Open 296: MAFIA WINS GONNA TEACH YOU TO BURN

[lane0168]

1) What's your time zone?
2) How 'bout them Cowboys?
3) Do you believe in curses?
4) Will you win this game?

1.)central standard time
2.)i prefer firefighters
3.)yes, the kirby puckett curse. and now minnesota can win 0 championships.
4.)that depends on if it ever gets going

do we not have anyone that can get this show on the road? i am not a leader and dont really know how to do so. otherwise i would.

question 5.) Is a gut read a good enough reason to vote for someone? why?

Votecount
Mozamis (2): Hero764, lane0618
Hero764 (1): Iecerint
Bella (2) :The_Kingpin, Stefunny
The_Kingpin (1): Nachomamma8
Stefunny (3): lynchking, Bella, ThAdmiral
lane0618 (1): mozamis
ThAdmiral (1): MrTrow
not voting: Mute
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

[Stefunny]

I think D1 gut reads are acceptable, but after the game gets going you better have something more than just "gut" as reasoning.

Also, why are we in such a hurry to start?

[lane0168]

i just like to play mang

[Iecerint]

I don't think you're likely to catch anyone with random questions as structured as that. Awkward RVS moments are probably more fruitful. But I'll play along:

1. EST
2. I prefer indians.
3. No.
4. mebe idk.

[lane0168]

not from answering the questions alone... but it could spark conversation i suppose?

[Iecerint]

Well, stuff has already happened. Nacho made strong claims about who is scum; they're not made-up. Bella jumped around with RVS in ways that I can only explain to myself as manufactured WIFOM. We have players choices to match or alter or switch their RVS stuff.

These kinds of question games can be nice if there's no content, but I don't think that's true right now.

[Mute]

Well, stuff has already happened.

Nacho made strong claims about who is scum; they're not made-up.

Bella jumped around with RVS in ways that I can only explain to myself as manufactured WIFOM. We have players choices to match or alter or switch their RVS stuff.

These kinds of question games can be nice if there's no content, but I don't think that's true right now.

4th question is intended for that end. Questions and interrogations were never my forte however.
But the bold.. I'd like you to expand and explain what you meant by that if possible.

[Iecerint]

Vote: The Kingpin

For worrying too much about your random vote.

Mute and Iec are obvtown.
Hero is possible scum, but not definite scum like kingpin.

This is the Nacho post I am referring to.

[ThAdmiral]

1. Australian eastern standard time
2. I follow real football. Australian rules football.
3. No
4. Maybe
5. Yes. Sometimes you have nothing else. Sometimes your gut is right, even when the evidence is contrary.
In general, however, it is better to vote with reasons.

And to kill off rvs...

vote: stefunny

for wanting to extend the rvs (see post 51)

[mozamis]

1) What's your time zone?

British Summer Time (GMT +1)

2) How 'bout them Cowboys?

CRICKET FTW

3) Do you believe in curses?

LOL NO

4) Will you win this game?

MY RECORD AS TOWN IS RUBBISH

[mozamis]

nacho, why are you so sure about your "obvtown" and "definite scum"?

[Nachomamma8]

The people on my obvtown list have dropped good, high quality towntells.
The definite scum are behaving scummily.

mozamis is probably not scum, but it's too early to tell for sure.

I will also be

V/LA until Saturday

, so hopefully you all are done playing around by then.

duly noted

[Stefunny]

vote: stefunny

for wanting to extend the rvs (see post 51)

I did not say I wanted to extend it, I simply asked if lane was getting impatient. I think RVS is a good thing to be able to look back on. I don't, however, think that you can tell who is obvscum and obvtown by post #24.

[Mute]

Vote: The Kingpin

For worrying too much about your random vote.

Mute and Iec are obvtown.
Hero is possible scum, but not definite scum like kingpin.

This is the Nacho post I am referring to.

I know what post you were referring to, I meant why would you say they weren't made up?

[The_Kingpin]

I disagree with nacho's "obvscum, obvtown" post being legit. It was too soon to draw any inferences so it's odd that he's referring back to it.

[mozamis]

I dont understand how nacho could be so sure of his reads on the first page.

[Iecerint]

My random vote wasn't random. As such, it is not a stretch for me to take a post like that at face value. He also directly alluded to my post (i.e. he recognized that my vote wasn't trivial).

To clarify the basis of my original vote, Hero repeated his original joke vote even though the basis for it no longer applied. This speaks to an intent to repeat the prior alignment's modus operandi, which is most consistent with town->scum switching.

Kingpin's second vote was scummy because he's too concerned about obeying the "norms" of the joke phase. A self-conscious concern for obeying norms over playing the game is most consistent with scum alignment.

At this point, it's probably worth knowing who was scum before the PMs were redistributed. Claim it if it applies to you.

Do not claim anything else.

[The_Kingpin]

I think it would be VERY prudent to wait for the mod before doing that. And for the record, I just didn't feel like thinking of any other random vote. I hate the RVS, and I almost always vote once and keep it there for awhile.

[Mute]

Why do those points feel like feathers against my face?
(that is to say why do they sound bad? this is hypothetical and sarcastic, btw)

[lane0168]

why is it important to know who was scum before the roll pm's were redistributed? they have changed.

[Iecerint]

@ lane -- Because a handful of players made post-redistribution RVS votes that riffed off of their pre-redistribution RVS votes. Knowing their pre-redistribution alignment is relevant.

@ mute -- Clearly it's not that I'm ready to lynch either of those players. Page 1 tells are page 1 tells. That doesn't mean that page 1 tells are not often legit.

@ Kingpin -- Why do you think we should wait...?

[lane0168]

well i was mafia. hope it helps

[Iecerint]

Were moz, mute, Kingpin or Hero scum with you? Those are the players for whom it may be relevant.

[lane0168]

haha, figures none of them were

[The_Kingpin]

I think we should wait because the mod said he screwed up, but did not elaborate. Let's just say it would make more sense if you were me to wait for the mod's word.

Fair enough. I distributed a role PM to the original scumteam using bcc. Then I realized I had neglected to tell them who the scumteam was, so I sent a different role PM AND I ACCIDENTALLY COPIED THE WRONG PLAYER. Things have been re-randomized.