Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

Zyrconium · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:14 pm

TT, it give us more info this way, but I actually thought about it and the info isn't actually useful to town...

Amrun · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:36 am

Zyrc's suggestion of this makes him much scummier to me.

HEY EVERYONE. LET'S REVEAL WHO HAS GOODIES AND EXACTLY WHAT.

Great idea. Not.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:07 am

Actually.

Zoo visitors: Claim who you targeted. If they got stuff the person is confirmed VT.

Amrun · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:11 am

No. NO.

STOP.

Morthas · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:32 am

@Vezok: RIIIIIIIGHT, and scum can't possibly think of lieing. Right?

mb53 · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:51 am

So, for my NS vote, I didn't say why I think he is scum right away, because I was planning on pulling direct quotes, but he hasn't really said anything that I can find that is specifically scummy, it is rather just generally scummy play. He lurked a lot through day 1 (whether on purpose or on accident), then voted TS for LAL (which is say is a really easy way for scum to get on a wagon, because when the player flips town, scum can just say "Well he lied, why would I think he was town"), then didn't really do anything else.

Really vezok? You essentially are suggesting a mass-claim?

Morthas · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:56 am

Thanks mb for pointing out why NS is scummy, had pretty much the same thoughts but i'm thinking that Hazard has more chance of being scum
Who else abided to the LAL rule as much as NS? From what i remember Toasty, who in my opinion doesn't seem to have town motivations for his various standings on players but hey, it might be me wrong or his bad play.

Nobody Special · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 5:57 am

vezok: please to stop being an idiot, plskthx.

mb: Day 1 I was catching up on the bajillionz of posts that TS and everybody else was making. Also, TS was scummiest IMO. AND HE LIED ABOUT HIS PR. There is never any reason for a Town player to lie. Never.

Morthas · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:02 am

@NS: The problem is after catching up you hardly did anything and there were enough reasons to ignore TS's ''HUGE LIE''.
Sorry using LAL as an excuse to Lynch a bad player because of him trying to conceal his role did not strike a good vibe from me.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:09 am

LOL.
Add toasty to the scum team. Almost no interactions with morthas and only a few with amrun.

Scum team game caught. Game finished.

BYE.

VOTE FOR MORTHAS AND LYNCH SCUM.

vote morthas

I think I forgot to do this.

Morthas · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:19 am

Wait, didn't you already vote for me? What's your reasons for voting me? Why amrun and why Toasty? Quick conclusions 0.o? Sigh.

ToastyToast · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:26 am

vezokpiraka wrote:Actually.
Zoo visitors: Claim who you targeted. If they got stuff the person is confirmed VT.

I'm partially in favor of this. Hazard already claimed zoo visitor, so what did HE do?

And what in my play other than a lack of association with morthas makes me scum? Morthas hasn't done much worth commenting on thus far, and I have stronger reads elsewhere. He was null for me D1, but he's a better vote than NS. Need to ISO him.

Morthas wrote:From what i remember Toasty, who in my opinion doesn't seem to have town motivations for his various standings on players but hey, it might be me wrong or his bad play.

Such as...?

Amrun · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:00 am

Vezok, even if morthas is scum, "people he doesn't talk to" means VERY little in the start of day 2.

Poor logic, role fishing, and lining up lynches.

Stop being a VI so I can figure out if you're scum or not. X.x

Toasty, explain to me why you think Hazard claiming is even remotely a good idea.m

vezokpiraka · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:11 am

I am town. As town as it gets.

You and morthas are the scums.

Amrun · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:30 am

You know, I actually DO think you are town... Probably, anyway.

You're just so, so, so wrong with your line of thinking.

You still haven't answered my questions to you.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 7:38 am

I missed them. What were the questions?

Charlie · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:06 am

Vote Count 14

Nobody Special (3) - mb53, Kalofer, Stels
Hazard With a Glove (2) - Morthas, crazypianist1116
Morthas (1) - vezokpiraka
Zyrconium (1) - ToastyToast
vezokpiraka (1) - Hoppster
Stels (1) - Zyrconium

Not voting: Amrun, Hazard With a Glove, Nobody Special
Deadline is on Wednesday, 20th April at 1200 hours (GMT -5)

ToastyToast · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:49 am

Amrun wrote: Toasty, explain to me why you think Hazard claiming is even remotely a good idea.m

Helps us figure out how the PR works. I'm starting to thing hazard should only tell us if we are close to lynching that person. Do you think its wrong to assume that scum have no ingredients?

Kalofer · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:05 am

Nobody Special wrote: mb: Day 1 I was catching up on the bajillionz of posts that TS and everybody else was making. Also, TS was scummiest IMO. AND HE LIED ABOUT HIS PR. There is never any reason for a Town player to lie. Never.

yeeeeah cause TS had a lot of reasons to do the many many other weird things he did. Here's a few reasons why townies would lie: bad player, couldn't care less, has to lie to protect himself (as TS said). Or if you don't agree with those reasons make some up of your own cos TS was a lying townie reason or not. Obviously you're going to have to give some much better excuses if you don't want to get lynched.

Amrun · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:52 am

Vezok: explain how my play could come from a scum perspective. Ignore mothras for the purpose of the question.

Toasty: In case of imminent lynch on target, agree. Just not for no reason. But I wonder if stolen ingredients can be stolen again, like if Hazatrd is town and targets scum, would it fail or would he get something they'd stolen?

Zyrconium · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:05 am

Amrun wrote:Zyrc's suggestion of this makes him much scummier to me.

This is correct, hence the embarrassed smiley.

Amrun wrote: HEY EVERYONE. LET'S REVEAL WHO HAS GOODIES AND EXACTLY WHAT.

Great idea. Not.

This is incredible bullshit misrep, it'd reveal one person's goodie-having-ness.

Amrun wrote:No. NO.

STOP.

This is also an overreaction, mostly cause vezok is wrong, it's perfectly logical for a PR to have goodies, the reason the visitor(s) don't is because they use goodies as part of their role.

The correct reason for Hazard to point out his target is so we can make sure he is a visitor, whichever alignment you feel like painting that visitor.

Amrun · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 10:25 am

Someone suggested "full results," which to me indicated who he stole from and what he stole.

I WOULD like to know who he targeted, but I don't want scum to know that that person has goodies, if scum does not already know.

And yes, vezok, is wrong, but I wanted him to stop before it got worse.

Zyrconium · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:23 pm

Amrun, if that person still has goodies.... there's too much to speculate that not knowing won't help town... and I suspect transparency will get rid of most of that speculation... there another reason that I'd like to know how Hazard's role effects town, but pointing that out would be giving advice to scumHazard, if such a beast exists.

Zyrconium · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 12:36 pm

EBWOP: I should probably add that I don't think anyone wants "full results", and couldn't find the post with those words in it...

Amrun · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Mar 31, 2011 4:45 pm

Maybe I was mistaken. I was reading on my phone during class.

But what I mean is that I don't want Hazard to say, "I stole lollipops from x." If scum need lollipops to complete some sort of creation, they know where to go.

I don't really know how that works; maybe they aren't told what ingredients they need ... but then again, maybe they are.