Open 290 - Double Day (Game Over)

[Twistedspoon]

oficially, yes

[Starbuck]

Vote Count

Apokalyptika - (6) bvoigt, Hero764, Hiraki, Nachomamma8, Nobody Special, Furcolow
Hiraki - (3) silverbullet999, Apokalyptika, twistedspoon,


Not Voting - Klazam, pod person, HackerHuck, Singersigner, Number58, ConfidAnon

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, April 26, at 8PM EST.

[Klazam]

All right. I'm confused. Bolded is your thoughts, correct, Apok? unbolded is what others say, correct?

If so, disregard my post on you. I misunderstood, then.

I highly doubt hiraki is scum. Would scum defend a scumbuddy even after a hammer? It was obvious Hiraki believed that the hammer was real.

All right. I'll look over my reads and see what i come up with.

[Twistedspoon]

I highly doubt hiraki is scum. Would scum defend a scumbuddy even after a hammer? It was obvious Hiraki believed that the hammer was real.

my theory is wifom exploitation

hikari knew scum wouldn't defend a scumbuddy on L-1 since it was almost inevitable that they'd be hammered, so he did so to look like he was a townie defending a town read the the last minute.

Simple wifom backtracing is my opinion and explains it

[Klazam]

Well, that applies for L-1, but would scum defend even after a hammer? I'm not so sure about that.

[Twistedspoon]

Well, that applies for L-1, but would scum defend even after a hammer? I'm not so sure about that.

exactly same logic

scum wouldn't do that, so scum did that

[Klazam]

It's interesting how it's possible to dismiss almost anything in mafia as WIFOM.

I'm choosing to believe that Hirkai is town in this game.

[Twistedspoon]

fine, i can respect that too

[Hiraki]

Guys apok seems to be truly scumhunting
I encourage you all to wagon elsewhere

HE'S FAILING TO ADDRESS WHY HE'S SCUMMY.

FFS. IF I COME IN A GAME, LURK UNTIL LYLO AND THEN START SCUMHUNTING, DOES IT REALLY MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE?

His argument is already horrible, if you guys haven't noticed.

Personally, I think we could lynch Hikari today, and if he flips town, seriously consider Apok the next day. His lynch is probably inevitable before lylo anyways

Yours is too, btw.

It's interesting how it's possible to dismiss almost anything in mafia as WIFOM.

I'm choosing to believe that Hirkai is town in this game.

Don't worry. Later I'll prove Twistedscum.

Then I will lead you all to the Springtime of Youth!

[Number58]

Vote Nobody Special

His vote on Apok makes it sound like he knows that Apok is going to flip as town, which is why he is lining up the lynch of me who was pushing Apok for a large amount of the first day. Even his vote or Merin sounds like it was made with the intention to lynch Apok the next day.

[Twistedspoon]

Don't worry. Later I'll prove Twistedscum.

just like how you said mer was town

honestly, I don't know what to think of your reads anymore. Mer was obvscum from long before his lynch

[Furcolow]

vote: Hiraki

fos: NS

[Hiraki]

Furcolow: You don't see anything suspicious with TS?

[pod person]

Hiraki you must be feeling pretty embarrassed right now. What do you have to say about all this?

The opposing side had a worse case.
That is all.

i am offended.

Hiraki, stop being such a pain! I'm FoSing ye.

Vote: Number58

Hiraki is scum

i don't think that any sane scum would defend their buddy as hard as hiraki did. regardless of what meran posted, i still think hiraki is town.

HIRAKI IS SO OBV SCUM WHY DO YOU ALL NOT SEE IT?

w/e I'm fine with Apok

unvote;
vote: Apok

I believe that's L-1

okay, i give you permission to lurk, and i want you to do so. you're just creating noise at this point. post nothing but votes and prod avoids. thanks in advance.

im still waiting for a response from hiraki.

Who knows if you'll get one.
Ooooo. I guess I'm being anti-town now.

okay, there is no way scum would post like this right after a buddy had flipped. anyone voting hiraki is being stupid.
ugh. 575. i am now lost.
argument #1: apok is desperately trying to avoid a lynch, in order to avoid there being only one scum left at the end of day 1, so posts content to try and save herself. therefore, apok is scum.
argument #2: apok, by posting this much in so little time, would basically be giving us a roadmap to her last scum partner if she still got lynched anyways. therefore, apok is town.
i cannot tell which one outweighs the other. i don't care about the content of her posts, but that she's posting like this is worrying.
however, my better judgment says that town benefits from apok's flip regardless of her alignment. if she's town, she's now given us everything she finds townie and scummy up to this point. though we wouldn't have to follow those reads to the point, it's nice to have the thoughts of a confirmed town. and if she's scum, well, then this game's in the bag. i'm not going to move my vote, and i see no reason not to lynch apok today. we're not playing for 100% accuracy, and i don't mind if i'm wrong about this read. i still feel apok is more likely to flip scum than town, but it's not as certain as before.
and actually, reading over those walls... lots and lots of iioa. after i finish this post, i'm going to go through apok's walls and see what they look like without any iioa at all. i expect much shorter posts and much less impressive posting.

