Bloodbath in Camden - Game Over!

[Hiraki]

I like this.

Vote: KingTwelveSixteen

[Hiraki]

Vote: Hiraki

No reasoning(she had no reasoning, not I don't).

Can you at least not ignore the elephant in the room?

[Hiraki]

Yeah. This is scum.

[Hiraki]

...What, not even a horrible reason included with those votes there?

I'm scared of votes on another player?

OH EMM GEEE.

U SUCKKKKKKKKK

So, apparently it is bad to ask people to post something other than a vote now. >_>

NOTING THE SUSPICION AND NOT DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT WILL NOT MAKE IT MAGICALLY DISAPPEAR.

I assume you are talking about me with that baseless, evidenceless, argumentless accusation there?

Oh yeah.

It was baseless.

[Hiraki]

Toogeloo I find it funny you are shooting down other reasons for FoSs but not pushing any sort of accusations forward on your own. Its definitely noteworthy.

What do you think about my reasoning?

The picture has a lot of words in it.

[Hiraki]

Meh. I'm starting to doubt myself because he's

tooo

jumpy. However, I think I'm just doubting my conclusive logic.

[Hiraki]

Give me a reason why my votes havn't been justified

The vote in #24 is an oblivious OMGUS. You're voting someone for accusing you of something(which you are, but that's not the point). If I tell Slaxx that he has a giant bee on his head, he won't vote me because there isn't a bee on his head.

tl;dr: You've taken LaL

way

out of proportion and come off as inordinately jumpy, and ready to strike at any time.

[Hiraki]

Toote doesn't seem that bad, to be honest. Maybe I'm just a bit tired, but I don't see what everybody sees that's horrible. I'll try again though the only thing that I saw that was bad, was just that last comment on Page 1. It felt a bit iffy to me.

[Hiraki]

Yeah, this is just an explanation of what an OMGUS is, not a reason why my vote isn't justified. It's also really poorly phrased.

So um. You admit it was an OMGUS?

LaL means Lynch all Liars.

[Hiraki]

YOUR VOTE WAS ON EXE BECAUSE HE ACCUSED YOU OF BEING JUMPY/WHATEVER IT WAS.

LAL MEANS YOU THINK HE'S LYING, THEREFORE YOU'RE LYNCHING HIM FOR LYING. LAL USUALLY COMES WITH A QUICK VOTE. LOOKED LIKE IT.

[Hiraki]

GOD DAMNIT IT PARAMA.

[Hiraki]

Popular. You realize that Exe and I had the same exact reasoning for our votes on King, correct?

Why is he scum?

this is also fail. why a scum would be scared of votes against another player?

Because, like I've said, this is a really nice way to say, "LOL THESE GUYS ARE FALLING INTO MY TRAP TO GET THEM, BECAUSE I LIKE OPPORUNITY. YAH YAH."

So, why's Furclow scum?

what is this i dont even
voting against someone because he doesnt like bandwagons?

...

You realize this was Page 1.

P.E.2

you guys are talking too fast all of a sudden lol.

Oh yeah.

And at the beginning of the game.

People vote.

Because.

...of pressure?

FFS. You act like he's calling him outright scum, this basically is the case with all of your horrible reads tajo.

bad first post as scum, brings unnecessary attention. (as it did)

Ehhh. Nah. The next to are subjective because you believe King is town. I like Tajo town now.

Can't identify TL at the moment. I don't get why you all had to outright push him as scum.

Nobody has given any reason why my actual votes arn't perfectly fine. You are just saying that because some people were pushing me at the time that I voted my voting is scummy by default. That is ludicrous.

Yes we have, so please, if you do mind, take your head out of your ass.

P.E.

FFS. YOU FUCKERS. 11 POSTS WHILE I WAS GONE? YOU FLYING--

LLD, lay off EmpKing. He's annoying, but he's obvtown.

Which probably means at least 50% of his reads are wrong

Agreed, but not sure about the last part. I haven't seen Empking in action, so I will make that opinion.

Is that or is that not a quote from you. Why are you trying to move the goalposts? Also, does your defence of King just a painted up version "He's town because I think he's town"? If so, why did you paint it up?

Oh see? Valid points right here.

Frankly, they aren't buddies because King is town, and his questioning of other peoples votes has town intent behind it, and is something scum would never do (because they would be wagoned for it, as evidenced by this wagon).

