Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Hazard with a Glove]

No, we aren't told what ingredients we get.

But for the most part, I'd like to keep it quiet, not sure this is the best. But then again, I'm not sure there will be a time.

[Amrun]

Wait, you aren't told what ingredients you get?

That rings REALLY false to me.

[ToastyToast]

Wait, you aren't told what ingredients you get?
That rings REALLY false to me.

Howso? If we are to take TS' statements as truth, then he would not know exactly what he could make.

[Amrun]

I understand not know what you would MAKE.

But as I've already revealed that "evil people want my goodies," I can say that I have goodies and I know EXACTLY what they are.


It makes no sense to me that a supposed Zoo Visitor would steal a goodie and not know what it is. He might not know what he can make with what he's got, but he should definitely know what he has.


Hazard looking scummier.

[ToastyToast]

@Hazard: Are there specific ingredients you need in order to make your item? Or do you simply need ingredients?

[Zyrconium]

Hazard, if you don't tell us [who you stole from], your chances of survival... aren't too great.

[Hazard with a Glove]

You are missing things. First of all Charlie keeps track of my candy, I do not get to know what I get, what I can make, or how I can use it. Also, my PM says I can steal if it's a candy animal, so I don't think I can steal things that have already been stolen.

[Zyrconium]

Hazard, I think you managed not to answer a single question posed to you there, bravo....

[mb53]

Why

does hazard need to say who he stole from? ... >_>

[Zyrconium]

so we can confirm that he can steal from people....

[Hazard with a Glove]

How has that not already been confirmed.

[mb53]

Scum can just as easily lie and say they targeted someone.

That confirms NOTHING.

Hazard is still town BTW

[Zyrconium]

sure they can, if scum happens to know for a fact that said person can't tell if they've been stolen from....

[Zyrconium]

what does Hazard/town gain from keeping it secret?

[mb53]

A better question is what does scum gain if said secret is revealed?

ROLE INFORMATION.

What does town gain if that secret is revealed?

NOTHING.

[Hoppster]

Hazard: Do you know whether the person you visited had goodies to steal or not? Or is even that not confirmed?

[Zyrconium]

mb, what role information? we MIGHT get told if the person has goodies, I don't think that's especially mindblowingly awesome for scum, but I could be wrong, so we could take very simple countermeasures to prevent EVEN THAT from being known, specifically, asking Hazard's victim, when discovered: "Do you BOTH have goodies and NOT have any indicator that those goodies were stolen? Answer with a single "Yes" or "No"."

mb, you randomly decided(I can't actually see any reason you've put forward for this) that Hazard is town, and so obviously this is needless info to you, those of us that still would like reassurances(or even the ones thinking he's scum, who AFAICT should only be reassured of this fact by TS's flip) might find solace in knowing he's not lying about his role.

[mb53]

we MIGHT get told if the person has goodies, I don't think that's especially mindblowingly awesome for scum

I disagree. It seems pretty clear that scum want to know who has goodies.

[Zyrconium]

mb, deflect more.

[mb53]

I think we are all looking far to into roles. How about you scum-hunt instead?

[Amrun]

Zyrconium, we've been through why Hazard revealing is not good unless he's at L-1.

I thought you had acknowledged that.

More later when I'm at a computer.

[Zyrconium]

Someone suggested "full results," which to me indicated who he stole from and what he stole.


I WOULD like to know who he targeted, but I don't want scum to know that that person has goodies, if scum does not already know.

And yes, vezok, is wrong, but I wanted him to stop before it got worse.

This is the closest I could find to what you might be referencing Amrun, you'll see it saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of what you thought we had agreed was best for town. And MB, if you happened to be reading you'd see I've already found scum, I'm just being ignored on the subject.

*silently watches as the town proves that being impolite is the only way to get a real response*

[Zyrconium]

EBWOP: and incase mb actually starts responding to me, I should take the time to point out a funny joke.

mb, deflect more.

I think we are all looking far to into roles. How about you scum-hunt instead?

[Amrun]

What do you mean?

I said "I would like to know, but I don't want scum to know." That means I don't actually want Hazard to come out with the information.

In hindsight, I can see how that's a little ambiguous, but I definitely said at one that he should reveal only at L-1.

[mb53]

And MB, if you happened to be reading you'd see I've already found scum, I'm just being ignored on the subject.

You have not found scum.