Newbie 1046: Game Over

[hurristat]

Right now, Nocmen is looking more like scum than NS, due to Zachrulez's actions, but I'm finishing up Day 2. I'll be caught up soon.

[hurristat]

In his iso 3, he calls both nikitakit (now Nocmen) and himself inactive and obviously needing to post more.

Wait, wait, wait. How do you know that Nikitakit was town?

[hurristat]

EBWOP: I meant to quote this: "In his iso 3, he calls both nikitakit (now Nocmen) and himself inactive and obviously needing to post more. I highly doubt that a mafioso would lump themselves in with a townie like this, so that's a Town Point for hurri."

[Nobody Special]

I wrote that after zach was lynched; there was only one mafioso left; if you were mafia then Nocmen would be town. But I firmly believe it's the other way around.

Make sense?

[hurristat]

I wrote that after zach was lynched; there was only one mafioso left; if you were mafia then Nocmen would be town. But I firmly believe it's the other way around.

Make sense?

Somewhat.... but the fact that there's no doubt in your statement makes me a bit curious. I'll probably take a few more hours to mull over the vote before voting.

[hurristat]

Okay, here goes...

*crosses fingers*

Vote: Nobody Special

[Nobody Special]

Shit.

[GLaDOS]

Day Five Vote Count #3

2 Nobody Special (Nocmen, hurristat)
1 Nocmen (Nobody Special)

With

3

alive it takes

2

to lynch. Deadline is April 11, at 11:59 pm CDT.

[GLaDOS]

Nobody Special, Townie has been lynched!

hurristat, Townie, has been endgamed!

Nocmen, Mafia Goon, Survives and Wins along with Zachrulez, Mafia Goon!

[GLaDOS]

random.org results

Set-Up: #4 [2 Goons, 1 Doctor, 6 Townies]

AwesomePoe: Role #9 (Townie)
chkflip: Role #1 (Mafia Goon)
Ghostlin: Role #3 (Doctor)
hurristat: Role #5 (Townie)
Minoscum: Role #8 (Townie)
nikitakit: Role #2 (Mafia Goon)
StefanB: Role #4 (Townie)
Thestatusquo: Role #7 (Townie)
tj94: Role #6 (Townie)

Night Actions

Night One: Mafia kills StefanB; Doctor protects StefanB
Night Two: Mafia kills Ghostlin; Doctor protects Haylen
Night Three: Mafia kills StefanB
Night Four: Mafia kills Haylen

[StefanB]

Congratulation Nocmen and Zachrules, exspecially Nocmen you were the one of the three survivors that I thought was very townie. So the connections between Chkflip and Deer bzw NS and Zach were all confidence?

[Haylen]

I was right with my theory that the replacements were both mafia Good game though.

[Zachrulez]

I was right with my theory that the replacements were both mafia Good game though.

I can tell you that getting the mafia pm took me by surprise.

[Zachrulez]

Anyway, this looked like a pretty clear case of the original scum team losing interest after the doc protect. Upon replacing in we quickly identified Ghostlin as the doc and set about killing him and StephanB (to eliminate the confirmation trail, with enough reading, town could deduce he was the protection.) From there it was hoping to play NS and Haylen off each other, but Nobody Special's unpredictability ruined that. Thankfully Nocmen pulled it out in the end. YAY.

[StefanB]

How did you deduce that Ghostlin was the doc?
Btw: I realised who was protected by Ghostlin at the beginning of day 3, but didn't find a way to post that, that would have helped town. I was as subtil as a sledgehammer to get town realise that. Was to subtile.
And then nolynch without much discusion, not the best idea.
Funny as hell, Zachs "You don't belive Town killed WIR alone, without mafia" (just from my memory to leazy to look what he realy wrote), we did really do that.
Sorry to AwesomePoe for lynching him, that we completly my mistake.
But while loosing is somethink that is never somethink you want that was a good first game, thanks all.
Interesting enough was the going from Haylen = townfeeling to a lot of Haylen is scum on 3rd day. It came out of nowhere.

Haylen you want some feedback on your ICPerformance for that bet with the other ICs. How should we give that feedback.