So you mean diverting attention isn't a scumtell? Hmmzorz.

Further, it's an easy wagon as I explained earlier, because players will jump on anyone who questions RVS, completely ignoring any kind of intent. It already has 7 votes on it, and there is a lot of opportunistic scum on it looking for the easiest lynch.

HA. OPPORUNTISTIC SCUM. I THINK YOU'RE LOOKING THE WRONG WAY.

Also, if that's the case and while I don't advocate test lynches, wouldn't this be an amazing lynch just because, if by chance King is town, that the scum on the wagon would be pretty obvious?

Reminder, I need to take a peek at CoolDog.

On the third point, nice deflection.

YOU ARE ANNOYING ME LADY.

Empking, if you read my posts, I've given my intent read on King. It's a town intent to question people who are on your wagon. I do not draw any conclusions about Toog's allignment from King's towniness.

It's more null then anything.

guys too much talking, lets get another wagon right now, lets vote furcolow

Town read just shot down.

unvote vote: furcolow.

I really want to assume that was a mistake that you forgot to put it in.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki, what was your reason to vote king?

Okay, now that we're here, if there's a town wagon at L-2, there's scum votes on it. Period. Who are they?

hiraki, plz answer this quesiton.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2948364

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p2948423

Not really sure, if I had to take a blank guess, CooLDog and bobsnox. I'll look into it though.

[Hiraki]

Oh. I was looking at the argument trying to see if it was a slip or something. I see what you mean now.

Unvote, Vote: bobsnox

See? MY RANDOM GUESSES ARE AMAZING.

[Hiraki]

THE BAIT?

HA.

HAHAHAHA.

GUYS, WE FELL FOR BOBSNOX'S TRAP CARD.

[Hiraki]

cooldog hasn;t posted enough for me to know what he belongs to, because none of his posts were inherently scummy. It's easier if he posts more so I can get more.

Kind of like you. I didn't like the beginning of that Toot case either. The end was valid, but the beginning disturbs me.

[Hiraki]

And why Raikiri? I'm very curious.

I should join a game with them in it

Raikiri is an alt.

[Hiraki]

Well, Alt name. I don't use it much anymore.

[Hiraki]

Papa Zito actually thought I was your alt for a while until [redacted] with both of us in it

<____<

>_____<

>_______>

Don't get me started.

However.

We should totally do a top secret hydra.

eheheheheheeehee

[Hiraki]

No, but the term "OH EMM GEEE. U SUCKKKKKKKKK" is an insult.

Oh
My
God
U
Suck

YES. IT WAS A TOTAL INSULT, AND I LAUGH AT YOUR PITIFUL AND MISERABLE EXSISTANCE.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

But seriously now, really?

I really want him dead next. Bobs just looks a bit better.

[Hiraki]

CooLDog is town btw guys.

Oh, LLD with the ninja.

Awesome.

GREYICE. ARE YOU DENYING THIS?

THIS WOULD BE THE FIRST READ I'D EVER DISAGREE WITH YOU ON(I THINK)

[Hiraki]

I'M SCUM HUNTING TOO.

BUT YOU GOTTA HAVE FUN TOO. ENJOY~ IT.

ALSO, I'VE BEEN CALLED A UK ALT, AND A HAYLEN ALT.

PROBABLY BECAUSE MY FIRST TWO GAMES WERE BASTARD MODS.

OH WELL.

R U A TRAGEDY ALT?

[Hiraki]

I have a question, what does all this talking about alts help the town? Really?

Uh... mostly I'm waiting for the inactives.

Me=Weird, Shattered Viewpoint, CJMiller, Furcolow, etc.

Basically the people I haven't seen posting.

That.

He flips town I'm voting you tomorrow. I just don't like how the wagon started and then everybody flocking to what ladylabda says is a good lynch

But you realize that humans aren't perfect, correct? I don't really care who you vote, but that's not truly fair. You could apply the same logic to bobsnox not being perfect either.

I mean, if I suggest that we lynch him, and him flips town. That doesn't mean that I'm town because him flipped scum. TBQH, it's in my view that this would a perfect opportunity to get a double town lynch, if executed twice.

So, from all this theorizing, I have concluded that CooLDoG is now slightly town.

P.E. YOU FUCKER. DID YOU HONESTLY HAMMER?

Ouch.

