Mini 1144 - AW: Mafia Strikes

[gandalf5166]

I think you're all missing the fact that CP proving his role doesn't prove that he's town. Not even a little bit. But now that I think about it......

BV gets a double vote for keeping his SCO power charged. Now, that seems like a pretty small benefit for not using your power at all, especially when me, TM AND Fate all have doublevotes(and more) from our passives and our normal powers. But when you consider him as scum, it all makes sense. Getting a double vote would be TOTALLY worth it for scum. They could quickhammer sooner, etc.

VOTE: BV

I think that this is a much safer bet.

[Twistedspoon]

maybe

I myself Don't have a doublevote

I'll probably use my power soon anyways

[gandalf5166]

POST MOAR

[SocioPath]

Is there going to be an instant lynch on the 5th?
Everyone just watching their percentages rise?
Cybering with AGM in their QT?
Seems like everyone has halted discussion.

[AurorusVox]

Coo'

SP: what do you think about CP proving his powahz and how he should go about doing that?

[gandalf5166]

You guys DID notice that the lynch reset, right?

[AurorusVox]

Yup. Seeing how things roll before voting. No need to give scummz another kill just yet eh?

[SocioPath]

SP: what do you think about CP proving his powahz and how he should go about doing that?

I think it could potentially be a good reverse lynch, getting a majority for such, providing another wagon to analyze.

You guys DID notice that the lynch reset, right?

No, I'm clueless and certainly not voting for the person I think should rot.
I'm certainly the one not noticing things.

[AlmasterGM]

[Activity]

GhostWriter

has received his first prod.

bv310

has received his first prod.

Another round of prods will be sent out on Monday if activity doesn't pick up by then.

[Fate]

OH ISNT THAT DELIOCUS

I SAY "SCUM ARE IN FOR A HURT GET TO POSTIN CAUZ I GOT INFOZ FOR A QUICK LYNCHOZ"

*GAME-WIDE LURK*

I SEE YOU FUCKS AND I KNOW WHO YOU ARE.

NOTHING ESCAPES FATE

[Enigma]

Coo'

SP: what do you think about CP proving his powahz and how he should go about doing that?

CP should prove his power if the situation warrants it. But imo, he shouldn't right now as it is a waste of time and a distraction from the next lynch.

I'm not sure what's up with bv's play. His ploy seems stupid for being scum, yet he has awfully cocky behavior for being town, which isn't really a good thing.

Implosion gives me a gut scum feel, but I can't place it. Why is he saying bv is the best lynch, when he wasn't voting for him yesterday.

Gandalf, well if you want to believe him you can but I'm not going to. I'm heading under the assumption he is lying scum until otherwise. (His claim just doesn't feel right.. like town (yer town) have mainly targeted active abilities from what I know, his isn't really..)

I don't know what to say about ghost and socio, can someone vig them so we don't have to worry about them?

Atm, I'm thinking either implosion or bv. But wouldn't mind seeing gandalf hang too I suppose.

[crazypianist1116]

Noone is volunteering to be the target of the enabler.
If it does happen, it'll be by general consensus.

If you want this to happen, then propose somebody.

P-EDIT: You make a good point.

And the more I look at it, the more gandalf's role seems scum orientated.

I've thought about this. A lot. I've thought about it as being third party. It's a great way to bully other people into using/not using their votes. Further the switch from me to bv purely based on bv's role doesn't hold much weight. It seemed he was really adamant about my horrible statements a few pages back, and he had both our roles for a while now.

Enigma, suggesting that scum have potential SOLE CONTROL of the lynch on D2(and onward from there, in fact) is ridiculous. In fact, if I played my role right as scum, it would literally be impossible for town to win unless they lynched me D1.

See the thing with this is that there's a cooldown period. Judging from your actions after the lynch, your power which gave you the 6 votes was activated immediately, rather than waiting until after the lynch was accelerated to use it. You still have to convince town to accelerate the lynch or else the timer will wear off. That doesn't make it less powerful, just more limited.

