Hey Guys!Parama wrote:And as soon as the first person started talking, the floodgates opened and all hell broke loose.
-getslynched.
No, he asked where reasons were instead of just posting a vote. If he really had a problem with the votes on me, he would have unvoted himself. Read his post, it simply asks for reasons behind votes, which is something that should be expected from everyone.Slaxx wrote:I'm calling this BS.Toogeloo wrote:I like advocating any lynch that isn't mine on the first page, but the votes on King are highly misreped considering all he asked for was reasons for votes that were on me. He at least gave one, everyone else who voted me didn't even say hello, just plopped down a vote. I can agree that reasoning, no matter how shitty and weak, should still be given in a vote, otherwise it just looks opportunistic at best.
Giving a joking reason to vote you and just randomly voting you are the same thing, to me at least, because neither offers any legitimate content besides a vote. Such is RVS. And you are missing the point and addressing the wrong issue in this post. We are not voting him because he gave a reason for his vote on you, we are voting him because he scrutinized random votes, which after all, are random and should not fall under any scrutiny.
People attacked him for being afraid of the wagon on me (despite him being one of the votes) which is a misrepresentation of what his post stated. If people are going to call him scum, it wasn't because of him being afraid of votes.CooLDoG wrote:@toog, why did you defend king?
Am I supposed to have a scum read on page 2? I guess amongst all these people with scum reads on page 1, it seems a little abnormal. That's not how I play though, get used to it.Slaxx wrote:Toogeloo I find it funny you are shooting down other reasons for FoSs but not pushing any sort of accusations forward on your own. Its definitely noteworthy.
I play on a site that has 48 hour days and 24 hour nights. Lynches are run plurality, just like this game. This game is still slower than the norm I am used to. You don't have to worry about my technique, worry about your own.Slaxx wrote:You realize we have 4 days? Repeating yourself is quite possible the least efficient thing you can do.
GreyICE wrote:So lets dance Panda. What do you think of these?
Already gave my impression of Slaxx- Slaxx is probably town
I must fail at seeing it. He has 2 votes and a comment. He hasn't really done anything beyond that. Null.- EmpKing is like nigh-confirmed town
I've never played with CooLDoG, so I had no intention of judging him. I didn't like the post since it sets up a bit of an AoE before anything even gets rolling, but beyond that, if he really is preconceived as a VI, then it's Null for now since he could just stick his foot in his mouth.- Do not like CooLDoG. Sounded like a preemptive apology for a scumslip. That being said, I think CooLDoG has more potential to be a decent player than some people give him credit for, so would welcome a general improvement. Just not if he decides to do it when he's scum
I read it as he hasn't actually read the thread yet, and that was his way of showing he was here and will be back later.- Don't like that post by TheLonging. Ignoring what's going on to attack the flaming disaster in the room is kinda bad. Furcolow will be a Furcolow... which is not to say he don't draw scum, but what?
Do you know what the definition of "facetious" is? The post was not intended to be hardcore pressure, it was meant to slap Slaxx in the face that he demand I pressure someone. I pointed out that half the game wasn't active at the time, and that my playstyle works in a different way. For the hard of seeing, I basically stated 8 players (half the game) that I wanted pressure on. Obviously, that isn't going to happen.CooLDoG wrote:@toogy, do you understand the meaning of the word meaningful? Because you putting pressure on those players isn't meaningful and it doesn't really help the town. If anything else your posts are anti-town.
I did advocate wagoning 2 people yesterday, early on, neither with votes, and one of them has flipped scum. You people can go to hell ^_^.Toogeloo wrote:I would be inclined to go with either a Furculow or Exe wagon atm.I will not be voting for King1216. CooLDoG I am not as interested in simply because he is putting in more effort than the former two I mentioned.
Exe was bussing me as well aparently, mirite?Exe wrote:Analysis of noteworthy posts as I read:
37 - Bad omgus. King is classic scum trying to find someone on his wagon that he can use to derail it.
44 - The connections between King and Toog are ridiculous. Something is going on here, and I get a STRONG feeling of scumbuddies.