[Hiraki]

UGH. YOU KNOW, I CAN'T CALL EXE SCUM NOW.

THIS IS BULLSHIT. MY WHOLE SCUMPLAN JUST WENT OUT THE FUCKING DRAIN.

RAEGEEGEGGEE

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: Actually no, I take that first statement back because Exe was able to call 9 pages a content-rich page.

Me=Weird gave a lot of content, huh?

[Hiraki]

If you're mad at me for hammering, then you clearly aren't confident in your scum reads.

Bob has already responded to our suspicions with CRAP. I am not waiting around while he figures out something he can claim to save his ass.

You fucking dick.

We weren't waiting for Bob. Bob was already destined to die. I would unleash my insta-lynch powers of rage to do that.

We were waiting on the lurkers that aren't going to post D2 either.

P.E.

Bob didn't claim?

Oh. I thought he claimed VT. Mixing up games again, like usual.

Still TL's point stands.

P.E.Pt2

And CooLDoG's.

[Hiraki]

D1 being content-rich =/= all players being content rich. This comment makes absolutely no sense.

OKAY. BECAUSE 2 BWs IS VERY CONTENT RICH.

[Hiraki]

Again, content is NOT measured by bandwagons. Or lurkers. IT'S MEASURED BY CONTENT.

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

When you get content from the same people, toward the same people, you're going to get the same read most of the time.

However, if you get content from the same people toward different people, there's a good chance they'll slip, or make bad content. Therefore, the point is to ask different people different questions, for different opinions. With 5 people posting barely once or twice, there is no good reason why you should've hammered.

This is such a completely shit argument, you are shooting up my scummeter.

My

shit argument is the argument that everyone is making, with an added bonus of proving something that you said wrong.

I KNOW, PRETTY SHITTY.

[Hiraki]

Exe, Gang Member, brutally pitchforked Night 1.

NO. I'M KILLING WHOEVER DID THIS.

I still don't like how he danced around the Toog thing.

How did I dance around Toog? I'm pretty sure I called him town somewhere.

Like promised,

Vote: King

[Hiraki]

Toote doesn't seem that bad, to be honest. Maybe I'm just a bit tired, but I don't see what everybody sees that's horrible. I'll try again though the only thing that I saw that was bad, was just that last comment on Page 1. It felt a bit iffy to me.

Just this.

I called him town after reading TL's case. I stated that the last point was valid, but everything else was stretched. That's enough to keep him at neutral at least. Town because he's really not that bad.

King needs to die first anyway. No objections are allowed.

[Hiraki]

You're saying that like it isn't plausible.

Not to mention, that's RVS and should not be taken into account. You're just screwing with what scum was thinking. You don't want to think on things on how confirmed scum was thinking.

[Hiraki]

First off, why are you over-reacting.

Second off, why are you caring about Exe this much?

Third off, why are you defending King this much?

[Hiraki]

Funny how he voted Bob there.

Expert execution my companion.

Actually, King's questioning of the votes with no reason is the declared movement from the RVS by many people. All votes after his post were considered legit hunting. King immediately counter votes Exe. So apparently, that was all staged, is that what you are telling me?

My bad, you're right about that. I was thinking of a different vote.

Still the first statement still stands. You're thinking about this way too hard, and defending King way too hard.

I think one of you is required to die today.

This looks like distancing damage control to me.

Toog, Toog, Toog. You're annoying me.

You realize that even a mafia maestro as myself had Exe as town, before he did the quickhammer correct? I guess I'm scum as well?

Ha.

P.E.

WTF. PARAMA. EXPLAIN THIS ATROCITY.

NO MORE DISCUSSION UNTIL THIS NEW FUCKER PUTS UP A WALL THAT I LIKE. THEN WE CAN BW HIM ANYWAY. SOUNDS GOOD?

[Hiraki]

Wait what

I was talking about Shattered. It was a rage moment because he has one post from RVS. Kudos for spotting it(AKA: NOT BEING LAZY).

Still the first statement still stands. You're thinking about this way too hard, and defending King way too hard.

Occam's Razor for now. There is zero grounds to lynch King today imo.

Makes Grey look worse to me as well since His vote is for King, even after stating wanting to follow through on CooLDoG and Furculow yesterday.

There is grounds.

But interesting point. I'll look into it.

