Open 296: MAFIA WINS GONNA TEACH YOU TO BURN

[Nachomamma8]

I can give reasoning.

TOWN:
Mute - Changes pre-confirmation random vote after RVS. This shows that he's not particularly worried about his random vote, which is good. Challenged a post calling him obvtown very, very early on. This is also very good.

Iecerint - Changed his RVS vote, good. Recognized Bella's manufactured WIFOM and my seriousness, very good. Active in comparison to everyone else. His interaction with lane also suggests town to me, simply because it was a bit of paranoia and town fall prey to that far more often than scum do.

ThAd - I like his votes, I like his aggression.

mozamis - For attempting to break the game.

MrTrow - ISO #4 is ridiculously protown.

SCUM:
Kingpin -

VOTE: Bella

The less Twilight in this game, the better.

For lack of a better joke.

This post was identical to his pre-redistribution post, except with the bolded tagged on. I can't see any town adding the little addendum because it shows that he was worrying how reposting the exact same RVS post would appear, and thus tagged this part on as a sort of preemptive defense.

@ MrTrow: "He" is Iecerint in that post. I think we need to get everyone participating here, so VOTE: Hero for not posting in 4 days.

This is a lazy, terrible, easy-out vote. This, along with the rest of his posts, show no impulse whatsoever to scumhunt; he's obviously just trying to coast and get through the game alive. The good that comes out of a vote such as this is that we know Hero isn't his scumbuddy once King flips.

You -
You seem quite bottled in your scumhunting. You haven't moved your random bella vote in quite a while, and you haven't shared a single read to this point. You have been questioning people though, which makes it seem to me like you're scum trying to appear to be scumhunting but is forgetting to put the vote with it to make it valid.

Hero is moved to null for now.

Votecount

Mozamis (3): Hero764, lane0168, MrTrow

Hero764 (1): The_Kingpin
The_Kingpin (4): Nachomamma8, ThAdmiral, Iecerint, Stefunny
Stefunny (2): lynchking, Bella
lane0168 (1): Mozamis
Not voting: RangeroftheNorth

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: April 17th

Looking for a replacement for lynchking.

[Nachomamma8]

Oh, look. Kingpin's at the bottom of the screen, meaning that he can reply to my case right now! Glorious.

[mozamis]

the first one's easy: it occured to me that i had had my vote on him for some time. And the reason in the first place was pretty weak. He hasn't said anything since that looks suspicious. So I couldn't keep my vote on him.
Number 2 is trickier-I'll get back to ya

[mozamis]

sorry, my last post was answering Ranger's questions.

Mod note: I am going to set a tentative April 17th deadline.

[Nachomamma8]

Okay, one week until deadline. Let's lynch Kingpinscum now.

[RangeroftheNorth]

I'd like to hear from him before deciding to lynch him. I'd also like to hear mozamis's answer to my second question.

[Iecerint]

VOTE: TheKingpin

I agree with Nacho.

[Iecerint]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: TheKingpin

[ThAdmiral]

Voting bloc?

Icerint, Nacho, Trow, and myself.

[mozamis]

we're gonna lynch a guy that has made 8 posts?
And mainly for his "want of a better joke" comment? I don't find that comment suspicious at all -just looks like he was trying to be funny, which in the RVS stage is fair enough.
This is a "we want to get the game moving, lets lynch someone" . Not good for town, seeing as we have six more days until deadline.

[mozamis]

To answer Ranger's question: I find Lane a bit suspicious. Didnt like his post 101 that much, particularly his "

someone vote for me"

comment.
Bit too eager to fit in as town?

His post 114 seems a bit "jokey, nervous scum" as well.
Althoug he does vote for me in that post, so I can see how it that looks a bit OMGUS from me.