47 - Scumpoints for toog. Town has nothing to fear from accusing people. The whole "It's too early, I don't need reads" is a stereotypical scum comment.
55 - Toog is pointlessly posturing. Meta is meh.
62 -Confirms the toog-scum read. His only scumreads are based on posts made. Easy road is easy.
66 -QFTGrey wrote:If I had to choose one scumtell and discard all others it'd be jumping on 'easy targets' under pressure.
69 - Reads like Cooldog town that I've seen in recent games.
72 - Really? Parrotting the "votes were on someone else" argument? That was a bad argument when King used it to omgus me, and it still is. He got jumpy when a wagon formed on page 1, and I find that to be a solid scumtell.
76 -
79 - Poptajo, I don't understand something about your list: You barely even mentioned TheLonging...how is he that high on your scumlist?
82 - Yep, empking is probtown.
83 - So hypocritical. +Scumpoints to LLD
90 - WOW that first part is hilariously bad. That's totally null, and the fact that you tried to use it as evidence suggests connections. Pop is probscum with toog.
102 -Confirming my scumread on toog. You're only scumhunting based on number of posts. Laziness is noted.
114 - Bob is randomly speculating hoping it will stick. He just shot way up on my scummeter.
125 - WOW totally missed Bob's vote. Scumslip noted. Hmm. Lld might be town.
139 - LOL backpedalling like a boss. Bobscum confirmed.
159 - When bob flips scum, TheLonging is probscum. He lists Bob as scum, and yet doesn't vote or even talk about joining the wagon?
Nothing much notable in the next few pages. I am fine with finishing this. This has been a content rich day, and this lynch is solid like steel.
Unvote. Vote: Bobsnox
Actually, King's questioning of the votes with no reason is the declared movement from the RVS by many people. All votes after his post were considered legit hunting. King immediately counter votes Exe. So apparently, that was all staged, is that what you are telling me?Hiraki wrote:You're saying that like it isn't plausible.
Not to mention, that's RVS and should not be taken into account. You're just screwing with what scum was thinking. You don't want to think on things on how confirmed scum was thinking.
GreyICE wrote:"Exe votes for me, I'll vote back!" = bad
"Oh no, I'm scummy, lets go pick on CooLDoG" = worse
GreyICE wrote:Huh. I'll agree that those two aren't putting in any effort. Toog, is it your general policy that day 1 lynches should be on lurkers/people generally not trying?Toogeloo wrote:I would be inclined to go with either a Furculow or Exe wagon atm. I will not be voting for King1216. CooLDoG I am not as interested in simply because he is putting in more effort than the former two I mentioned.
Makes me doubt the Furculow lynch, especially since I am starting to get a really bad feeling in my gut about GreyICE. Of the two I propose, he goes for Furculow...GreyICE wrote:That's a fair enough position. I've often said when it comes down to a vote, I'll vote for a somewhat scummy lurker over a somewhat scummy active player - you'll always get reads on the active player later, the lurker will lurk.Toogeloo wrote:Not my general policy, but if you consider activity an important factor, it does help to get rid of the bad inactives than the bad actives on Day 1. Bad actives tend to draw more attention from scanners, and they tend to eventually shoot themselves in the foot if they are scum because they talk so much.
I do think it's pretty terrible though that a majority of King's lynchers have very little involvement in the game thus far.
Unvote
Vote: Furcolow
BANDWAGON HO!
...more following up of Furculow pressure. Now I really doubt my Furculow vote.GreyICE wrote:Now back to the game - I have a rule when I come into these sorts of games. Scum are going to be looking for the weakest members of the pack. I mean think about if you're scum and need a mislynch. Do you choose to try and mislynch Fate or DrMyShotty? Yeah.
Looking at the player list, I decided that if any point someone's scum list looked like below, I'd pretty much just autolynch them:
populartajo
Furcolow
CooLDoG
Not to say that none of them are scum, but there's what? Like 4 scum in this game? If all three drew it, hell will freeze over.
And what do I see day 1? Pokings at Furcolow and CooLDoG.