[Nocmen]

I can post the scum QT if Zach's okay with it.

We thought Ghsot was the doc because N1 the kill was made on Stefan. Ghost had a very high town read of him, as opposed to hurri and or Haylen who had doubts about him. Didn't sound like someone who would protect him.

We also greatly considered doing a cop claim, and I was worried near the end that mistake cost us. I made a couple possible crumbs, but I didn't feel I could pull off the fake claim enough.

As for the no lynch, I think that's the proper point in a MyLo situation.

[Ghostlin]

I can post the scum QT if Zach's okay with it.

We thought Ghsot was the doc because N1 the kill was made on Stefan. Ghost had a very high town read of him, as opposed to hurri and or Haylen who had doubts about him. Didn't sound like someone who would protect him.

We also greatly considered doing a

cop claim

, and I was worried near the end that mistake cost us. I made a

couple possible crumbs

, but I didn't feel I could pull off the fake claim enough.

As for the no lynch, I think that's the proper point in a MyLo situation.

The bolded is why I balked at the AP lynch Day 2: that and his really non specific claim made me think there was a possiblity he might have been softclaiming Cop. That and the Back to the Future reference. I acutally saw the Night 2 Kill coming when I asked myself, 'If I was scum, who would I kill? Fuck, it's me, isn't it?'

Stefan stuck his neck out Day 1, was one of the most vocal players of town. I figured he'd be the best protect target.

Day 2 I protected Haylen mostly because I figured if I was right about Zach, the scumteam might kill her as an alternate to me.

[Nocmen]

With the way haylen and zach acted towards each other, I didn't see any reason to kill her until after Zach died. Because while he was alive, I was pretty convinced he could help lead a mislynch on her if we needed to. After he died, I had no choice but to kill her, as she was 1. the most town player left, and even I mentioned that in a crumb for a possible cop claim, and 2. I really didn't want to have her in endgame.

[StefanB]

Nocmen:

Ghost had a very high town read of him, as opposed to hurri and or Haylen who had doubts about him.

You mean the same Haylen that declared I was town on day 1 right?

The funny think is that I thought Hurristat was a powerrole (that was the reason I didn't push for his lynch and that I was never sure if Mafia or town)

Ghostlin:

That and the Back to the Future reference. I acutally saw the Night 2 Kill coming when I asked myself, 'If I was scum, who would I kill? Fuck, it's me, isn't it?'

I still doesn't understand why tbtFreference was a reason pro AP.
Yes sorry I know before that Mafia would kill you on night 2, olso, if you weren't the night 1 kill, the doc protected.
Sorry for not making much of the chance of a second life.

Nocmen: NL without a discusion is a good idea, exspecially if you know who is going to be nightkilled?
Okay one of the reason why I was against the NL was that I knew that Ghostlin protected me (His twilight post), but exspecially because of NS I was no fan of NL.

[Nocmen]

Nocmen:

Ghost had a very high town read of him, as opposed to hurri and or Haylen who had doubts about him.

You mean the same Haylen that declared I was town on day 1 right?

I'm going over what was said in our QT. I don't know what that was referring to, but something said Haylen had doubts about you?

[Zachrulez]

Funny as hell, Zachs "You don't belive Town killed WIR alone, without mafia" (just from my memory to leazy to look what he realy wrote), we did really do that.

An all town lynch on day 1 is rare, but does happen. I was hoping that fact would work in our favor.

[Zachrulez]

I can post the scum QT if Zach's okay with it.

http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/knZD7CaRd464

Oh nice, new look quicktopic.

[hurristat]

dang it. well, I tried

*cries*

I probably won't be playing any more games on mafiascum. this one was, eh.... a bit too much.

[Nocmen]

dang it. well, I tried

*cries*

I probably won't be playing any more games on mafiascum. this one was, eh.... a bit too much.

You had a really really good game, especially near the end. You played a very good town game in the last few days.

[hurristat]

Oh, and all those mistakes I made:

1) asking about L-2
2) I didn't know that congratulating the doc was considered as doc-hunting
3) getting confused about the setup

those were all legitimate mistakes. they didn't matter in the end, but still