Mini 1138 - Candy Zoo Mafia (Game Over!)

vezokpiraka · Post Post #850 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:34 am

Ah sorry not doing the stuff I promised but my birthday is tomorrow and my birthday party was yesterday. I promise I'll do it next week or so when I have a holiday.

Stels · Post Post #851 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:50 am

Ho~ Votes for me, thinking that I'm an easy lynch. Go ahead make a case. Oh what's that? No case? Amazing.
@Zyrc: yet you don't proceed to do anything about it. What a man you are.
@Hoppster: Misrepping? Really now? Oh, I'm sorry, it's not my fault that his vote is actually being useless, with it being on Nobody Special who hasn't moved from L-4. My bad. And since he can't do anything but keep his vote on him, why not bother to pursue other targets? Did you ever think of that? Opportunistic scum is opportunistic, thanks Hoppster, you scum you.
@Crazypianist:

crazypianist1116 wrote:VOTE: Stels
Lol quotes cut out of context. I want my vote somewhere, and that was quite obviously the scummiest thing on this page compounded with poor play elsewhere.
I want a response to my question Hazard.
I'll ISO TT soon; I've been getting some scummy vibes from him.
@Hoppster: I hate your sig.

Oh, nice reason to justify your vote. You want your vote somewhere, SO WHY NOT VOTE YOUR SCUM SUSPECT? OH WAIT? WHAT'S THAT? YOU HAVE NONE YOU PRICK. Scum don't know who to vote and you strike me as a VI or scum. I'd go with scum. You don't need to keep your vote on someone in order to appear town, you jsut scumhunt.
Off with your head
UNVOTE: Hazard with a Glove
VOTE: Crazypianist

Hoppster · Post Post #852 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 8:01 am

Stels wrote:@Hoppster: Misrepping? Really now? Oh, I'm sorry, it's not my fault that his vote is actually being useless, with it being on Nobody Special who hasn't moved from L-4. My bad. And since he can't do anything but keep his vote on him, why not bother to pursue other targets? Did you ever think of that? Opportunistic scum is opportunistic, thanks Hoppster, you scum you.

Yet you don't vote me; oh the shame.

(SEE WHAT I DID THERE?)

Stels wrote:Ho~ Votes for me, thinking that I'm an easy lynch. Go ahead make a case. Oh what's that? No case? Amazing.

You want a case?

Semi-wall incoming

.

For those who don't get why Stels is scum - at the beginning of the day, he hopped on the NS wagon for this reason:

Stels #23 wrote:
Nobody Special wrote:I understand perfectly that role!=alignment.

But TS still needs to hang.
Wanted TS to hang despite knowing he was a PR...
>_>
<_<
VOTE: NS

The day before, he posts this:

Stels #19 wrote:I think you guys may not understand that TS and Hazard may have the same role, but they could generally be of different alignments... WIFOM, but w/e.

He also changed from the NS wagon to the Hazard wagon for this:

Stels #24 wrote:UNVOTE: NS
VOTE: Hazard with a Glove
Morthas logic wins >_>

Translation:

Post #19: I am fully aware that TS and Hazard are claiming PRs, and I am also fully aware that this does not guarantee that their alignment is the same.

Post #23: I find it scummy that NS thought Twistedspoon was scum despite being a PR,

even though I have previously shown full awareness that Twistedspoon being a PR did not mean he was town

[see #19]

.

Post #24: I think Hazard is scum,

even though he has claimed a PR

[see #19]

,

and despite the fact I found it scummy that on D1 Nobody Special thought Twistedspoon was scum despite NS knowing Twistedspoon was claiming a PR

[see #23]

.

#23 contradicts his stance in #19, #24 contradicts his stance in #23. He's just making up stances to suit him at the time so that he can hop on a forming wagon.

tl;dr

- Stels is opportunistic scum.

Kalofer · Post Post #853 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:11 am

Hoppster wrote:
Stels wrote:@Hoppster: Misrepping? Really now? Oh, I'm sorry, it's not my fault that his vote is actually being useless, with it being on Nobody Special who hasn't moved from L-4. My bad. And since he can't do anything but keep his vote on him, why not bother to pursue other targets? Did you ever think of that? Opportunistic scum is opportunistic, thanks Hoppster, you scum you.
Yet you don't vote me; oh the shame.

(SEE WHAT I DID THERE?)

ohhhhhhh I see what you did there

Hoppster · Post Post #854 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:22 am

Kalofer wrote:ohhhhhhh I see what you did there

IKNORITE?!

ToastyToast · Post Post #855 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:47 am

Zyrconium wrote:^ Are you SURE about that town-read TT?(real question: Do you see why that post should make you question it?)

In light of recent posting, no, Stels is no longer a town-read. My read was based on D1, as I didn't see scum motivation behind his vote.

ToastyToast · Post Post #856 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:49 am

Unvote:Zyrconium

until I ISO Stels.

Hoppster · Post Post #857 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:56 am

Toasty, I even did all the 'hard work' for you. Surely my totally awesome case should be incriminating enough.

ToastyToast · Post Post #858 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:04 am

Hoppster wrote:Toasty, I even did all the 'hard work' for you. Surely my totally awesome case should be incriminating enough.