[Hiraki]

HA. YOU'RE TRYING TO SET UP A LYNCH ON ME.

I SEE WHAT YOU DOIN' FOOL.

Interestingly enough, now that we bring up scum voting others in RVS...

Who did King vote in RVS?

Ahh.

No, I'm not using that in my case. But I found it ironic.

Preview Edit:

Underlined is stuff bad about this post.

YOU ARE TAKING MY SARCASM TOO SERIOUSLY.

So, thats the reason you voted him at the start of the day then?

Are you calling him unreasonable in any way shape or form?

Because unless I am insane, I honestly feel he is of town alignment. And I highly doubt I am insane.

Y'know. Insane people don't know they're insane. They think they are sane.

You've given no proof, so I don't care.

I could go for pressure. Be fun stuff.

[Hiraki]

TheLonging, you're good at decoding my posts. Look at King's part on me where he underlines my points in #295, are those

all

sarcastic statements? GreyICE can take a crack at it too, just in case you think I'm trying to get my scumbuddy to help me.

lololol ice is also my scumbuddy so dis is stoopid.

Over-reacting would be me modkilling myself to prove that I am town (been there, done that).

WIFOM

So are you saying that you have suspected me, you just mentioned me as neutral previously on accident?

How does saying that I'm aware that you're trying to set up a lynch on me say anything about my views toward you. If you say I'm scum, I'm not going to call you scum back just because you called my scum, that's stupid.

Exe is the confirmed scum Hiraki says Toog needs to think about. The second post is two posts away from the first after Toog explains what the thinking stuff was about.

Okay King, I don't think you get it, so I'm going to make this

very clear

.

Exe has

3

posts before Twilight. One is his RVS vote, and one is his catch-up vote and hammer.

Without having any content in between, Exe is most definitely un-readable in terms of his actions. It was kind of/ sort of/ really obvious he was scum.

The majority of his posts are about the hammer, therefore, here's my conclusion.

EXE IS A BAD LEAD.

[Hiraki]

KING YOU DIE NOW.

[Hiraki]

Vote: Furcolow

So, I'm scum for "pushing CoolDog", but you're allowed to have him on the top of your big list?

Contradictions, ho!

Further, nice rolefishing you got there. "Has a vig come forward yet?"

Why would a vig claim? Why would town want the vig to claim?

I wasn't sure on you due to lack of content (and my bob read being wrong X( )

But now I'm sure. This is scum.

This isn't fair. The only thing remotely scummy here is the assumption of a vig, rather than an SK.

Eh. Actually now I was about to write why the first part was bad, but now I realize it is.

I'd like discussion please.

You also call for people's death's far to much.

It's not bad if you know who needs to die.

[Hiraki]

It's alright Furcolow, I get it.

[Hiraki]

unvote;
vote: kingtwelvesixteen

I thought Toogeloo had 2 votes on him, but I see GreyIce was just confirming their vote now

So you changed your vote to the larger wagon because it had more votes on it?

Not because it was more likely to be scum?

WUT

vote: Furcolow

WHOSE THE LARGEST WAGON NOW, SCUMBAG?

I don't like this.

You clearly skimmed over that post then. Also yes, that is classic Raikiriness King did in fact underline.

I've stopped skimming, tbqh.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP: MISTAKE ON MY PART

Aw, come on!
Stupid computer dumped my post, whatever.

Vote: Furcolow

For all those reasons listed and like 4 more I would have pointed out about the first post but I'm annoyed right now so.

He put Exe as leaning town, even though he flipped scum seems like the biggest thingy to me.

1) THESE REASONS BETTER NOT FUCKING SUCK. BECAUSE...

2)I'VE ALREADY MADE A POINT WHY THIS POINT IS ALREADY BAD.

[Hiraki]

Can you explain your CooLDoG and King read?

[Hiraki]

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 4#p2955934

Exe is the confirmed scum Hiraki says Toog needs to think about. The second post is two posts away from the first after Toog explains what the thinking stuff was about.

Okay King, I don't think you get it, so I'm going to make this

very clear

.

Exe has

3

posts before Twilight. One is his RVS vote, and one is his catch-up vote and hammer.

Without having any content in between, Exe is most definitely un-readable in terms of his actions. It was kind of/ sort of/ really obvious he was scum.

The majority of his posts are about the hammer, therefore, here's my conclusion.

EXE IS A BAD LEAD.