I did read it, and I dislike you backtracking so easily
I feel like you are town, but you are just getting in the way, if you want to be honest.

go away. please.

wait.
i just realized something.

apok was lynched as of post 563. but starbuck missed my vote in 544. i don't really care if starbuck yells at me for not putting a vote on its own line. it's bolded so it should stand out anyways.

still going to truncate apok's walls, mostly for personal interest. don't know if the mods will count it as a lynch, though technically it should.

[pod person]

so i just realized that the bold part of apok's posts are the only "scumhunting" in any of the posts. saves me some time truncating. that's some pretty pathetic scumhunting, really.

[pod person]

1st lynch occured at post 542.

VOTE: Apokalyptica

vote: apok

VOTE: Apokalyptica

Vote: Apokalyptica

mod's votecount, 558:

Apokalyptika - (3) bvoigt, Hero764, Hiraki

i am positive that i didn't unvote.

VOTE: Apok

Vote: Apok

vote Apok

Vote: Apok

hammered by ns at post 563.

[Klazam]

crap. that's terrible.

IF Apok is lynched due to mod error, I wouldnt feel that is fair. Up to mod, i guess.

[silverbullet999]

I think pod's vost shouldn't count... cause it wasn't... formatted correctly... ?

[Starbuck]

mod: i voted meran at the bottom of 386, and there is no rule saying unvotes are required.

If you are going to vote, please put it on it's own line and not in the middle of a sentence. Hence, why I missed it.

Stepho, can you edit my vote count to reflect this?

Pod person, this is the second time that you haven't placed a vote on its own line after being specificially asked to do so via the above post (#399). It's very easy for mods to miss a vote if it's not on it's own line, especially if we are just skimming the posts for votes. I asked you to do this to avoid a situation JUST LIKE THIS. Not following simple instructions is a hindrance to your fellow mafia players.

Thank you for pointing out the lynch (which I'm about to go back and double check), but it's definitely in your hands that your vote was missed. I have a 3-strike and you're out rule, if this happens again, I will be suggesting to Stepho to have you replaced.

Going back to do a recount now.

[Klazam]

Due to that missed vote and the official mod post, I was misled into believing that my vote would be the L-2 vote.

If it would have been the L-1 vote I would not have voted.

So I'm in favor of having that vote simply not count.

[Starbuck]

Please hold off on posting until I get some input on this situation. Stepho is gone for the weekend.

[Starbuck]

After discussing things with the List Mod, the lynch will count.

Day 1 Final Vote Count

Apokalyptica - (8) bvoigt, pod person, Hero764, Hiraki, Twistedspoon, Nacho, Klazam, Nobody Special
Hiraki - Furcolow

Not Voting - silverbullet999, Apokalyptika, HackerHuck, singersigner, ConfidAnon, Number58

The guests of the Doubleday Hotel felt really good about finding a Mafia Goon yesterday. Hoping for a repeat, the crowd turned their eyes to Apokalyptika. They insist he was in cahoots with Meransiel. Apokalyptika pleads for his life, but it is to no avail.

Apokalyptika,

Townie

, was lynched Day 1.

It is now Night 1.

[Starbuck]

I can't believe I have to say this, but it has to be said.

If you do not make your votes apparent or do as requested with your vote by the mod or back-up mod, it will not be counted.

If the counter argument is that this request isn't in the rules, I can guarantee you that Stepho will have no problem adding it to the rules after this issue.

If you have any questions, please PM myself or Stepho and keep it out of the thread. Reminder that Stepho is away for the weekend and probably won't see your PM until Sunday night or Monday.

Also, I do not have locking powers, please refrain from posting.

[Stephoscope]

The deadline for night actions is Tuesday, April 12th at 8PM EST.

[Stephoscope]

The guests of the Doubleday Hotel wake at dawn and head to the complimentary breakfast. It looks like everyone is there...but wait, what about that guy who had a funny way of casting votes? Suddenly, over the sizzle of frying bacon and the soft music of Enya playing on the stereo, a bloodcurdling shriek from a horrified maid is heard from room 13...

DrBokchoy

pod person,

Townie

, killed Night 1

Day 1.5 has begun!

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.
I will have to modkill HackerHuck if I cannot find a replacement by the end of this real-life week.