Not sure I understand that last statement.Nachomamma8 wrote:fitz, rhino is givin me a deadline extension to do my thing because it was his birthday and we are friends.
i do remember thinking cecily was odd, so I'll glance at her tomorrow.
but i am about 100% sure voided is scum, enough to fake a guilty so.
We pretty much established he's none of the above; fairly certain the wiki wouldn't lie, either, so there's that. Scum.Voidscum wrote:However, I believe that in this kind of game there can also be naive or insane or paranoid cops, which would make his claim practically useless otherwise.
Nachomamma8 wrote:well i remember when you played scum in my game everyone thought you were protown and glorious because you give analysis but you don't step on toes.
and here everyone hates you, you're not jumping on the easier wagons that they're begging you to, and you're not jumping on the easy target but obvtown, you're pissing people off, and you're bitchin about me lurking.
That's a town having fits if i ever heard one.
Well, he'd do better to give a damn if he wanted us to actually take his gambit as true. Lashing out as he did near the end did NOT help.chkflip wrote:I'm only atpage fiveand I just LOL'd pretty hard at the pelican picture. That's pretty much pappum's playstyle; he's fast, brash, and just doesn't give a damn.
Bolded sums it up.chkflip wrote: If he was pulling a gambit (which I doubt entirely) then it'll be his end, but(unless he says later that it's a joke and I haven't gotten there yet)
Aka: I can't knee-jerk and just type the first thing that comes to mind. Doing that is INSTA-SCUM!chkflip wrote:either way Voided pretty much solidified my scumread on them via terri-bad reactions. I'm also pretty sure that scum would have hammered and been done with it if Voided was town. This part of his defense is especially horrific.
*rolls eyes*chkflip wrote:We pretty much established he's none of the above; fairly certain the wiki wouldn't lie, either, so there's that. Scum.Voidscum wrote:However, I believe that in this kind of game there can also be naive or insane or paranoid cops, which would make his claim practically useless otherwise.
I believe, at that point, Jinxx was pretty much no longer under his V/LA days, or was just on the edge of it. If I had called him out on Saturday or Sunday, this would have quite a lot of merit, but nope.chkflip wrote:Also, calling someone out with an illness V/LA is just about the worst reason to give. Ever. For anything. Jesus it's almost as if we didn't need pappums to tell us you're scum, you're doing a better job all by yourself.
chkflip wrote:@niel: what if pappums replacementisn'tjust one-day? What if that was a bluff to portray himself as, therefore, "useless to Mafia" as you so eloquently put.
But, as I'm sure you've seen, you've been told wrong.chkflip wrote:I don't want this to turn into a wall too much, so I'll give further analysis soon.
I'm really sorry it took so long, but my access has been limited and I wanted to do a good read.havingfitz wrote:WTF Bub? Are you stillBub Bidderskins Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:26 am EST wrote:Sorry for getting prodded, but real life has kept me from doing a serious re-read. Working on it now."Working on it?"I really do not care for people who coast or contribute nothing. I really appreciate people who are good enough to replace in to a game and help another group of mafia players out. Thanks for replacing in Bub...how about doing us a favor and replacing out if you can't contribute ANYTHING to the game you joined over 8 days ago. Five posts you have made.You've made almost as many posts (4) in other games/threads just in the last ten hours
And Cecily...I see you lurking as well.
Little confidence, or could he simply be hounding his other suspect while he waits for the lynch he's sure will be a good one to pull through?Bub Bidderskins wrote:Neil's situation is different, though. He attacked fitz a great deal, the main pusher of the rat wagon (which he was on). Even though he says that he doesn't think fitz is scummy, he still attacks him. He does very little actual pushing on rat, and spends most of his time attacking fitz. That shows that he has little confidance in the rat wagon because he knows it's a mis-lynch.
The fact is that the wagons on fitz and rat are totally opposite. They're incompatible as scum partners, and thus pressuring both at the same time is counter-productive from a town point of view.Voidedmafia wrote:Little confidence, or could he simply be hounding his other suspect while he waits for the lynch he's sure will be a good one to pull through?Bub Bidderskins wrote:Neil's situation is different, though. He attacked fitz a great deal, the main pusher of the rat wagon (which he was on). Even though he says that he doesn't think fitz is scummy, he still attacks him. He does very little actual pushing on rat, and spends most of his time attacking fitz. That shows that he has little confidance in the rat wagon because he knows it's a mis-lynch.
Of course, it's not like we can't always vote one guy, then press another <_<. No, that's too scummy.
butBub Bidderskins wrote:The fact is that the wagons on fitz and rat are totally opposite. They're incompatible as scum partners, and thus pressuring both at the same time is counter-productive from a town point of view.Voidedmafia wrote:Little confidence, or could he simply be hounding his other suspect while he waits for the lynch he's sure will be a good one to pull through?Bub Bidderskins wrote:Neil's situation is different, though. He attacked fitz a great deal, the main pusher of the rat wagon (which he was on). Even though he says that he doesn't think fitz is scummy, he still attacks him. He does very little actual pushing on rat, and spends most of his time attacking fitz. That shows that he has little confidance in the rat wagon because he knows it's a mis-lynch.
Of course, it's not like we can't always vote one guy, then press another <_<. No, that's too scummy.
But he's putting a ton of pressure on somebody who was the main pusher of the wagon he was on. There was also this post:Voidedmafia wrote:butBub Bidderskins wrote:The fact is that the wagons on fitz and rat are totally opposite. They're incompatible as scum partners, and thus pressuring both at the same time is counter-productive from a town point of view.Voidedmafia wrote:Little confidence, or could he simply be hounding his other suspect while he waits for the lynch he's sure will be a good one to pull through?Bub Bidderskins wrote:Neil's situation is different, though. He attacked fitz a great deal, the main pusher of the rat wagon (which he was on). Even though he says that he doesn't think fitz is scummy, he still attacks him. He does very little actual pushing on rat, and spends most of his time attacking fitz. That shows that he has little confidance in the rat wagon because he knows it's a mis-lynch.
Of course, it's not like we can't always vote one guy, then press another <_<. No, that's too scummy.that doesn't mean he can't do that.
Why does Neil have to not pressure Fitz because they're not partners? Do you think that Neil cannot get anything else from Fitz at this point? I want reasons why it can't be done, not why it shouldn't.
It seems like he wants to be on the rat wagon, but wants to distance himself from the main logic pushing: fitz' logic.Neil wrote:I agree, this is kind of aggravating. However I don't agree with the L.A.L style of Mafia, so I can't justify lynching him just because he lied, despite how anti-town that is. I kind of understand his view, as far as trying his luck at reaction fishing. However there are better ways then this, and he could've single handedly caused a stupid lynch on perhaps a town PR, and then we'd be **** out of luck at the start of Day 2, especially if scum hit ANOTHER town PR during the night. So I WOULD be up for lynching him for the single purpose that he almost caused a lynch on someone that may or may not be scum, all because he was "reaction fishing." In fact:
VOTE: UNVOTE: Xalxe
VOTE: VOTE: Pappums
I can see your actually trying, or appearing to be trying, So I give you credit for that. However, you have no case against me sir so I see no reason to warrant a response. The only answer I could give you is WIFOM because your case is WIFOM.Bub Bidderskins wrote:Okay, now my brain officially hurts, but I feel good knowing I can finally enjoy this game. Again, I'm sorry for my delayed response.