I don't sheep

Hoppster · Post Post #859 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:11 am

ToastyToast wrote:I don't sheep

>>

It's not sheeping to be convinced by a logical argument imo...

Do you disagree with my case?

ToastyToast · Post Post #860 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:15 am

Hoppster wrote:
ToastyToast wrote:I don't sheep
>>
It's not sheeping to be convinced by a logical argument imo...
Do you disagree with my case?

It's a good argument, but is it really that hard to believe that I like to find additional information b4 voting? I've been behind in this game so I want to make sure not to just accept your case blindly/without more reasons. Patience

Amrun · Post Post #861 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:00 pm

ISOed Stels, eyes glazed over.

VOTE: Stels

ToastyToast · Post Post #862 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:31 pm

Things I like about Stels:
1)One of the few people who showed strong reservations about voting TS
2)Mapped out his suspicions on different people

Things I don't like about Stels:
1)His "I don't want to speculate on set-up but...I'm going to speculate now" moments; especially the one when he suggests that there might be 2 scum teams. What happened that would suggest that
2)See Hoppsters post
3)Voting NS based on "morthas' logic." LOL.
4) His "ridicule' methods on zyrconium--seems to be creating an ad hominem argument against him
5) Bad reason for voting crazy

Vote:Stels

My Issues with the wagon:
1)It built up wayy too fast.
2) My gut was strong enough to put him on my town list. Logic points elsewhere, but I'm still doubtful

mb53 · Post Post #863 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:46 pm

Gah, I forgot about this game yesterday, and just replaced into a different game, so I doubt I'll be abl to post tonight either. I

will

post tomorrow,

I promise

...

vezokpiraka · Post Post #864 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:35 pm

unvote
vote stels

I like Hoppsters case.

vezokpiraka · Post Post #865 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:35 pm

Also toast is scum with Stels.

ToastyToast · Post Post #866 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:38 pm

vezokpiraka wrote:Also toast is scum with Stels.

because I thought he was town? yeah, no, not good enough

Hoppster · Post Post #867 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:25 pm

mb53 wrote:Gah, I forgot about this game yesterday, and just replaced into a different game, so I doubt I'll be abl to post tonight either. I
will
post tomorrow,
I promise
...

If I did literal /facepalms, this is when I would do one. >>

All you have to do is what vezok did, on his birthday no less. HAPPY BIRTHDAY VEZOK!

L-2

by my counting.

Amrun · Post Post #868 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:27 pm

Happy birthday, vezok.

Charlie · Post Post #869 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:03 pm

Vote Count 19

Stels (5) - Hoppster, crazypianist1116, Amrun, ToastyToast, vezokpiraka
Nobody Special (3) - mb53, Zyrconium, Kalofer
Hazard With a Glove (2) - Morthas, Nobody Special
Morthas (1) - Hazard With a Glove
crazypianist1116 (1) - Stels

Not voting: No one.
With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is on Wednesday, 20th April at 1200 hours (GMT -5)

Amrun · Post Post #870 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:19 pm

Anyone else feeling like this wagon went too smoothly?

Hoppster · Post Post #871 (ISO) » Sun Apr 10, 2011 11:32 pm

Amrun wrote:Anyone else feeling like this wagon went too smoothly?

I have no complaints. Nothing gets a game moving like a good wagon. With the exception of Kalofer (and the overburdened mb53), everybody posting since my awesome case has joined the wagon. This makes me happy.

Should help us to find his scumbuddies as well.

Morthas · Post Post #872 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:19 am

Zyrc wrote:@TT: TS claimed something unique, and town sounding, Hazard claimed "me2" Even then, Hazard's claim wasn't that scummy, his pursuit of TS right after it was more scummy, but he's somewhat redeemed himself from that.

Is why i have been voting Hazard, not because of the information reveal.

The case on Stels makes perfect sense except i want to think it's just him being an idiot. Not in any way against that wagon, just not a part of it just yet.
@Stels: Wow, correct me if im wrong but the post where you defend yourself is one of the biggest posts you did all game ;o does that say something?.
STOP BEING SO AGGRESSIVE, RAWR

Can ya add to the list that he hasn't scumhunt like, EVAAAR (or atleast was completely useless anyway)

Kalofer · Post Post #873 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:00 am

HAPPY BIRTHDAY VEZOK!!!

Yup, stels wagon is understandable, the guy has barely posted and whenever he does post he just makes himself look scummy all the time. I attribute it more to VI though and am still prioritising NS...for now.

Morthas · Post Post #874 (ISO) » Mon Apr 11, 2011 3:52 am

Massive theory by Morthas wrote:The way Hoppster creates 2 wagons without considering a player's ability at this game gives me vibes, scum vibes

It would perfectly make sense if Hoppster was mafia and had 2 abilities: one of which was to make himself untargetable by other abilities and the other killing someone (explains how there was no nightkill too)

Besides believing his claim = having such an ability would be very OP and if the trade off was not to kill anyone, it would make sense

I can also theorize since Hoppster strikes to me as a fairly confident person and had judged that town wouldn't get onto him was the reason he picked to hide himself, over a kill which could give town info.

I am also thinking that Hazard would make sense to be him scumbuddy because he (correct me if im wrong, im kind of short on time) didn't pursue Hazard even though he made a similar mistake to what TS kept doing on day 1.

Realized i had to go in middle of writing this so i may have to add something later