At the moment, I agree with you. Furcolow is worth looking into. CooLDoG, on the other hand, looks like scum poking for a mislynch. Look at his arguments - he really does seem to be trying. Now as the 'worst poster of MafiaScum' who does really want to improve, do you think he'd honestly start trying to improve in a game he happened to draw scum in? Or is he really trying to do his best as a townie?
GreyICE wrote:Oh for god's sake, Exe, that hammer was miserable.
FUCKING SHIT
This looks like distancing damage control to me.GreyICE wrote:Yeah.
Fuck this, whether Exe is bussing or not, that Quickhammer was a scumclaim.
Occam's Razor for now. There is zero grounds to lynch King today imo.Hiraki wrote:Still the first statement still stands. You're thinking about this way too hard, and defending King way too hard.
So I went from Neutral to...Hiraki wrote:I called him town after reading TL's case. I stated that the last point was valid, but everything else was stretched.Slaxx wrote:Just this.Hiraki wrote:Toote doesn't seem that bad, to be honest. Maybe I'm just a bit tired, but I don't see what everybody sees that's horrible. I'll try again though the only thing that I saw that was bad, was just that last comment on Page 1. It felt a bit iffy to me.That's enough to keep him at neutral at least. Town because he's really not that bad.
King needs to die first anyway. No objections are allowed.
Interesting...Hiraki wrote:Still the first statement still stands. You're thinking about this way too hard, and defending King way too hard.
I think one of you is required to die today.
First off, I am suspicious of you for my read between the lines of your Exe interactions, it's not Chainsaw since it has very little to do with anything about King. Your attack on King just makes me more sure I am probably on the right track. Secondly, I am after you. Are you calling yourself an easy target that is town? I stated I had no interest in CooLDoG yesterday, and I maintain that I still have no interest in him today. So are you attacking me because I am attacking you for your overall feelings towards CooLDoG?GreyICE wrote:Okay, yeah. That was a solid post.
King, what do you think of Toogaloo's posting overall?
If we had to pick one of the lurkers ('cause scum is in the lurkers, this is almost always true) as scum, who is it?
Unvote
Vote:Toogaloo
Not happy with the chainsaw attack into me. OMGUS? No. I don't feel it had a solid basis in fact.
Come on Toogaloo, what is it about attacking easy targets that's town? CooLDoG is an easy mislynch. Some people call him a 'policy lynch.' I disagree (I reserve that for posters like Zang and Werewolf555) but attacking him in response to pressure was just weak.
Pedit: ninjaed by a bunch.
Lady Lambdadelta wrote:GreyICE wrote:How is anything he wrote satisfying?Lady Lambdadelta wrote:UNVOTE: Toog
He's satisfied my complaints and more.
It makes me hungry for blood.
My vote was based on his play being poor and lacking content.
It no longer has that problem.
eh?Lady Lambdadelta wrote:TOWN
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Slaxx
Hiraki
TL
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CoolDog
GI
Me=Weird
TC
Shattered
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Tajo
King(???)
Toog
Furcolow
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SCUM
I read town on King yesterday, but with Bob's flip, and Exe's vote, King looks bad now. I still have my doubts though, hence the question marks.
I don't. I pretty much post my thoughts as I hit each post. For example, I typed this up without reading anything after this post.TheLonging wrote:And do you find insults to be town tells?tclawren wrote:@LLD: I like the way he's letting us into his mind while his opinion is being changed. It shows me that he was writing this while reading and didn't really go back to edit it to make it sound more "consistent." Scum tend to be much more careful about their usage of phrases and posts. In other words I think the structure of this post are a town tell.
Structure of the post? Also don't you edit your posts after going through the thread to add in details and fix up stuff?
You are hardly a popular wagon. King... that is a popular wagon. Furc... there's another. You have half the votes of the other two. Don't dress it up as more than that at the moment.TheLonging wrote:Also you don't like the fact that ICE has no support so you pick a popular wagon (me) and jump on it. I read that like 10 times and I still get the same impression.
LLD seems kind of bipolar this game. Aside from that, kind of null without further investigation.Slaxx wrote:Toog how do you feel about LL?
