The Mafia with the Hydras - Game Over!

[Profane Confusion]

I'm still thinking town wrt gummybear. the willingness to self-hammer is making me feel more sure about that. gummybear: you need to place your vote somewhere. self-hammering is stupid when there's certainly viable wagons that are still available before deadline. Finally, unicornbrethren why have you waited so long to put that vote down? why aren't you doing anything in general? - incog

[YosFlavouredCayke]

YFC's interactions with Fonzi even call out Fonzi for ignoring them.

Oh YFC... what do you think of ol' Fonz Fonz ignoring you right now? You seemed to drop it, despite keeping a record of every little thing DaSpot has done.

I was unhappy with Fonz, and starting to wonder about his alignment, when he was seemingly ignoring everything I said, even posts specifically directed to him about Froggy, while his vote on Froggy.

His posts since then, though, have struck me as pretty pro-town.

[YosFlavouredCayke]

I agree that Yosarrian's actions do seem oddly like trying to establish connections before a flip. His connection between daSpot and Gummybear ("daSpot's defense of Gummybear is bad...so they're both scum") seems rushed and ill-thought out. I think that trying to apply the same calculus to UB's "NEIGH THEY ARE SCUMBUDDIES" is reaching.

Not really a matter of trying to establish connections. But I do try and figure out if someone could possibly be part of any plasuable scumgroup before I vote them, especally when I have a number of people I have strong pro-town feelings on line I do this game. Like how in my most recent analysis of everyone in the game, I mentioned Balam was not likely to be scum because I couldn't see him as partners with any of my main suspects.

I mean, there is always the possibility I'm just wrong about everything and everyone, but I don't think so.

[YosFlavouredCayke]

Anyway, jftr, I'm not going to let this day end in a no-lynch (the LAST thing we need is to go into tommorow having no more information then we have now, ugh.) So if there's any reason why I shouldn't hammer Gummy, someone needs to say so. And soon; I can't promise I'll be around right up until deadline, so I may have to hammer earlier.

[GummyBear]

I am going to be leaving in approximately 1 hour. If there's no hammer and my wagon is still viable, I'll drop it.

Fonz: ... sorry that it's not good enough for you? "halfway to lynch" means mostly nothing, when halfway is still L-3. I'd rather be hopeful for an FES lynch than a Daspot lynch, and my vote being on either one is no more than being hopeful at this point.

[GummyBear]

My thing I'm supposed to be leaving for may have just been canceled. Hammerdrop may be unnecessary at the current moment.

[Yosarian2]

Still here. Still willing to hammer. *twiddles thumbs*

Was kind of hoping we'd see some informative last minute action going on before deadline, but that's seeming less likely. I'm not even sure if there's enough people online to do anything right now.

[GreyICE]

YFC's interactions with Fonzi even call out Fonzi for ignoring them.

Oh YFC... what do you think of ol' Fonz Fonz ignoring you right now? You seemed to drop it, despite keeping a record of every little thing DaSpot has done.

I was unhappy with Fonz, and starting to wonder about his alignment, when he was seemingly ignoring everything I said, even posts specifically directed to him about Froggy, while his vote on Froggy.

His posts since then, though, have struck me as pretty pro-town.

Well since you're here Yos, comment on this for me:

What gives you a pro-town feeling from Fonz?

He wants to lurker lynch, which is at best neutral, he pushes Gummybear right up until a wagon shows up then he panics, and his response to Llamarble was just lolz.

Specifics on why he's a town read.

[Profane Confusion]

If this is what this game's gonna be like I want my money back.

greymarble: how much sense would it make for a hypo fonzi-scum to bus his hypothetical buddy at this point when other viable wagons have been out there? if you think fonzi is scum shouldn't their vote make you cold about the gummy-wagon?

I'm assuming you're Greymarble, GreyICE?

[Frogito Ergo Sum]

Stop! Hammertime.

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Unvote, vote: Gummybear

[Greymarble]

Shit yeah, I'm your local hydra disaster.

*crosses fingers*

YFC's interactions with Fonzi even call out Fonzi for ignoring them.

Oh YFC... what do you think of ol' Fonz Fonz ignoring you right now? You seemed to drop it, despite keeping a record of every little thing DaSpot has done.

I was unhappy with Fonz, and starting to wonder about his alignment, when he was seemingly ignoring everything I said, even posts specifically directed to him about Froggy, while his vote on Froggy.

His posts since then, though, have struck me as pretty pro-town.

Well since you're here Yos, comment on this for me:

What gives you a pro-town feeling from Fonz?

He wants to lurker lynch, which is at best neutral, he pushes Gummybear right up until a wagon shows up then he panics, and his response to Llamarble was just lolz.

Specifics on why he's a town read.

[Greymarble]

It's me and Llamarble btw.

