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>_> honestly, I didn't even know I was prevoting you until you mentioned it. I had no intention of voting you until you started mentioning the prevote. Shows how afraid you are to die, scum.
It's up to Nacho at this point methinks. If I get lynched, it'll only strengthen the town cause when I flip town since everyone has been against me at some point this day phase, it'll be easier for the real members of the town to pick the scum off.
Though I walk through the shadow of the valley of death or something like that. I don't know where I was going with that. Oh well, already typed it too late now.
Stels wrote:
@Ellyssa/Everyone: Why the hell are you all talking about scum partners when we haven't even nailed a single scum yet? The fact that you guys are doing so is freaking weird.
List of people who do so:
Ellyssa
Quaroath
T-Bone
I see some correlation between these three people. If I were to say something about this in a similar manner as they have that distracts people from their main scum suspects and gives them a pre-vote advantage in a subconscious way is that there is either a Ellyssa/T-Bone team or Quaroath/T-Bone team... Ellyssa/Quaroath team I don't see, due to their interactions with one another being distanced... How do you like them apples now!?
Interesting. It's because there are only two scum and Quaroath seemed to have three suspects, so I wanted clarification (on my latest query anyway) if he still thought all 3 were scum, as he thought them scummy enough to vote them (for pressure or otherwise) back to back to back in D3. He seemed to explain it fine though. I was trying to feel out if he was just fishing for mislynches or not.
Why are you speculating on scumteams then, if you think it's freaking weird, in addition to the fact that despite thinking Nacho is scum, you're trying to breadcrumb several combinations of scumteams that don't include him at all?
I totally meant to avoid using the word breadcrumb as I looked it up and it means an entirely different thing. Apparently I forgot to change it after checking the definition.
Curious to see what Nacho will do. I still think Bone's the better lynch, but will wait for Stels to reply anyway (or hammer late tomorrow/sometime on the 2nd if needed to avoid a NL).
I stand by my vote as well. Most of T-Bone's posts don't have any scumhunting behind them, and he tries to melt into the background after failing to get Ellyssa lynched. I think it's really odd how he's said a few times that Rain is one of his suspects but he hasn't pursued this at all beyond dropping a couple of comments towards Rain, not a town thing to do imo. Town would also do more than just say "Well at least you'll know who's the real scum once I flip town!" I just don't buy his excuse that he always looks scummy no matter what his alignment is. Even if that's true, it doesn't preclude him from being scum.
Do we have a backup plan in case Nacho either isn't willing or able to drop the hammer before the deadline? Is anyone willing to switch their vote to avoid a No Lynch? I'd like to see Rain lynched before Stels, anyone agree?
I wouldn't mind a Rain lynch. I'd like to see a Stels lynch before him (not withstanding me, I don't mind my own lynch either) because I think we learn more from a Stels lynch at this point. We learn about Rain (because I think either Rain or Stels), and depending on the flip we learn about the people on my bandwagon (or his).
I think we learn less about my lynch because everyone has attacked me at some point. Plenty of people have voiced that they think Stels is town, but not one single person has voiced that they think I am town. Therefore when I flip town, what are you guys doing to do?
@ Everyone. Nacho recently posted in another game we're both in that he'd be out till Saturday. I don't know whether that will be before or after that deadline so someone might have to flip. However this is not an ideal situation, I think it will be much better for us Day 3 if the battle lines stay drawn.
I will hammer Stels if neither have got their hammer vote in about 36 hours-ish. I feel T-Bone is scummier overall, but for whatever reason I find myself agreeing with a number of his posts in the last week or so. Including #360 to some extent.
Would like to hear from Nacho though so hopefully he comes in before the end of the 2nd. Or someone else decides their votes are better.
@T-Bone: Breadcrumber? So far, I haven't seen any breadcrumbs, and I definitely don't think it's you, even if it is you, it's hard to do so on one liners. I don't mind lynching Rain either, since he pretty much hasn't done anything to the cause of town either. Not to OMGUS or anything, but all he did was act his IC role and not the player role. His Hammer D1 isn't a scumtell and I don't really calculate it his case, but the way he goes after me without anything solid, as a matter of fact, any of you guys, already means something.
But hey, I got something against you as well as the other half of town and I'll stick by it unless you want to claim/show breadcrumb since it is unavoidable at this stage >_> I can claim as well if you don't mind <_<
If you want to claim it don't matter to me. I'm vanilla. But scum could say that too, so unless you're gonna claim something other than vanilla, claiming in a newbie game isn't much of a point. Scum can claim vanilla too.
Stels: He referred to/is making fun of my careless use of the word breadcrumb in #353. It didn't mean what I thought it meant, and I meant to change it after looking up the wiki (to something like "theorize") but didn't remember to before posting it.
Doesn't the part in Rule #5 (in Ald's 2nd post) about no encrypting text, refer to things like breadcrumbing anyway?
No. The idea of breadcrumbing is to mention something in passing from time to time to get people to think about it. And then it's something strong you can fall back on later. So you could go "see? I intended to to do all along."
For example. Say I wanted to claim something like lie detector. I might say things like "we'll know if you're lying or not soon enough." Or I might say things to hint that I could be the lie detector.
That's not to say breadcrumbing couldn't be done in other ways, that's just the easiest example I can think of.
Alright, so I've done some rereading on both sides, and I'm going to hammer T-Bone. And just in case I'm killed tonight, I'm mostly hammering T-Bone based on my townread on Stels, based mainly on this post. Buddying is a common tactic of scumStels, and I don't see him calling me scum and then throwing his fate in my hands if he were scum. I'd see him doing something more like "read on Nacho is changing, so I'm moving onto my next suspect".
So,
Unvote, Vote: T-Bone
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"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
@T-Bone: Nice town-like behavior you got there T-Bone. Very supportive for the remaining townies that are left.
@Nacho: You only know that based on one of my games... Unless you read my other games, which I most likely doubt.
@Stels: You sure as hell buddies in Gorrad's mafia. You're also playing suicidally, which is townie-like. It's not a common characteristic of scum to fight one of the only people who's calling them town so hard.
"Playing with Nacho is like playing with a religious conservative." ~UncertainKitten
-- Fate, Vanilla Townie, was brutally stabbed by a throwing sword in endgame.
