ for it. Also for the record – I agree with those questioning your late crumbing. Valid crumbs have no reason to be posted so late. In fact the only time I’ve seen late crumbs like that it was coming from a scum fake-claiming Cop.

why don't town vote on who I vig so that my claim isn't in vain?

Gah. That never works out well. Announce your target if you want but the shot is yours and you are going to take responsibility for it (assuming you aren’t eaten).

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Lane’s 328

with multiple instances of “I’m not good at this game” and similar statements sets my hairs on end.

GOTCHA!! BLATANT buddying, all while bussing his very good and dear scum buddy andrew. these two have it worked down to an art. Nobody likes cupcakes. Unless they are confetti.

Please elaborate – are you calling DRK scum with Andrew here? If so why didn’t you vote for either on in this post? Especially in light of 328 where you elaborate on that reasoning. You don’t even vote for either one when you unvoted Twisted.

Lane’s 397

screams scum hedging.

And then we have

413

where you ignore your ‘called’ scum-reads and vote for Chesskid to be spiteful.

Lane is scum. Unfortuately too many of you refuse to see that.

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also lolhammering town is not a good thing as scum. Lot of questions to answer the next day.

Except Twisted has been sitting at L-1 for long enough that someone who hammered him then wasn’t likely to catch flack for it.

NOBODY HAMMERED YOU
THAT DOESNT MAKE THEM TOWN
2 SCUM + SK

If Twisted is Town who do you think was mostly likely scum on his wagon? You’ve stated who you think is off his wagon is scum (Romanus).

However the massive lurking when a Romanus wagon was suggested along with EVERYONE IGNORING IT is kinda telling in my eyes.

Um whut? Sorry, but that makes no sense.

If Romanus is Goon then only 1 player has any reason to ignore your call.
If Romanus is SK then no other player has any reason to ignore it.

The logical conclusion is that everyone ignored your call because it really wasn’t that compelling.

If anyone looks scummy based on your push it is Tclaw, IMO, who has stated he’ll jump on if there is momentum but is avoiding it otherwise. Opprotunisim.

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spls stfu twisted, it is a burden having you as a vig, i suggest the roleblocker roleblock twisted.

I can’t decide if this is scummy or just stupid. Rolebocking Twisted is fail on all three counts.

1. If he’s the Vig it stops a Town PR.
2. If he’s a Goon his partner can send in the kill and no harm is done.
3. If he’s the SK it fails on him the first time.

Even if he is Roleblocked and a kill ends up missing it doesn’t absolutely confirm him as the Vig since the Vig shot could have hit the SK.

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How can you not know who to suspect/vote for at this point in time?

Because he is careful scum who is playing the “I’M NEW” card. For Gods sake he's ignoring his own cases.

[Magua]

Xalxe has been prodded.

[Twistedspoon]

VOTE: Xalxe

friend's lack of flailing doesn't indicate scum

and Xalxe is purposefully not posting in this topic
I prefer his lynch

[lane0168]

unvote

@moi what i said about drk and andrew was kind of just a thought, and as i stated, i wanted to see what other people thought? what is so wrong about this?

Also, i'm still playing the new card? i don't remember that part either. when did i continue to play the new card?

[lane0168]

i don't see the scummy playin someone that IS IN FACT NEW, wanting clarification or wanting the get the thoughts of other people who have played with drk and andrew. Or wanting clarification for anything at all. I'm not playing this i'm new bull. i'm playing this, i actually dont know everything about this game and there are plenty of things and someone who is not experienced at playing mafia online might not catch on to and sometimes they might ACTUALLYL need some clarification from someone without it being CONSTRUED as playing the i'm new card.

I'm not forced to vote on anyone with the first sign of suspicion. I thought it was acceptable to ask questions and get more information before you make a hasty vote. Is that not acceptable anymore?

[Xalxe]

1) ...my own? Why do you think I am an alt?

Xalxe is a Scummer who joined on January 20, 2010 at the age of 16.

He is a known alt of somebody

, but who that somebody is remains a mystery to all but the most obersvant.

Are you going to answer the question?

+5 for research. No, I won't.

Also what is your scumhunting movtivation for this question?

Also relevant

It's important for reasons that I'm not going to share until Xalxe answers the question.

The original account is inactive, mmkay? This is a discussion that I'm not going to have ITT.

Alright... one of a few original thoughts I am able to form in mafia... but after thinking about it a little more... let me know if anyone can see what i see? Or if you know them better and the game better, tell me I'm an idiot.

Andrew and DRK have been bickering like a married couple for the last few pages. After the redacted, i thought they just hated each other. After this other stupid one, I feel like they are putting on a cute little show for us. Would it be completely out of line for me to suggest that andrew and drk are scum buddies? trying to hard to subtly distance eachother? Because after thought about this more i went and looked at andrews games as drk suggested. what i find is that he was a better scum hunter in the beginning when he was scum AND when he was town, when we compare it to this game. What i suspect is that drk knew this and knew that people would not find a lot of weight in his argument to go look at andrews games and you will see. I imagine most people wouldnt take the time, and just take drk's word for it, but i took the time and i dont see where drk was going for it. To me it was an

empty

attack on andrew. not too mention he unvoted andrew for andrew's "buddy" twisted. And merely said twisted seems like an acceptable wagon after all that hoopala about andrew. I really feel its a nice little show they are putting on for us.

I think xalxe said something about drk not giving reads on his suspects. Maybe thats because he is scum and doesnt have reads.

can i get some response from some professionals?

