Open 293 - Donner Party Mafia, Take Two (Game Over)

[chesskid3]

AN UNVOTE REQUIRED/ANOTEHR VOTE ON LANE REWUIRED

[andrew94]

unvote vote lane

[Twistedspoon]

I am the Dietitian.

If you're the dietician you could at least spell it right

[Xalxe]

I am the Dietitian.

If you're the dietician you could at least spell it right

That's how Firefox corrected it, now STFU and vote lane pls.

[Twistedspoon]

UNVOTE: xalxe

VOTE: singersinger

for not unvoting on the claimed vig

[lane0168]

unvote

[lane0168]

that was dumb, fact is i dont believe xalxe. EBWOP

vote:xalxe

[singersigner]

UNVOTE: xalxe

VOTE: singersinger

for not unvoting on the claimed vig

If you claimed vig after page 14, then I don't understand your concern especially since I'm not the only one voting you and the one who is was around to see your claim.

I would've voted Xalxe as of that moment, but I didn't with 4 more pages to catch up on, and now it's clearly not going to help.

MoI, I've catching up in this game/my other games, make of that what you will regarding pointing out the no-lynch thing. Though it's interesting that you point it out now after I've already retracted my statement of fear of a no-lynch. What's the point in questioning it after I've addressed it?
Re: DH's statement; I

did

point out where I thought it was suspect that he was asking for himself as opposed to for the town, especially since, as you say, you're curious as well.
Re: My feelings that Lane is town. I interpret his posting as town in the same way you might interpret anyone else as town. I see the struggling frustration of newb town as opposed the flailing frustration of "caught" scum. Feel free to disagree as I see you already have.

Re: Lane wagon. I'm not joining it (since apparently now I don't have to, nanny nanny, boo boo). I feel that he's town along with MoI, Twistedspoon (apparently ), Xalxe (apparently ), and Chesskid. I feel like DH is either scum or the SK, and Romanus for scum. My other reads are either inconsistent, or incomplete.

Preview Edit: Laney boy...seriously...wtf...

[tclawren]

OK THAT WAS REALLY SCUMMY LANE. YOU JUST TRIED TO KILL A CLAIMED PR. >.<
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Lane

[Twistedspoon]

If you claimed vig after page 14, then I don't understand your concern especially since I'm not the only one voting you and the one who is was around to see your claim.

'twas after page 14

yeah, friend didn't unvote either, but he only posted like 2 lines anyways :/

[singersigner]

EBWOP: lol.

unvote

[lane0168]

@tcl, but i don't believe him... so we've had two people very close to being lynched... and they both happen to be PRs? but not scum... or townies... I don't see it. But if you're saying its not good to vote a claimed PR even if you dont believe it, why is that?

[lane0168]

i am not fucking scum. this game is full of very dense town and very smart scum. you can not argue with this statement as supposedly we have tried to lynch two power roles. Which means, these power roles played pretty shitty to get their wagons that high. HAHA!!! and I AM THE USELESS PLAYER... almost lynch two power rolls. NOW i'm fucked, and i'm town. Something is NOT RIGHT HERE AND NO ONE SEEMS TO WANT TO ADMIT THAT OR THAT THEY ARE WRONG BECAUSE THAT IS "SCUMMY"!!

I would like to wish twisted luck, because i believe him to be telling the truth. i would like to wish drk luck as well. these two are the only ones that i see for sure town. And if you say i'm buddying cause they said they dont think i'm scum... well gtfo your little tunnel vision... maybe its because they are the ONLY ONES THAT ARE RIGHT!

My vote is not in vain if only to get people out of their own ways, and to (hopefully) start lynching actually scum, not me and two PRs.

[lane0168]

EBWOP: my *lynching is not in vain...

[DeathRowKitty]

@tcl, but i don't believe him... so we've had two people very close to being lynched... and they both happen to be PRs? but not scum... or townies... I don't see it. But if you're saying its not good to vote a claimed PR even if you dont believe it, why is that?

It's better not to lynch without a counterclaim in an open setup unless you're

really

sure about it. If he's actually the dietician, scum will want to kill him anyway, in which case lynching him is just doing their job for them.

Unvote

This isn't quite going as planned. Best case scenario, someone counterclaims Xalxe and Twistedspoon isn't actually vig and the real vig kills him tonight, but only time will tell.

If it's coming down to lane vs. Friend, it's a bit of a no-brainer to me. Which is good, considering I may or may not have a brain.

Vote: Friend

[lane0168]

but why would they kill xalxe? they could leave him alive, and when he's claiming who he checked, it would look like lies if the scum never killed him... either way, to me he lives if he's scum or if he's dietician and not lynched.

unvote

vote:friend

got nothing to lose at this point.

[DeathRowKitty]

but why would they kill xalxe?

If he's town, every night they don't kill him is another inspection result he gets. When he inevitably does flip (whether by night kill or by lynch), every night they don't kill him is another scum caught or confirmed townie they have to worry about.

[lane0168]

idk... we dont know what he is when he gets killed at night, he could still be scum being killed by another scum right? but scum will probably kill twisted first. and if xalxe doesnt get killed night 1. what does that mean? to me there are just too many loop holes with that claim, although i see what you are saying.

[DeathRowKitty]

I'd forgotten about the no reveal NK mechanic. That does potentially complicate things a bit, but it shouldn't change optimal play here.

[DeathRowKitty]

Unofficial Vote Count

lane0168 (6): Xalxe, MagnaofIllusion, DemonHybrid, chesskid3, andrew94, tclawren
Friend (3): Romanus, DeathRowKitty, lane0168
Twistedspoon (1): Friend
singersigner (1): Twistedspoon

Not voting (1): singersigner


We have 35 minutes to deadline and lane is 3 votes up. Singer, if you're around, it's time for you to vote, even if it's not up-to-date on the thread. Twisted, your vote isn't doing anything where it is now. A vote on Friend would be much more useful (pleeeeaaaaaase?).

I discovered while making this post (the vote count part) that andrew's unvote wasn't even off of Xalxe...it was off of Friend. Andrew, do you still think Friend is scum? (If so, that wagon is perfectly viable right now)

I would give tcl a personalized appeal too, but I honestly don't know what to make of him. He's reminding me too much of myself from when I first started playing. That means 2 things:
1. I really want him to be town.
2. I was scum in my first game, so I'm naturally a bit paranoid about him.
(That wasn't particularly game-relevant, but I was a bit stuck strolling down memory lane and figured I'd post that to get it off my mind.)

[chesskid3]

whats the logic behind the friend push and not the lane push?

[DeathRowKitty]

The logic is that lane is omfg obv-town.

[singersigner]

I would rather see a Friend lynch than Lane's.

vote: Friend

[chesskid3]

and you don;t think friend is equally obvtown?

[DeathRowKitty]

I do not.

I would normally be screaming and flailing at this point to try to change the lynch, but I honestly have no idea if Friend is scum. I just have trouble imagining a universe in which lane is scum.