Metropolis: Revisited [Game Over]

[StrangerCoug]

Why do I want to chew out half the game or so?

[Baby Spice]

We must decide, as a group, that we are only going to strike one of two people today.

Good. Everyone choose. Toog or Moi.
Case to follow. Must go to happy hour.

STRIKE : MAGNAOFILLUSION

I fully endorse this strike, but wish you had struck his IC buddy Toog instead.

[camn]

One of the two is fine.
I wanna see which one people choose.

[Kast]

WTF Toog? If this wasn't a semi-open game, I'd guess you're a Jester. Is your plan "fuck the town as much as possible til they're too dumbstruck to retaliate"?

I really wanted to lynch my top suspects, but if this is what we have to deal with for the rest of the game, then fine, I'll accept a Toog lynch to prevent that.

That said, I'm still down for a Friend/Xalxe lynch, or one of LLD/SC.

Btw, Camn is almost as bad as Toog. She was whining about getting a working system, then goes and ignores all that.

@Kage/MoI/Toog-
Right, limitation might be on when the kill is revealed instead of made. I'm just not seeing the point behind DSK waiting until L-1 for the kill to appear as opposed to L-3 or L-4, when it's already been decided and just gives town a chance to roleblock scum.

@Hrezs-
You didn't answer my question.

[camn]

Whining?
I proposed working out a strategy.
People wanted to cock-block.

So now I am back to my normal method: blood.

Is that hard to understand? I happen to be as town as they come. Your FACE is whining. I ignore nothing.

Now choose.

[Bunnylover]

I don't know, im almost tempted to strike LLD since previous days everyone else got to strike their scum reads.

[Toogeloo]

Here is where the "Must Strike" mentality fucks with town.

Who folds and decides to just strike those already struck? Does scum hunting end... etc.. etc... etc....


See, people are afraid that if they try to go any other direction, then no one will get lynched, and yet everyone bitches that (despite only a low number of strikes having been made thus far) one of the people struck must be the lynch for the day.


Personally, I would advocate lynching one of me or ABR (preferring ABR of course), because it's been a lingering cloud over everyone's heads for 3 days now, but no one wants to do anything about it. It's like 2 Millers claiming on Day 1 and no one wants to touch either of them. Before you know it, we are in LyLo, and both are still alive. In this particular situation, ABR leeched himself onto me on Day 1, linking us, which means that so long as both of us are alive, we both hinder the town's reads.

Obviously, striking ABR for me means that I do think he is scummy, but it's double edged. If he flips anything other than Inner Circle Town or DaySK, people will probably think we were bussing each other, or that I was mislynching a townie (depending on whatever he flips). Since we have had the NSK and two scum killed so far, this is the best time for this to happen imo.

[StrangerCoug]

Here is where the "Must Strike" mentality fucks with town.

Who folds and decides to just strike those already struck? Does scum hunting end... etc.. etc... etc....


See, people are afraid that if they try to go any other direction, then no one will get lynched, and yet everyone bitches that (despite only a low number of strikes having been made thus far) one of the people struck must be the lynch for the day.

THANK YOU!!!

[Baby Spice]

MoI is IC, Toog is IC, ABR is possibly IC.

Lynch MoI or Toog, IC get removed then we can hunt the 'normal' scum using more 'normal' methods.

Why do anything else this day?

[StrangerCoug]

MoI is IC, Toog is IC, ABR is possibly IC.

Lynch MoI or Toog, IC get removed then we can hunt the 'normal' scum using more 'normal' methods.

How do you know that lynching one Inner Circle member will automatically get rid of the other two? We asked the mod about this earlier and he refused to answer.

[Baby Spice]

Because anything else is totally unbalanced.

This is not a bastard mod so I doubt anyone will suddenly change wincon, and there's nothing else to really stop any surviving IC's from just screwing with the game.

But to really be sure, lynch MoI or Toog.

[StrangerCoug]

There's certainly a mechanism in place to prevent a game break, but still...

[Toogeloo]

Let me pose a few things at you BS.


If I am Inner Circle, what is my motivation for striking ABR today? If ABR is Inner Circle, we lose the game. If he is Scum, wouldn't he have struck me first if he suspected me of being Inner Circle? If he is Town, would I really want that much attention as Inner Circle? I want to know why you think I am Inner Circle so badly, and how you came to that conclusion, and do you think it matches my actions through the game as a whole.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I wonder...

Does anyone else get the feeling that Baby Spice is scum, and that she is pushing for a Toogaloo lynch because she suspects him of being the IC in her faction?

[StrangerCoug]

I wonder...

Does anyone else get the feeling that Baby Spice is scum, and that she is pushing for a Toogaloo lynch because she suspects him of being the IC in her faction?

The possibility exists. So you think Baby Spice is bussing Toogeloo?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I wonder...

Does anyone else get the feeling that Baby Spice is scum, and that she is pushing for a Toogaloo lynch because she suspects him of being the IC in her faction?

The possibility exists. So you think Baby Spice is bussing Toogeloo?

Not bussing. They are different factions.

Or at least, Baby Spice thinks they are.

Baby Spice is under the assumption that Toog is an IC member.

I am implying they are both in the same scum team.

Thus, I am also implying that Baby Spice suspects Toog of being the mole in her scum team.

[StrangerCoug]

Mentally split up the IC members. I see what you're talking about now.