KIND OF DID.

[Hiraki]

That has nothing to do with claiming a town read on somebody who has flipped scum Hiraki.

Like literally nothing.

YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

WATCH THIS.

YOU CAN'T TRUST A TOWN READ ON SOMEONE WHO WASN'T SCUMMY UNTIL HE QUICKHAMMERED. HIS FIRST VOTE WASN'T BAD, IT WAS JUST A GOOD BW. BASICALLY, EXE IS NULL UNTIL HE GETS TO THE QUICKHAMMER PART. CALLING HIM SCUMMY AND/OR TOWNIE HAS NO APPLICABLE REASONING BECAUSE THERE IS NO REASON TO CALL HIM TOWN/SCUM AT THAT TIME. HE WAS NULL.

[Hiraki]

Now, I realize I was wrong about Exe, but I've been in a game with him where he hammered a lot as town, so that is what had me leaning. Has a vig come forth?

OKAY KING. WATCH THIS.

FURCOLOW HAS CALLED EXE LEANING TOWN FOR HAMMER. THAT'S IT.

While yes, you do have a point that I made a mistake on, here's the

BIG

problem.

WHY IS FURCOLOW SCUM FOR THIS?

[Hiraki]

The towntells in this post are two: not only me weird starts the game aggressively (she had no reasoning), he also starts with careless aggression (not I dont) which is something scum generally avoid in RVS.

That was his first post, and scum are always in RVS too. Your reasoning is very flawed.

Here's a good question.

Tajo, why did you call Furcolow Town on top, and then decided to quote your post about getting a BW on Furcolow, without editing it, on the bottom.

This seems like someone forgot what they said.

[Hiraki]

But you also dropped the Exe wagon with relative ease.

Anyway who is scum today tojo?

I dunno. He might've been walking his dog or something.

[Hiraki]

TAJO. FURCOLOW POINT RESPOND.

Nowish?

[Hiraki]

The towntells in this post are two: not only me weird starts the game aggressively (she had no reasoning), he also starts with careless aggression (not I dont) which is something scum generally avoid in RVS.

That was his first post, and scum are always in RVS too. Your reasoning is very flawed.

Here's a good question.

Tajo, why did you call Furcolow Town on top, and then decided to quote your post about getting a BW on Furcolow, without editing it, on the bottom.

This seems like someone forgot what they said.

You are free to disagree with my reasoning. I realize its not solid reasoning and its very subjective but it was enough for me to give him town status.

Re: good question, I think Furc is town for a critical action day 2 (posting a list without updates when its pretty obvious scum have talked at night).

I posted my post about the BW on Furc because it explains why I unvoted Exe and voted Furc (to get a competing wagon against king).

Ahh I see. I skimmed there.

[Hiraki]

Scum today: Longing.

Why.

Why did you ask this question?

[Hiraki]

Scum today: Longing.

Why.

Why did you ask this question?

Curiosity. Its his only scum read and most people see TL as borderline town. I want insight and to see his thought process because he is kind of tripped my scumdar. Why ask why Oo

Because in this game, Tajo gives piss logic. I don't see the point in asking him anything IMO.

Preview Edit:

Fuck. That's actually a nice case.

This just got interesting.

[Hiraki]

SEEEEEE. aha.

Something valuable.

JUST LUCKY.

[Hiraki]

But um TL.

You actually didn't. That's the problem.

[Hiraki]

EWBOP:

If your only reasoning for furc being town is HE CALLED EXE TOWN AFTER HE DIED, then you haven't played with him.

But um. I'm not going to use meta here. He's town.

[Hiraki]

But he admitted in the post after that he was wrong.

I don't think was stupidity as to actually post Twilight/Night 1 reads.

[Hiraki]

Great, then that point is dismissed and all my other points are valid.

But that's your only point.

Unvote, Vote: TheLonging

You're not acting the same.

[Hiraki]

I've played with furc. He can be this stupid. As town or scum.

It kind of is.

[Hiraki]

Baw. Nevermind.

[Hiraki]

It kind of is what? My only point?

See: above you

YOU POSTED TOO QUICKLY.

[Hiraki]

Unvote, Vote: King

I switched twice, the joke is not funny, and I am crying now. APOLOGIZE.

[Hiraki]

Sorry I'm scum, so I have to go for the easy lynch.

