Open 290 - Double Day (Game Over)

[bvoigt]

I've never played with Nacho before, but has he ever pulled a gambit like this as town?

Well, has he ever pulled a gambit like this as scum?

You're the one saying he didn't do this as scum. If he does this as town, it would be a town-tell. If he doesn't do this as town, then it means nothing more than that he's decided to try something different in this game, and you clearing him on that basis is scummy.

Exactly...he was doing something different with the gambit, and you're trying to make it into a scumtell.

UNVOTE: Meransiel
VOTE: Apokalyptica

I think she may have trapped herself with her own words here.

[singersigner]

Re: vote...it seemed as though you felt you had legitimately found a scumslip indicative of scum, but chose not to switch your vote. Why was Meransial a better vote at the time?

I'm sorry but I don't understand

I don't actually either...

My vote was on mer
I felt That mer had made a scumsli
Since my vote was already on mer, I didn't have to switch my vote.

Is that your question?

Yeah, you're right. I went back and checked and the FIRST time I questioned you, I think I thought your vote was on someone else. The SECOND time I forgot who I thought who you felt Klazam found a scumslip for.

Don't worry about it. My brain's been fried for the past couple of days.

[Klazam]

just a quick post: V/LA for 48 hours or so. Something came up.

BTW: I still like my mera vote where it is.

[silverbullet999]

Also going to catch up tonight... this week has not been fun.

[Stephoscope]

Vote Count

Meransiel - (5) Klazam, Twistedspoon, pod person, silverbullet999, Furcolow
Nachomamma - (4) Apokalyptika, HackerHuck, Nobody Special, singersigner
Apockalyptika- (3) Hiraki, Number58, bvoigt
Number58 - ConfidAnon
Hiraki - Pim
singersigner - nachomomma8

Not Voting - Meransiel

With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
The current deadline is Monday, April 4th, 8PM EST.

Hero764 replaces Pim.

Thanks, Hero764!

[Hero764]

What's up guys. Reading the thread as we speak, should post later today.

[Stephoscope]

I am extending the deadline to Thursday, April 7th at 8PM EST, mostly because moderation may be spotty this weekend. Everyone be good

[Hero764]

Okkk

Mostly agree with Meransiel being ridiculously scummy right from the start. Might be just a noob but I don't see any reason to give him the benefit of the doubt, esp considering this is day 1 and yeah. Everything that needs to be said has already been said tbh. Fine with lynching him today.

Unvote

Vote: Meransiel

Other shit that needs mentioning:

singersinger in post #111 is sending off bad vibes, I'm surprised no one else commented on it. I think it wouldn't look so bad if she hadn't been active lurking the whole time, but given her minuscule number of posts a random defense of fur seems effing weird. If Fur is town then there's an obvious scum motivation to appear town by defending him and she's avoiding having to comment on other stuff. Shame on you guys for letting her get away with that without so much as an acknowledgment.

Furcolow is hilarious in this game. I don't know if he's taking the piss or genuinely has this personality but it's very entertaining to read. Love the whole "you're so offensive" spiel with silver lololol.

Apockalyptika's "analysis" was not impressive in the slightest and is basically just a few lines of "LOLOL I WANT TO LOOK LIKE I'M SAYING SOMETHING EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT". Then when this was brought to her attention, well..

Again, "You're scummy because you disagree with me" is not a logical argument. You think Nacho's town, I think he's scum. If you look at the votecounts, you'll see people who agree with me. Do you think they're all scum?

We get this scummy ass post. So what we have here is you a) continuing to not defend yourself against the claim that you didn't provide a valid reason to vote Nacho, b) justifying that fact that you voted Nacho based on the fact that other people have. AKA you're scum who wanted an easy bandwagon to jump onto and not have to provide any reasoning and you just admitted it. ...that's like, a major scumslip or something, man.

I say we go Meran for day .5, Apok for day 1.

As for Nacho....don't really see the case against him at all. I've liked his play so far.

If you have any other questions for me go ahead and ask!

[Hero764]

Oh wow I look like a massive hypocrite in that post lololololol

Oh well. If anyone wants my specific reasons for voting Meran I'll be glad to provide. Couldn't really be arsed to bring up stuff that other people have already brought up =/

[silverbullet999]

-pod

what won him these slight town points? you don't specify in your post, and the top of your post has him listed as your #1 suspicion and best vote. both of which seem to change over the course of the post.