I'd like to think my Occam's Razor defense is at least enough to not condemn him the day a scum he was fighting with died. It's better than the argument that he is scum because he was the second leading wagon (there were only two real wagons yesterday), or anything else I've seen.Hiraki wrote:You've given no good reason why this is the case. Therefore, I'm going to say that it is the correct lynch. Why am I right? Because I've already said more than enough on it.Toogeloo wrote:It's Plurality lynching. No Majority is necessary.
Someone is getting lynched today. King is not the correct lynch.
Regfan wrote:Hey everyone, I'm very aware the lynch mechanic means shorterned days so I'll try to get through an entire re-read today, if there's anything particular you want me to look out for upon re-reading state so now.
Regfan wrote:I'm 18 pages into the game and I'm going to get coffee with a friend but I'll finish the rest after. Odds are this will change drastically between now and when I finish reading through the thread but in the meantime, here's some food for though:
populartajo is obvious town. Cooldog is obvious town. Hiraki is town. Toog is town. TheLonging is town. Grey is leaning town.
Slaxx is null. LL is null. Pine is null.
Tcl is probably scum. King is probably scum.
Furc I'm undecided on, my read on him flips every other post of his.
Regfan wrote:Finally completed an entire read through of this game. First of this game mechanic is incredibly mafia sided, therefore I'm assuming to attain a balance there would four mafia total, with three left alive meaning we should have multiple msylnches avaliable still.
CooLDoG - Town.Intially the first few posts he had made me lean scum on him, however once the RVS period was over he has conistently town-told. The fact he shows willingless and intent to vote elsewhere from Bob here comes of as a major town-tell, mafia have no need to fight against a town lynch in this form of format, it just creates the chance a lynch might suddenly switch. The open admittance to finding a case against a lurker to be weak here also comes of as a major town-tell, if he was mafia he could simply undistrubt the flow. I also read posts #215, #231 and #358 from him as town-tells, I'll go into these later if anyone has any questions.
Popular - Town.I'm not understanding how anyone had a scum-read on him at any point in this game becuase he's been by far the biggest town-read I've had throughout the entire read throughout of the thread. He openely admitted to having too many town reads here which again has no mafia motivation behind, stating multiple town-reads reduces the suspect pool of which they can lynch from. This is furthered by the fact that he voted Exe here, there was obvious intent towards moving the lynch elsewhere by the fact that the biggest suspect at the time King was in his town-reads. If kings mafia, then he has no need to defend one mafia to buss another, if Kings town he has no real need to defend a townie and buss his partner. I also read posts #155, #384, #387 and #426 from him as town-tells, again I'll go into these if needed.
Slaxx, please explain what made you believe popular was mafia earlier.
Toogeloo - Town.Again not understanding the constant suggestion of his lynch, it seems to revolve entirely around the fact he was defending King during the RVS period and stated he believed King was town afterwards - I see neither of these being strong scum-tells whatsoever. He brings up Exes interactions with various players, notibaly himself and King an an attempt to show that they are town here and here, I've found mafia generally like to avoid discussion revolving around their dead partners. The biggest town-tell I've noticed from him is here if he were mafia he would have nill reason whatsoever to push the lynch towards GreyICE one of the loudest and most active players throughout this thread where there multiple possible lurkerlynches avaliable.
GreyICE - Town.This read isn't as strong as my previous town-reads, but I don't see him as scum at all. I read this as a strong town-tell, pointing out the likely easy lynches in the thread has no mafia motivation behind it whereas it allows us to keep track of those pushing likely easy lynches. I probably shouldn't be reading into this but I find his suggestion and request for an extention deadline as a town-tell in some respect, mafia want days to be as short as possible to allow for town to be rushed into lynching and outing power-roles.
GreyICE, what possible advantages do you see in getting vig to shoot the VT claim and lynching elsewhere apart from reducing the chances of the vig hitting a power-role?
I need a break so I'll complete the rest of my reads later tonight. We still have two days until the deadline, right?
Regfan wrote:Grey, do you mind explaining Post #650, I'm unable to work out it's intention nor am I able to determine who it's directed towards.