[Hiraki]

Sorry I'm scum, so I have to go for the easy lynch.

ALso, this isn't funny. I hate jokes in mafia. I have said that many times, and I have yet to find a case when a joke in mafia is funny.

You don't like my jokes? Leme tell you a little story.

Wanna know how I got these scars? My father, was a drinker...and a fiend. And one night, he goes off craaaazier than usual. Mommy gets the kitchen to defend herself. He doesnt like that. Not...one...bit. So, me watching, he takes the knife to her, laughing while he does it. He turns to me, and he says, "Why so serious?". Comes at me with the knife, "Why so serious?!". Sticks the blade in my mouth, "Let's put a smile on that face." Aaaand, why so serious?

[Hiraki]

Give me a reason why my votes havn't been justified

The vote in #24 is an oblivious OMGUS. You're voting someone for accusing you of something(which you are, but that's not the point). If I tell Slaxx that he has a giant bee on his head, he won't vote me because there isn't a bee on his head.

tl;dr: You've taken LaL

way

out of proportion and come off as inordinately jumpy, and ready to strike at any time.

I was just re-reading and I noticed that Hiraki claimed I was both OMGUSing and using Lynch-all-Liars simultaneously.
OMGUS is voting whoever voted you with no other reasoning for said vote.
LaL is voting due to the reasoning of lying.


Whoops, this was meant to be posted together with the other thing.

What's the point? It's still pretty fucking horrible.

[Hiraki]

Pine never likes me as town. It's a proven fact.

[Hiraki]

Hey, it's not my fault you're always scum. Blame the RNG, bro.

Never liked having things chosen in random.

Perhaps I'm scum on purpose! Yes, being scum in every game with you is my destiny!

Muahahaha.

[Hiraki]

So...does that make you a future psion?

Not sure what that means, but yes! Certainly!

[Hiraki]

^Scum for not getting reference.

/inbeforescumflip

Okay, I need to stop posting while drinking...this has drifted far from the productive.

Yes, but that's because no one else is posting. Therefore this is production while everyone else is doing other things.

What is psion anyway?

I'm reading TL's posts, and I'm starting to really like TL-Town, and Toog-scum.

However, King has been destined to die today, so he must.

[Hiraki]

It's Plurality lynching. No Majority is necessary.

Someone is getting lynched today. King is not the correct lynch.

You've given no good reason why this is the case. Therefore, I'm going to say that it is the correct lynch. Why am I right? Because I've already said more than enough on it.

[Hiraki]

Plus I can't shake the feeling Exe hammered to save King, for whatever misguided reason.

Nah. I wasn't going to change, so if he was, it was in vain. I think we can all agree on that one though.

[Hiraki]

Usually, I'm against Deadline Extensions for certain reasons. This bypasses all of them.

Vote: Deadline Extension

[Hiraki]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HudCIt-A ... D3CED3B4B2

[Hiraki]

Lady. What's your read on Toog?

[Hiraki]

This is why you should hammer.

[Hiraki]

Didn't see Slaxx's unvote.

[Hiraki]

Further, why do you want this wagon hammered so quickly? We're asking for a deadline extension aren't we?

I never did like them, and one of my causes for them is the reasoning that the person wouldn't be here. However, it is oblivious that King has said something, and therefore is here. I don't like leaving things up to chance, however I don't need to now that he's talked.

Unvote: Deadline Extension, if plausible

If King flips Town, something I'm seeing as more and more likely given that two of my scum reads are trying as hard as they can not to appear to be rushing the hammer, this post will be pretty damning in the Hiraki case.

So you mean the other 5(4, to be hypocrites) people on the wagon don't count now because I support it the most?

Oh okay! Sounds good!

How about you prove Kingtown, and I'll stop advocating the lynch? That sounds better.

P.E. make that 4(3) votes.

[Hiraki]

Unvote Vote: TheLonging.

why? was it the claim?

yep vanilla claim specially in quick games is pretty much an assured lynch.

So you're not lynching because claiming VI means that it's a mislynch now?

You disgust me.

[Hiraki]

TL is town so lolno Tajo.

You can prove people as town, just not 100% of course. However, you can't prove Kingtown because it's impossible, like he says.

I didn't notice anyone breaking the rules.

Also, I'd have switched over to Furcolow only if he had claimed Vig. I had a lurking suspicion he was vig.