I typed it out while I caught up... pretty sure I mentioned that

[Twistedspoon]

I say we go Meran for day .5, Apok for day 1.

this

the sooner we get a mer lynch the safer the town is

mer will end up being a lylo hazard anyways. The sooner he goes, the clearer things get

[Furcolow]

welcome to the game
im glad youre voting the scum
maybe we can lynch


the above haiku was brought to you by town aligned dot org

[Furcolow]

But I...didn't...get called out on it?

I very explicitly explained my reads and who I'd be ok with lynching. I can't help it if you didn't read my post in order. Though I will apologize for not explaining why I felt Meransiel needs/should be lynched today. That did come across as ambiguous.

I did call you out on it. Now you are lying.
I read your post in order, then when I got to the bottom, I realized how contradictory it was with the top.
"ambiguous" is not the word. I am not as concerned with the Meransiel aspect, I am way more concerned with you saying Meransiel's lynch was the lynch for today, nigh imperative, and that we had no other options..... yet you didn't vote Meransiel, you voted Nacho, who you called town.

Did you or did you not call Nacho town? I will definitely quote the shit out of it and vote you if you lie about this. Please quit dodging and explain yourself fully here, or I really am going to derail all wagons and tunnel the shit out of you.

[bvoigt]

mer will end up being a lylo hazard anyways. The sooner he goes, the clearer things get

You're probably right, but I've become more confident that Apok is scum.

[Furcolow]

@pod person: I agree having a flip makes the RVS a little easier to understand, and can be damning, especially with that tell

I'm really liking #424 from number 58. I find it both refreshing to see someone elaborate on new reads, which he follows into leads. I agree with his town assessment of who he assessed as town in that post as well. I would rather lynch the other two up for lynch, personally, and would consider voting apok or singer if the chance arises near deadline.

I am probably going to save singer for the 2nd cycle.

[Twistedspoon]

mer will end up being a lylo hazard anyways. The sooner he goes, the clearer things get

You're probably right, but I've become more confident that Apok is scum.

we'll lynch them both. It's double day remember

[Furcolow]

I'm perfectly fine with an Apok lynch, but do we want to let Meransiel off the hook? I don't know if I want to see Apok flipping town and an alive Meransiel.

[Twistedspoon]

I'm perfectly fine with an Apok lynch, but do we want to let Meransiel off the hook? I don't know if I want to see Apok flipping town and an alive Meransiel.

off the hook?

all we'd be doing would be delaying his or apok's lynch by 0.5 days.
Not even a night phase could occur

mer would be far from off the hook should be lynch apok first

[Furcolow]

there's no way in hell we should lynch anyone other than Meransiel with this
Why are you flip flopping on that now?
You really wanted Meransiel earlier.

[Furcolow]

"I say we go for mer .5"
"apok should be first"
direct contradiction in like 10 posts

[Twistedspoon]

I want them both dead

Especially mer

but I can wait 0.5 days If you guys want to lynch apok first.

It doesn't matter who dies first is all I'm saying. Both will die before a night phase and we should(almost certainly will based on play) get 2 scum flips

[Hero764]

If we get two scum flips my ego is going to be so big haha.

[singersigner]

lol @ Hero thinking I was actually defending Furc.
In all honesty, it was to see how he would react simply

because

I know he has a short fuse. If anything, looking at it from an outsider's view, I would assume it's someone discrediting him as opposed to a defense. I'm surprised no one brought THAT up, and even more surprised that you caught it, but for the wrong reasons.

-pod

what won him these slight town points? you don't specify in your post, and the top of your post has him listed as your #1 suspicion and best vote. both of which seem to change over the course of the post.

I typed it out while I caught up... pretty sure I mentioned that

Furc, it seems to me as though Silver and I had the same thought process as we typed our post. I'm calling you out on already tunneling me for something you find scummy while completely dismissing someone else for the same thing.

I don't mind if you "quote the shit out of it." It'll be good for you to point out where you're wrong yourself. It's all a big learning experience here.
I said the two people I wanted lynched on this

Double

Day

, and that's that. No lies. No gambits.

I will vote Meransiel later since it seems as though Nacho's not going to get lynched first (though I may rethink that with the extended deadline). But I'm revisiting that as soon as the second half of the day starts.

By the way, where

is

Nacho?

[Furcolow]

You said nacho was town
you then said nacho was scum
I am speaking now like I would to a child, around the age of 5, because that is the only way I will get you to address this point apparently

[bvoigt]

I would rather lynch Nacho, though. He’s not acting in a pro-town manner

anymore

.

It was a catch-up post, so I'm assuming she thought he was town at one point, and then read a few more pages and changed her mind.