Slaxx - Leaning town.I had reservations about him earlier due to the fact he was attempting to push a popular lynch but they've been put to ease to a degree since then. His reaction-test hammer reads as a geninue town-tell as does his reaction towards Parama ruining the ability to use it. Throughout the game he's shown general openness with his reads and constant attempts to attain others reads and reasoning the best example I could find was here.
Slaxx, since your removal of the Popular FoS what do your current scum-reads lie as?
TheLonging - Unsure.
To all those who believe TL is mafia can you put together a case in the next 12 or so hours, I'd like to read it before I state my final read of him. In particular I want your thoughts on Posts #63, #159, #163 by him.
Hiraki - Leaning town.My town read on him has faded a little since my page 18 read through, a great deal of his posts since then seem to show filler and in some situations fencesitting. I do however read his earlier play as likelytown, some of his posts read as geninue town frustration, examples of these would be here and here. His interaction with Exe makes me highly doubt they were partners and considering the night one kills I'm doubting the inclusion of two mafia teams, therefore Hiraki has to be town, an exampe of the interaction is here.
I've like Tajo, so if he is SK, I will be a sad panda. I don't think there is enough information yet to really determine a SK; hell, King could be SK... I just know he is almost assuredly not mafia. SK speculation should stay with pretty much what I posted in the last post atm, as it does us no good to guess Vig or SK. If it's Vig, they are better off staying anonymous, if it's SK, they will stay anonymous (obv).Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Toog, now reading your post, what is your opinion on the following?
Tajo-SK
TL-Scum
Psychoanalysis suggests that TL might be town in there as well. Would confscum openly claim defense of his buddy in such a manner?tclawren wrote:King is pretty much conf. town at this point, much to my chagrin.Hiraki wrote:Defeat means that I can hop on now.
Unvote, Vote: Populartajo
Btw. I don't care what Tajo's flip is. There's no way I'm going on TL tomorrow. King needs to die next.
I think TL could be the proper move, but I need to reread.
Ok... keeping an open mind.Lady Lambdadelta wrote:After an extensive VCA that you will see below, I have found a place I am happy to put my vote.
VOTE: CoolDog
HoS: Tclawren
FoS: TheLonging
One of these three is your last scum (assuming a 4 person scum team), and likely-hood of each one being scum descends as you go down the list.
WIFOMVCA STARTS HERE
If you look at the original King1216 wagon that got 7 votes, this is who you see on it.
Remember, King is obv town.
[7] KingTwelveSixteen -Hiraki,Empking, CooLDoG,Slaxx,Furcolow,Exe,bobsnox
Only 2 scum on a 7 person wagon? I mean, sure, it's possible that the other two scum were both off doing something else... but why wouldn't they try and take the opportunity for an easy Day 1 lynch?
Wouldn't his mislynch also have scum on it... considering your previous reasoning that scum would try and take the opportunity for an easy Day 1 lynch?I'm going to ignore the Bobsnox lynch, because it is my opinion that the scum slip I found was legit, and by all right he should have flipped scum.
He just didn't
WIFOM... again. You also have to consider that Furcolow and King were competing mislynch wagons, and there were only 3 scum, so both mislynch wagons can't have more than one scum on them, and that's even operating under the assumption all 3 scum were trying to get on either King or Furc. Why would all the scum be on King only? I think looking at those votals, there is probably a scum on Furc as well since he is also town, and a mislynch on King or Furc is all that matters.Next wagons to look at are Day 2 Dueling wagons of Furc and King1216.
[6] KingTwelveSixteen -Furcolow, tclawren,Hiraki, CooLDoG,populartajo,Slaxx
[4] Furcolow - TheLonging, Lady Lambdadelta, GreyICE, KingTwelveSixteen
No one has flipped who was on the Furc wagon at that point... but the real interesting thing is the two people left alive who were on the King1216 wagon.
CoolDoG and Tclawren.
I have my doubts about TC... but this is the second time CoolDog has been on a town wagon (Yes, I know King hasn't flipped town or anything, but if King isn't town I'll eat my hat.)
