Mini 1144 - AW: Mafia Strikes

[GreyICE]

If you do that I'll be nice and let you in on my passive so you don't fuck it up

[bv310]

I support that plan. Enigma first please?

[gandalf5166]

@AV: that's about right. Right now, with BV's help, we would need all but one person to comply, but depending on the cooldown of my CO, we might be able to do it with all but two.

[AurorusVox]

It also depends on whether I have a vote or not vOv

[gandalf5166]

the sucky part is that we have a limited amount of time to organize this, since I'm probably going to be the target of the next nightkill.

[AurorusVox]

ATM we have:

GreyICE: Fate, AV(?)
Enigma: bv310

So the following should get on GreyICE: CP, Enigma, TS = 5
And the following people should get on Enigma: SP, GreyICE, Gandalf, Gandalf, (Gandalf?) = ~5

If someone is lurking and doesn't vote, bv steals their vote and parks it appropriately.
We should find out how many votes Gandalf and I have soon enough, right?

[gandalf5166]

Oh crap. I forgot, Grey has the extra lynch threshold. So we can't lynch Grey today unless we trust him to tell us exactly how many extra votes he can take.

[GreyICE]

I promise to if CP and/or Enigma vote for me.

[AurorusVox]

It took scummz ten days from the start of the game for them to get their lynch, or 5.5 days into D2 (5.5 was 50% of the player alive at that point...hmm)

Either way, it should be around the 11th they get their new kill.

That doesn't give us a whole lot of time, so I want to see votes racking up within the next few days, and preparation to accelerate the cooldown when we're ready to go.

[Fate]

CP, Enigma, TS = 5

In case GreyICE is a SCUMVENGEFUL, I disagree.

TS is basically confirmed town who watched Implosion scum target you. I mean it COULD be that he was trying to gambit to save his scumbuddy "I SAW HIM TARGET AV! Oh youre a doctor? >_>b cool!" but I doubt they'd risk thesmelves like that when I have a claimed guilty.

I'll be on GreyICE. My power isn't all that useful and Greyscum shooting me isn't a big loss.

[AurorusVox]

Can we get Enigma to claim since he's gonna get run up pretty soon?

If SP is confirmed town he needs to be on Enigma more than TS does.

[Fate]

GreyScum needs to clarify his claim more.


Is your power DEPLETED? AKa you used it and it went "NOPE DERP" and failed?

Or was it a "YOU DUMBFUCK GREY YOU DONT READ YOUR ROLE PM OR ANYTHING OF RELEVANCE?" Failed, and your power isn't even charged?

[GreyICE]

My power is 100% charged. My SuperCO meter is 100% charged. It remained 100% charged after last night.

All I got, and I can't really paraphrase was: "ACTIVATION FAILED"

So I see two possibilities:

1) I submitted two kills because I (mod-confirmed via PM) have two kills if I was boosted. I was not boosted. Ergo, I did not have two kills, and AGM rather than choosing the one on top (Implosion) just failed the batch.
2) I was roleblocked

In either case I did NOT, I confirm did NOT, receive a PM stating I was boosted. CP did state, in thread, that they received a PM that I was boosted. Since CP doesn't need to use the thread to boost, and it would be CRAZY if you didn't get a PM stating you were boosted, that means:

1) He's lying scum
2) Scum redirector (LAWL)

I don't expect to have him lynched before me, but I can and will vig his ass. That being said, the chances of a scum redirector are higher than the chances of that Enigma beast being town after that attempted quickhammer yesterday when Fate put me at faux L-1, so... well, yeah.

I'm content with my lynch, I just want those two voting for me because if they don't vote for me I doubt you can pull off a double lynch anyway. If they both post without voting I'll explain my power and we can do the math, but it seems unlikely without their votes IMHO.

[SocioPath]

2) I was roleblocked

I don't understand this.
Why would a RBer leave a charge at 100% in a real time game?

That is like in a normal game, where at night the mod goes "sorry, it didn't go thru. OKAY YOU CAN RESUBMIT IT NOW."

CP did state, in thread, that they received a PM that I was boosted. Since CP doesn't need to use the thread to boost, and it would be CRAZY if you didn't get a PM stating you were boosted, that means:

I don't understand this.
In the first game, when Eagle used his SCO on me, I wasn't told shit, until I actually used the power itself.
Then it informed me that my power was used, and there was modified by an affect.

So...

I also think one of Enigma/SP is confirmed town.

WALP

If that's the case SP is confirmed town and that takes a LOAD of paranoia off meh.

I don't understand this.
GET OFF MY DICK.

If SP is confirmed town

I DONT UNDERSTAND THIS.

he needs to be on Enigma more than TS does.

NOW THIS.
I UNDERSTAND.

VOTE: ENIGMA

LETS DO THIS.

Also its clear that one of GREYICE/CP IS LYING FUCKING SCUM.

[GreyICE]

Socio.

I agree 100%.

And I'm town, which is why I'll give you a step-by-step guide on how to lynch me as soon as I test what's going on.

All the PM said was 'activation failed' so I might not be able to use my power for a set length of time, and I claimed to not get a boost, whatever. To you in the thread it looks like scum. So lynch me and Enigma out of it, that'll get one town, one black hole, then it'll be like "so why did town GreyICE not get the boost that you confirmed you sent to him CP?"