[Hiraki]

Hey everyone, I'm very aware the lynch mechanic means shorterned days so I'll try to get through an entire re-read today, if there's anything particular you want me to look out for upon re-reading state so now.

KING AND BEING SCUMMY.

Oh and populartajo too.

[Hiraki]

I don't trust vigs. I don't think they like me now either.

[Hiraki]

UGH.

BELIEVING KING.

MUST RESIST TEMPTATION TO AGREE AND BW ON.

[Hiraki]

Nah, CooLDoG is right in the end. I'm good.

[Hiraki]

I have even less reason to believe that King is scum. Scum would not unvote the leading wagon to go off and be the sole vote on another player, and put himself in a tie with the player he just unvoted.


Activity suggests scum is trying to coast to a mislynch imo.

The leading wagon was King before Furclow. Furclow wasn't going anywhere.

[Hiraki]

But it opens the door for one vote for King or one unvote for Furc to change the lynch. Scum wouldn't take a 2 vote padding and change it to a 1 vote difference.


I still say both Furc and King are town, especially given activity levels.

If Furc flips scum, I'll be coming back to this quote. This is a rather shitty defense.

There's alot of quotes you could come back with Toog.

Toog, why are you defending practically everyone?

Nice snipe by tclawren.

Regfan replaced ShatteredViewpoint. Meh, I wish I could make more connections.

[Hiraki]

I need a re-read of D2, before I can go on. Gimme a few minutes.

[Hiraki]

Yeah, so Tajo's play has become quite annoying. I could do with his lynch, but have a greater preference on King.

Starting not to like LLD, not sure if I didn't like her, but her first D3 posts in defense of GreyICE are meeeh at best. I could support a pressure wagon. However, I don't think we need that, at least right now. LLDscum/town will come out, with or without pressure.

Eh... I don't see Tajo and TL as scum together.

I got the same King-town feeling as you did from reading those posts.

Notice how TheLonging goes from "Town" in the first list to "Unsure" in the second one? I'm thinking that was to sound a little less effusive about his buddy.

VOTE: TheLonging

Full case coming soon. I know I've been promising it, I'll follow through later.

Can we agree that if no one is, somehowingly, not willing to lynch King today, that we get rid of Tajo/TL? Even though King is somewhat confirmed in my eyes, I can listen to logic and reason. Like the rest of you meatbags.

I can agree on the validity of a SK roaming around, however, I like the Vigilante better. I can someone here being a vig, but no talkies, obviously.

Btw. I agree with ICE. I don't like Tajo's case. He's looking for literal things. In my head, that's scum trying to scumhunt without giving out any reasonable tells. They want to find scum, and they're trying to push everyone that this person is scum.

Y'know.

Like that used car salesman that's trying to sell you a replica of the Batmobile, only that it's obviously a truck.

And by the way, don't make me make a town case on TheLonging.

And Pine makes some very townie posts, so I think he's town.

Defense noted.

Oh who the hell knows. It'll probably be something odd, and I'm not playing the setup speculation game.

Agreed, especially because it's Parama though.

Fuck man. Playing mind games with Parama is not good for your head.

[Hiraki]

Hiraki: slight town read for activeness.

I'm not even

that

active.

[Hiraki]

And by the way, don't make me make a town case on TheLonging.

And Pine makes some very townie posts, so I think he's town.

Defense noted.

Did I miss something?

No, that was a bad on my part.

On my wall, unless there's something after it, it's QFT.

If there's something like "And Pine makes some very townie posts, so I think he's town", then it's being told to, like "Defense noted."

@Tajo: Fine. I'm not in for arguing why you think I'm town. I'm just saying, that's a really horrible reason to think anyone is town.

[Hiraki]

Defeat means that I can hop on now.

Unvote, Vote: Populartajo

Btw. I don't care what Tajo's flip is. There's no way I'm going on TL tomorrow. King needs to die next.

[Hiraki]

Its funny. All the people I called scum are attacking me strongly. This must mean something.

HI.

That sounds like a threat/command to lynch people. Also Cooldog and ICE are on your neutral list.

Also, why the fuck did you just want Furclow to claim? That's ULTRA-Scummy that you didn't want to lynch him, but you wanted him to claim. You realize this, no?

[Hiraki]

[Hiraki]

I was suspecting that it was the fastest to get their role P.M. dies first.