And this time, there is only one other scum on the wagon with him. Assuming a 4 person scum team (with Exe dead making it 3), you would expect a potential mislynch wagon like that to have at least one more scum on it.
Agreed that scum was probably on this wagon, see my point above. But who are you trying to argue as scum... CooLDoG (not on this lynch) or tclawren? Or are you just trying to set up both of them....?Here's the lynch that day:
[7] Furcolow - TheLonging, Lady Lambdadelta,Pine,populartajo,KingTwelveSixteen, tclawren,Slaxx
There are no flipped scum on this wagon yet.
Is it possible that town lynched Furcolow of its own accord? Yes, but not likely. There is a plausible case to be made that all the scums were on the King wagon, but I'd rather believe that Tclawren (who was on the King wagon too) jumped over to the Furc wagon to get the mislynch.
Since scum is down to two members, they need to work together for the mislynches I imagine. Since pop was the only focus of yesterday, I will bet they were both on him at the end of the day. Again though, you are trying to build a case on CooLDoG, but you sully tclawren at the same time, like you are trying set up two separate cases for when one flips town.Day 3:
There were only 2 vote counts in Day 3
[4] populartajo - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta, TheLonging,Hiraki
[2] TheLonging -Pine,populartajo
[1] KingTwelveSixteen - tclawren
[1] Lady Lambdadelta - CooLDoG
Here is an interesting development. Tclawren is back on King and CoolDog is voting me. There wouldn't be much of a problem with CoolDog voting me, because he has expressed suspicion of me all game (wrong but consistent).
The real kicker about CoolDog is the next vote count.
I agree... it does make sense for both scum to be on this wagon (see my above point). Again... you bring tclawren back into it again.[6] populartajo - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta, TheLonging,Hiraki, CooLDoG,populartajo
[1] TheLonging -Pine
[1] KingTwelveSixteen - tclawren
He switches his vote over to the Tajo wagon, which prompts Tajo to self-hammer as town.
Again, only one scum is on that lynch wagon that is revealed. Remember, this is Day 3, so both Regfan and Exe are dead and we are assuming 2 scums left.
It would make sense that both scum would be on this wagon... or that the scum team is Hiraki and TC.
My overall thoughts... I think you were spot on with analysis... there are certain truths about it. But I think you got your names wrong.About TheLonging: I want you to examine the wagons above. Pine is the sole voter for TheLonging. With Tajo's case on TL and his dying breath being "Lynch TL", it would make sense for a TL/Hiraki scum team to kill the only person in the game who was voting for one of them. Thus, it eliminates someone who would potentially believe Tajo's "case" and follow up on it today.
That's your VCA. Potential scums: CoolDog, Tclawren, TheLonging
I didn't say I could throwLady Lambdadelta wrote:@Toog: How can you throw just any name in there?
The votes are all there. Votes don't lie.
You were on this mislynch.I'm going to ignore the Bobsnox lynch, because it is my opinion that the scum slip I found was legit, and by all right he should have flipped scum.
He just didn't
Competing wagons. Scum knows both are town, so spread the love, get one or the other lynched. Who's on Furc... you are.Next wagons to look at are Day 2 Dueling wagons of Furc and King1216.
[6] KingTwelveSixteen -Furcolow, tclawren,Hiraki, CooLDoG,populartajo,Slaxx
[4] Furcolow - TheLonging, Lady Lambdadelta, GreyICE, KingTwelveSixteen
No one has flipped who was on the Furc wagon at that point... but the real interesting thing is the two people left alive who were on the King1216 wagon.
CoolDoG and Tclawren.
I have my doubts about TC... but this is the second time CoolDog has been on a town wagon (Yes, I know King hasn't flipped town or anything, but if King isn't town I'll eat my hat.)
And this time, there is only one other scum on the wagon with him. Assuming a 4 person scum team (with Exe dead making it 3), you would expect a potential mislynch wagon like that to have at least one more scum on it.
You are on this mislynch.Here's the lynch that day:
[7] Furcolow - TheLonging, Lady Lambdadelta,Pine,populartajo,KingTwelveSixteen, tclawren,Slaxx
There are no flipped scum on this wagon yet.