[AurorusVox]

SP, RE: using it as another wagon
So you suggest we all vote on who gets the power. I can see the worth in that, but I raised some objections when Enigma said the same (potentially revealing too much info to scum about PRs if the chosen person is not suitable; scum having the chance to manipulate who gets picked). What do you make of those criticisms?

Enigma, RE: CP using his power now
By this point we've dillydallied so much that I'm guessing a lot of peoples' powers will be at least CO full. This means that realistically, CP is going to have to double their SCO just to prove he can. Which is far too dangerous. So what do you make of my proposal that the person chosen (however that comes about) uses their CO first, in order to get it recharged sooner, i.e. prove the first part of the power, not the second, and avoid accidentally giving scum two SCOs?

[Enigma]

How about we don't care about CP's power unless we warrant him scummy enough to direct all attention towards.
The kill timer is short enough already.

If anyone want's to be the target of his power, in your own wisdom thinks it'll benefit town if you claim, then claim your abilities and let the majority decide .. sooner rather than later. EG: cop investigation or such.

AV: Who do you want to lynch. What do you think about gandalf?

[AurorusVox]

I want to lynch CP. Since CP got to L-1, I'm under the impression that others want to see him lynched. I'm under the impression that we've already warranted him scummy enough to be hung.

What changed between these two?

Noone is volunteering to be the target of the enabler.
If it does happen, it'll be by general consensus.

If anyone want's to be the target of his power, in your own wisdom thinks it'll benefit town if you claim, then claim your abilities and let the majority decide .. sooner rather than later. EG: cop investigation or such.

In the first you are dead against volunteers. The second you don't mind people volunteering. Howcomes?

[Enigma]

It's still up to general majority if CP uses his power. I'm against CP using his power on the wrong people, and by having the consensus decide, we get valuable discussion and also minimize the chance of power falling in the wrong hands.

What do you think if CP's power does plan out. Do you still want to lynch him?

[AurorusVox]

His "power" was in town hands in the last game. One of the scum roles switched side, but that was flavour supported. Unless there's flavour reason to suspect that character would have switched sides, if his power is legit, I'd trust he was town. I just want to make checking that as damage-free as possible, because if he's scum, this is a great rolefishing opportunity.

[Twistedspoon]

CP should use his power on AV

[gandalf5166]

I would say that he could use it on me, but doubling my CO would require me to commit suicide.

[gandalf5166]

I would say that he could use it on me, but doubling my CO would require me to commit suicide.

*SCO

[Twistedspoon]

no, He should use it on AV

he has 6 days in which to do so

[implosion]

Implosion gives me a gut scum feel, but I can't place it. Why is he saying bv is the best lynch, when he wasn't voting for him yesterday.

I've explained this already, possibly twice... gandalf said that bv was already hammered before (except we hadn't accelerated) so I put my vote on someone else who was also scummy.

And the more I look at it, the more gandalf's role seems scum orientated.

Explain this, please.

SP: what do you think about CP proving his powahz and how he should go about doing that?

I think it could potentially be a good reverse lynch, getting a majority for such, providing another wagon to analyze.

Wtf is a reverse lynch?

Anyway, I'm not sure about cp's power... even if it works, it doesn't confirm him as town, and it risks giving scum a very large boost. It could also give a townie a very large boost, so IDK. I don't think that cp using the ability will help figure out his alignment (unless he's scum and making stuff up).

[AurorusVox]

Implosion: Eagle was town aligned last game. We need someone with flavour knowledge to tell us if this is likely to have changed, or if there's an alternative person who could have that power. Otherwise, his power indicates his alignment pretty clearly.

[AurorusVox]

Also, I won't comment on CP using his power on me until CP's offered his thoughts on it.

TS: any reason you chose me?

[Twistedspoon]

yes, I have my reasons