I could sign my posts, but frankly, 95% of this hydra's posts are effectively signed by the massive difference in posting styles

[TheButtonmen]

The "Nightfall" Vote Count:

Gummybear (6): LordFonzi, Balam, Final Destination, DaSpot, Greymarble, FrogErgoSum

FrogErgoSum (2): Gummybear, Profane Confusion
DaSpot (1): YosFlavouredCayke,
Copper (1): Unicorn

Not Voting (1): Copper,

That's a lynch.

[TheButtonmen]

Gummybear the Vanilla Townie

has been lynched.

Night 2 starts now and ends April 12th @ 19:00 EST

[TheButtonmen]

Sorry for the delay I was helping somebody move tonight and it ran longer then expected, night ends in about an hour.

[TheButtonmen]

Greymarble the Vanilla Townie

has been killed!

Welcome to Day Three.

Deadline is May 1st @ 19:00 EST

[Unicorn Brethren]

Vote: Frogito Ergo Sum

obv scum is obv

[Lord Fonzi]

Hi guys. This head was absent for the last few RL days of day two, but I have the following observations:

1) Yesterday makes FD look an awful lot worse to me. I had them town based on getting angry in reaction to what he claimed to see as a stupid wagon on him, which I find to be a towntell, but the fact that they basically parked their vote on FES all day, going 'OMG obvscum' and lurking in such a way that meant they really didn't comment on anyone else, but then didn't fight for the FES wagon when an actually viable counterwagon sprung up- in fact, joined that counterwagon, just leaves a horrible taste in my mouth. Could see that as distancing, or as simply being indifferent as to which of FES and Gummy die.

2) In response to Yos' critique of my FES suspicion, the tunnel on FD just looked really fake to me. As I'd noted before, they weren't particularly anti-FD before a wagon sprung up, then after there was one they acted like FD was the most obvious scum in the world. It just didn't ring true to me. I feel like they decided to tunnel afterward to make their initial hop look less opportunistic, and no, I don't give a shit about your meta, frankly. As I found when I did the meta analysis, CES does that as scum too. As for the 'not joining the SVT wagon' point, I think that is explained by the 'fake tunnel' theory: it's hard to look like you're tunneling if you're voting someone else.

3) Balam and FES are not both scum. Just find it really, really hard to see why Balam wouldn't have done what he did earlier, without putting FES in position to be hammered first, if he were a buddy.

3) I haven't got a fucking clue what Greymarble was on about with 'panicked when a wagon sprung up' since it seems quite obvious our posts there suggested no lack of enthusiasm for a gummylynch whatsoever.

4) On FES specifically, obviously gummy flipping town blows the 'Gummy and FES are partners because Gummy keeps saying he suspects FES but won't vote them' part of my FES scum case out of the water. In addition, FD looking scummier also muddies it, because I was convinced that the L-2 vote FES placed on FD was a blatantly opportunistic hopping on, and if FD is scum, that can't be true.

5) Can people stop calling this hydra 'Fonz' especially when it is obviously Gurgi posting, ie the end of yesterday?

6) I want to know why UB thinks FES is obvscum now, but was willing to leave the wagon to go solo on copper yesterday. That makes little sense to me.

[DaSpotthatkillsu]

Vote: FES

Maybe you guys will listen to us now?

[Profane Confusion]

vote: Frogito Ergo Sum

I'd like to see a claim. Not really sure how FES escaped without providing one Yesterday. I'd also like to use this Day to get better reads on my jumbled up peeps.

Lord Fonzi, you used 3 twice. Also could you elaborate more on why FD looks worse after Yesterday? I'm not really seeing that right now. Finally, 6 seems fairly obvious, but I guess we can wait for the fairly mute Unicorn to answer on their own behalf.

[Profane Confusion]

And that was me, Incog, btw.

[Unicorn Brethren]

Nobody wants to lynch Copper with us, so we are going with the next-most-popular wagon, who has weaseled his way out of a lynch too many times.

[Profane Confusion]

Unicorns, did you guys ever confirm your complete identities? Also, who is Copper made up of?

- Incog

[Lord Fonzi]

Lord Fonzi, you used 3 twice.

And you point this out because...

Also could you elaborate more on why FD looks worse after Yesterday? I'm not really seeing that right now. Finally, 6 seems fairly obvious, but I guess we can wait for the fairly mute Unicorn to answer on their own behalf.

Sure. You're town, your top suspect is at L-1, someone else on the wagon and unvotes him and moves to another player who had a vote on him already. Do you a) Try to dissuade people from the counterwagon, re-iterating why the original target is still scummy or b) join the counterwagon?

The following posts were made consecutively:

WE"RE STICKIN TO FES

AND HE NEEDS TO BE LOCKED INT A CLAIM/HAMMERED.

LIKE WEVE BEEN SAYING FOR WHAT FEELS LIKE WEEKS.

Unvote:
Vote: Gummybear

HEheh

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EHAHEHAEHAEHHAEHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA


"You guys cant lynch me I wasnt a main wagon all today >_>
<_<"

LYNCH IT WITH FIRE BABY

[NO ONE APPROVED]

[Unicorn Brethren]

Final Destination can also be lynched at any time.

As can Copper.