"LAWL REDIRECTOR OBV"

[Enigma]

Don't fucking skew my vote into a hammer.

TBH I didn't even know you were at L-1, noone mentioned it at all, not to mention you are spamming the thread harassing me to vote you, even when you are at L-1.
Being on my phone, and having no recent VC, I have no intention of sitting there trying to count how many votes are on you, and I just assume that you knew what you were doing telling me to vote you.

Not being as naive as some of the other noobs here, I am reluctant to trust everyone who claims abilities without some sort of proof. EG: bv and gandalf who have done NOTHING to even suggest they have the abilities they are suggesting, yet everyone is willing to let them rampage freely with their "claimed abilities". Ohh btw, if you still haven't noticed the obvious by now, everyone has abilities and can claim for whatever reason they fill like

The claim I'll believe so far though are,
TwistedSpoon - His implosion track.

Not quite sure on what to think of implosion targeting AV. Possibly, but doesn't necessarily confirm AV.

Now I tried to think of a solution to allow grey to use his vig, but given his stupid gambit I don't feel like going out of my way to let him do it.

Also its clear that one of GREYICE/CP IS LYING FUCKING SCUM.

How about they are probably both telling the truth? That sounds fair right? Probably is.

I jailkept GreyIce before I voted for him, hence why it took me a bit longer to vote him. (Not telling you the exact mechanics nahhhhhhhhhhh)
Why? Because I'm sick of imbeciles believing every claim they hear, and given I had the opportunity to test a claim this time, I couldn't resist.
If he was scum, he would have lied about some BS investigation, and I could catch him out on it.
If he was town, more votes would pile on him, my jail would wear off in a few days and we could see some results.
Lose a bit of time, but winwin situation.

Now his story has a few merits.
His power is still 100% charged. This was modconfirmed to me too, when questioning the effects of my ability.
He tried to resubmit while the JK was still active and failed.

So there, I don't think he is lying. At least it's consistent with what I know.

[Enigma]

Fate I'm willing to believe as town, but he's definitely the kind of wanker when on your scum team would buss you to death then LOLOLOL at you.
CP, I do think he is town with his enable on greyice (who I now think is town).
AV, I say null. The track of implosion helps a bit .. but not enough to convince me.

This leaves Socio, BV and gandalf.

I can't read SP, but him clarifying how the enabler worked last game is certainly some town points.
I can't find ANY reason to trust bv right now. Who honestly looks the worse.
And also, gandalf role is rather scum suited and still remains unproven.

[AurorusVox]

#915: Or he activated

some

power, not necessarily the one he said he did. For someone who's all like "QQ People be lettin' bv and Gandalf use their powahz no one noez wut they is", you sure are quick to trust GreyICE.

(also, TS watched me, not tracked Implosion. Just sayin')
(also, if I

do

lose my votes - still waiting for a VC to confirm - then its pretty clear Implosion was the reason for it)

REL Jailkeeper - Is that your CO or your SCO?

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SP: all will be revealed shortly.
bv: doesn't look like Enigma will comply. I think you should steal his vote.

[Enigma]

Because he actually has some sort of explanation which clarifies what I know when those other 2 haven't done anything role related apart from say I HAVE A ROLE!!! (But I haven't used it yet wahhh)

NEWSFLASH: I HAVE A ROLE TOO NAHHHH.

I know what TS did. Figure of speech. His posts are readable at least.

The SCO and CO are usually related no? Well mine are at least.

What is bv complying with?

[Enigma]

NVM I saw your fail idea.

You do know that part of the luxury of being a JK means that amongst all the good and harm I can do, I can also use it to halt stupid idea if I becomes really necessary for me to use it as self defense?
Sorry about that though, I'm sure your idea took you a lot of time to come up with.

[AurorusVox]

...If you won't tell us whether its your CO or SCO can you at least tell us the flavour of your Jailkeep?

If GreyICE and you are both town why didn't you just claim it as a RB? That way scum might have tried to kill him, thus exonerating yourself as the Jailkeeper and GreyICE as the target of your protect and the scum kill.

[AurorusVox]

Ninja: how would you stop us? Allegedly, you've only recently used your power. It shouldn't be recharged yet.

[Enigma]

Jake - Tank CO of orange star.
I use brute strength and a squadron of tanks to achieve my means.

And my JK doesn't diminish the charge at all. I thought about your claim, but it's unnecessary given the mechanics of my ability.

Ninja: Umm just delay my lynch for a few days it charges pretty quick but doesn't last very long.

[AurorusVox]

Enigma: so you have unlimited JKs? Also: why would it need to charge quickly if it doesn't diminish the charge at all?

With Enigma out the way, SP: I can explain how I drew the conclusion you were confirmed innocent if you want me to. I can confirm it to everyone else if you tell me what weapon you use - if any. I know I said it was between you two, er, Enigma and you, but there's a very small chance I've misinterpreted something, somewhere along the line if you don't know what I'm talking about >_>"

[Enigma]

My JK doesn't diminish their charge. So once JK wears off they can just kill again...

Can you like explain this me and SP? Because I'm town ya know?