Is it possible that town lynched Furcolow of its own accord? Yes, but not likely. There is a plausible case to be made that all the scums were on the King wagon, but I'd rather believe that Tclawren (who was on the King wagon too) jumped over to the Furc wagon to get the mislynch.
Day 3:
There were only 2 vote counts in Day 3
[4] populartajo - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta, TheLonging,Hiraki
[2] TheLonging -Pine,populartajo
[1] KingTwelveSixteen - tclawren
[1] Lady Lambdadelta - CooLDoG
Here is an interesting development. Tclawren is back on King and CoolDog is voting me. There wouldn't be much of a problem with CoolDog voting me, because he has expressed suspicion of me all game (wrong but consistent).
The real kicker about CoolDog is the next vote count.
You were on this mislynch.[6] populartajo - GreyICE, Lady Lambdadelta, TheLonging,Hiraki, CooLDoG,populartajo
[1] TheLonging -Pine
[1] KingTwelveSixteen - tclawren
He switches his vote over to the Tajo wagon, which prompts Tajo to self-hammer as town.
Again, only one scum is on that lynch wagon that is revealed. Remember, this is Day 3, so both Regfan and Exe are dead and we are assuming 2 scums left.
It would make sense that both scum would be on this wagon... or that the scum team is Hiraki and TC.
I'm attempting not to be impulsive on this day. I do have other suspicions; I have not completely forgotten about my disdain for GreyICE (though I am starting to consider that I am tunneled). I also want to get some discussion on the Vig/SK possibility which is being somewhat ignored since it can bite us in the butt if we are complacent about it.tclawren wrote:@Toog: Your FOS was well thought and structured. It made perfect sense. Why didn't you vote?
You aren't cleared of any suspicion, but I do have a sinking suspicion you were being set up for mislynch on the days prior since discussion has been about "you" versus "the people who have been mislynched." I think at the moment, I have suspended your suspicion in favor of LLD though.TheLonging wrote:This is a question I really do want answered btwTheLonging wrote:For the record, I'm curious to know; what do people think of me?
I really have no words for this.GreyICE wrote:Focus. Right.
Vote: Toogaloo
You ain't town.
Well, if someone does claim the shots, regardless of whether we buy SK or Vig, it is likely not the Mafia. That does narrow down the last mafia spot, and we can worry about the shooter tomorrow. It also puts to rest any back and forths similar to what Grey thinks of me and my reciprocation. There is in all likelihood only one mafia left. The Vig has nothing to fear about coming forward if he exists.tclawren wrote:(Emphasis mine.) Given the bolded, what purpose do you see in asking? Are you just looking for a confirmed townie? Or do you just want more setup information?Toog wrote:Everyone else, thoughts of asking the "Vig" to step forward? If we don't get him, I am inclined to believe SK existence.If we do believe it's SK, then I think we are still better off focusing our efforts on mafia lynch today, since we have more info to go on so it would be easier to find them.
Don't get me wrong, CooLDoG is an awful player, but something about it just doesn't seem like the right lynch to me.CooLDoG wrote:Some of tl's recent posts are bad. Pending vote, except we have a fag-ass homo that we have to lynch first:
I do find it odd, yes. Hence the reason I made the comment right after he posted. I just don't like that it's quiet.Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Toog, don't you find it weird that CoolDog leaves NOW?
I mean, he sees you applying pressure to me and GI, and decides to let you handle things and initiate operation lurk2victory?
Hey... do me a favor and click my wiki and tell me I am experienced scum . You really haven't been playing to your standard this game Grey. You are usually far more analytical and stuff. Where's the player that was in Multiple Personalities with me? I've hardly been fluffing this game. I've town hunted more than I have scum hunted maybe, but that works for me.GreyICE wrote:CooLDoG is a mislynch. The guy just has no skills as scum, he'd spend the entire time nervous as hell, or realize he was about to, and swing to cocky, which would be just as noticeable. Meanwhile Toog just floats along on an ISO of fluff.
Toog = experienced scum
CD = inexperienced town