[Baby Spice]

I'm pushing a Toog lynch because that strike on MoI looks super suspicious now that AGM has flipped scum and MoI looks incredi scum from post 27 and 28, the attacks on Wraith for not wanting to break a game.

I struck Toog because ABR did, because I'm not 100% sure that ABR is IC, and because two votes on Toog sure as hell beats one vote on Toog and one vote on MoI.

To sumerise, AGM and MoI's posts looked incredibly sus to me at the time, AGM fliped scum which makes me damn sure that MoI is scum.
Toog's strike on MoI looked funny. I think the idea was kindof good, but the targeting was 'funny'. MoI comming up scum due to AGM's flip makes it really look like Toog was bussing, and ABR's 'ignore the idot' stuff was also probably bussing.
The IC team can bus, they don't have toworry about traitors and have a good handle on what 6 of the other players are thinking (via scum chats)
AGM and MoI hardly mention each other at all, and the scum teams can't bus due to the worry of traitors as any bussing will look traitorus.

Ergo, AGM MoI scum buddies. MoI and Toog IC buddies.

and No LLD, I suspect Toog, strongly with an absolute certainty suspect MoI and Toog of being scum IC's

It pure logic and extrapolation.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I'm pushing a Toog lynch because that strike on MoI looks super suspicious now that AGM has flipped scum and MoI looks incredi scum from post 27 and 28, the attacks on Wraith for not wanting to break a game.

I struck Toog because ABR did, because I'm not 100% sure that ABR is IC, and because two votes on Toog sure as hell beats one vote on Toog and one vote on MoI.

To sumerise, AGM and MoI's posts looked incredibly sus to me at the time, AGM fliped scum which makes me damn sure that MoI is scum.
Toog's strike on MoI looked funny. I think the idea was kindof good, but the targeting was 'funny'. MoI comming up scum due to AGM's flip makes it really look like Toog was bussing, and ABR's 'ignore the idot' stuff was also probably bussing.
The IC team can bus, they don't have toworry about traitors and have a good handle on what 6 of the other players are thinking (via scum chats)
AGM and MoI hardly mention each other at all, and the scum teams can't bus due to the worry of traitors as any bussing will look traitorus.

Ergo, AGM MoI scum buddies. MoI and Toog IC buddies.

and No LLD, I suspect Toog, strongly with an

absolute certainty suspect MoI and Toog of being scum IC's

It pure logic and extrapolation.

Bolded. How can you determine they are SCUM IC's, when your only case on them being IC is that they are "bussing eachother"?

You wouldn't be able to determine that unless you were scum with one of them.

Namely, the one you struck earlier, TOOG.

[KageLord]

I wonder...

Does anyone else get the feeling that Baby Spice is scum, and that she is pushing for a Toogaloo lynch because she suspects him of being the IC in her faction?

I was actually getting the feeling BS might be IC scum. Whether pushing Toog is trying to lynch town (unlikely, I think) or trying to get rid of another member of BS's scum team or trying to get rid of a member BS's IC-buddy's scum team, I'm not sure. Then again, your theory is not without merit either.

I still don't get why BS doesn't understand that Toog and ABR are highly unlikely IC-buddies. IC strike-bussing (as opposed to our pseudo-vote-bussing) each other is about the worst plan I have ever heard.

Still... VOTE: ABR

[camn]

Ps. Right now the mafia all know who the IC is on their own team.
So they need to get them lynched.
And the IC-scum need to get their scumpartner lynched. Because they know that they know now, so they can't use the cross-kill again.



Just so you all realize.

[Baby Spice]

Ever heard of deductive reasoning? Going back and looking at people?

Hell, I wrote them into my notebook as IC's about a month ago.

Ever heard of things that stick out like dog balls?

and if you actually think I'm part of a scum faction outing an IC member, why haven't you struck?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Ever heard of deductive reasoning? Going back and looking at people?

Hell, I wrote them into my notebook as IC's about a month ago.

Ever heard of things that stick out like dog balls?

and if you actually think I'm part of a scum faction outing an IC member, why haven't you struck?

Yeah! Let's create a 4th wagon today, without knowing if it would has any support or be a viable lynch.

You don't understand the important of planning our wagons as town, do you?

Also, your "deductive reasoning" sucks. Which is why I'm assuming you have insider info that only a scumz0r could have, to make these reasonings.

[Baby Spice]

Hi Scum.

I assume you're scum since I struck on the first wagon of the day, Toog, whom I now assume is your scum budy given your defense of him, and that you think your scum IC is someone else.
I also assume your scum for automatically assuming I have insider info on Toog.
How about you just tell us who you suspect for that dubious honour?

Ok, for those out there who didn't see what you did there LLD.

If you think I'm part of a scum faction outing an IC member why haven't you struck yet? You know, the person you claim I am outing from insider knowledge? No mention there of starting a fourth wagon but you obviously thought to try scare tactics of some sort.

Strike Toog, Strike MoI. Lynch on of them, because by not doing so you are admitting you don't think I'm scum despite your claim to the contrary.

In Summary, LLD. Hi Scum.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

So wait... You've said nothing about me ALL GAME.

But now that I apply the slightest pressure to you, and show signs of opposing your plans/theories, that makes me scum?

Baby Spice's amazing deductive reasoning strikes again!