Despite the slim :goodposting: here, there is so much Appeal to Authority and Emotion here it hurts.

oh twisted, you're totally pro

BUDDYING

Please, I'm BEGGING for a lynch here.

One of Romanus and Twisted is definitely scum.

I'm also down with a Romanus wagon, since that reply to friend just strikes me as something scum would be so much more likely to do

Romanus? Why?

the logic is ridiculous
defending townread is scumscumscumlololololol

WTFUCK? I'd defend a lynch on MoI, because I think he's town. Why would that make me scum unless MoI was?

[note that while MoI is an example here, I do believe he is town]

you absolute fools

I am the vig

but no, you had to ruin my plan to trap scum

I wouldn't have set up that trap if I wasn't sure he wasn't vig

what sort of fool do you take me for >_>

but hey, you've ruined the plan now, so i might as well claim; I'm on L-1 anyways

I'v breadcrumbed twice

And the fact that you forgot to change your vote in the post...

V

ery well pointed out

i

honestly though I had done, my post makes no sense without it

g

enerally, I don't read my posts after making them, so didn't notice until MOI pointed it out.

i

think freind is rather scummy

l

ane has only played better since I voted for her

a

nd I know I changed my vote to friend in >15 mins. If we're going to catch scum, it's no help pointing out the obvious things which players

n

ow they've done. I wouldn't change my vote so quickly and obviously if I didn't have confidence in doing so.

e

h. apart from the blatantly obvious and my 'miraculously obvious' topic read, I see no reason why I should be today's lynch over the likes of Friend and Andrew

lol vig^^^

I

don't see why you think Drk is vig :/

A

nd why ask if he likes cupcakes anyways?

M

oreover, if Xalxe is an alt, he should reveal his host

And after that you guys mess up my plan to catch scum >_>

whatever; I'm vig'ing Chess tonight anyways unless friend somehow lives

you can blame yourselves,

assuming I'm stupid enough to out our vig

. Even I'm not that daft, and now you've let a possible scum slip away

Actually, I might vig Tclawren for ignoring the part where I refuted his reasoning for his vote on me and then just popping in to point out how stupid he thinks I am

honestly, town needs to notice breadcrumbs and stop assuming things >_>

YAY WE CAN LYNCH LANE NOW!

erm.
firstly, the supposed 'breadcrumbs' are made after you were at L1 for ages? in fact, they were made yesterday. so yea, anyone can do that.
i am even do this now
violet
indigo
green

am i the vig? i dont think so
td:dr: no cc'ing.

Of course. Which is why, after my catchup post, I will check TS's posts and see if he could have crumbed any other roles elsewhere.

if im the roleblocker, im just gonna rb twistedspoon to fuck with everyone's heads. good day

If you actually do this, you're blacklisted.

And autolynched.

i dont want to be unacceptable in chess's eyes

HOLY

FUCKING

SHIT

LYNCH
LYNCH
LYNCH

Oh, and BTW, I have a personal rule not to post on marathon day/weekend, so yeah. I totally forgot that deadline was so close (and yes, I brought it up earlier, yeah, I forgot).

I will now go check twisted's posts!

[DemonHybrid]

Ooooooooooh harro deadline.

k. I'll be checking in tomorrow to hammer if I need to, but I'd like the opportunity to get a catch-up post up before nightfall if I can. I'll be around in no later than 24 hours (<3 the countdown).

Can I have a full list of your reads, please?

[Xalxe]

Okay, no other crumbs from twisted. More lane votes plz.

[chesskid3]

Xalxe, the quote of mine was me making fun of Twisted, not me believing that defending townreads is scummy.

[Xalxe]

Xalxe, the quote of mine was me making fun of Twisted, not me believing that defending townreads is scummy.

...whoops.

Point retracted.

[Romanus]

I'm still on Friend. That hasn't changed.

[Magua]

Vote Count 1.13

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Friend (5): MagnaofIllusion, Romanus, DemonHybrid, chesskid3, andrew94

Twistedspoon (2): Friend, singersigner
lane0168 (1): Xalxe
andrew94 (1): tclawren
Xalxe (1): Twistedspoon

Not voting (2): DeathRowKitty, lane0168

Deadline is March 30th, 2011, at 7:24pm EST (site time). A countdown to the deadline is here.

Deadline is in less than 28 hours.

[lane0168]

andrew and drk were the only two not voting on the last vote count. Andrew was the next to vote cause of the deadline. Afraid to be the hammer i think.

vote andrew

prepost edit... right before that one ^^

[Twistedspoon]

I'm not interested in a lane lynch
and friend doesn't seem that appealing anymore :/

ah well
still, if he's scum it's worth it

[chesskid3]

lane lynch is far superior to friend lynch though
can we get a last minute lane wagon?

unvote

Vote: lane

[Xalxe]

lane lynch is far superior to friend lynch though
can we get a last minute lane wagon?

unvote

Vote: lane

:goodposting: for now. There should really be more lane votes.

[Twistedspoon]

if lane flips town that casts suspicion on certain players...

[Xalxe]

if lane flips town that casts suspicion on certain players...

Well, the same can be said for any player really. Thanks for sharing though.

[Twistedspoon]

still

i think friend and lane may flip town

and I object to any unnecessary pre-deadline pressure.
If lane is either the Roleblocker or dietician, we don't want her to claim too. 2 PR reveals this early helps no-one

[DemonHybrid]

Why is Friend STILL on twistedspoon?