Still, since thats all I really have atm,

VOTE LANE0168

[Nachomamma8]

we're gonna lynch a guy that has made 8 posts?
And mainly for his "want of a better joke" comment? I don't find that comment suspicious at all -just looks like he was trying to be funny, which in the RVS stage is fair enough.
This is a "we want to get the game moving, lets lynch someone" . Not good for town, seeing as we have six more days until deadline.

1) Yes, why not?
2) You can't let things like that slide in the RVS stage, though. I've seen newscum slip that early before, would you like a link?
3) No, this isn't a "we want to get things moving, let's lynch someone" vote. This is a "I've pegged scum, let's give him a pretty new necklace" vote.

[mozamis]

but do a post by post on kingpin. Its not enough to lynch someone. The guy has barely said anything.

[ThAdmiral]

So if you are mafia, you should just say nothing and you'll be fine right?

[The_Kingpin]

Nacho: You're really running with that RVS comment and a pressure vote? That's all you can do?

[Iecerint]

You're complaining about cases on you instead of scumhunting?

[Stefunny]

I was inclined not to agree with nacho on the Kingpin vote, but his lack of argument is really sad. Thank you for posting your reads Nacho. I see where you are coming from on most of them, but the only person I'm sure is town is Mozamis, based on her follow the cop suggestion.
I have strong town reads on Iecerint, Nacho and Ranger. Nacho may not do things the way I normally would agree with, but he IS scum hunting and I think he is right that we have found scum.

I was inclined to vote Lane with Mozamis, but the fact that Kingpin did not come up with any sort of an argument kind of drove that nail home. We also have 2 players who have not posted in 6 days. At this point it doesn't look like either of them have been back to site in a while so I don't think they are "lurking scum". Just people who abandoned site.

It does make me a slight bit uneasy how Nacho is in such a hurry to lynch him, but I can't disagree that Kingpin is probably our best lynch at this point.

And no, I haven't really done as much scum hunting as you have, Nacho, but it is only page 6, and I am asking questions to gauge where people are at. I haven't really had any responses that I wasn't happy with, and to be quite honest, I hate D1.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: KingPin

[The_Kingpin]

I think the fact that Nacho's arguments are a steaming pile of null crap is a good enough defense. How else exactly do i defend my so-called "slip" of trying to "defend" my second random vote? You don't see a situation where town would do that? Boy are you in for a shock then.

[Stefunny]

Who do you think is scum then Kingpin?

[lane0168]

You're complaining about cases on you instead of scumhunting?

you probably replace "reasons" with "excuses" too huh?

when did defending yourself become complaining about cases?

My stance on king is irrelevent... but i'm pretty sure everyone has a right to defend themselves when people are voting for them without it being misrepresented as complaining... remember when you felt weirded out about me not giving up every bit of information? like i said before... stop posting stuff like this.

Why'd you vote for kingpin twice?

[lane0168]

To answer Ranger's question: I find Lane a bit suspicious. Didnt like his post 101 that much, particularly his "

someone vote for me"

comment.
Bit too eager to fit in as town?

His post 114 seems a bit "jokey, nervous scum" as well.
Althoug he does vote for me in that post, so I can see how it that looks a bit OMGUS from me.

Still, since thats all I really have atm,

VOTE LANE0168

i don't know that people trying to start conversation is all that scummy. and don't worry about the OMGUS, i dont really read into that crap, and frankly it annoys me when people call other people out on it, but i'm glad you were worried that you'd be called out on it and had a nice pre-defense.
Bit too eager to be defensive?

[The_Kingpin]

Who do you think is scum then Kingpin?

You and Nacho. I know that sounds like OMGUS, but it isn't. Nacho is grasping at straws and, presumably, going for a quick lynch. You, on the other hand, are grasping and the same straws and

definitely

going for a quick lynch, as evidenced by you saying you have reservations about the case against me, but are voting me anyway. You are voting me because you're scum, and giving doubts to cover yourself for when I flip town.

[RangeroftheNorth]

Unvote: Mozamis

I'll be keeping on eye on you, but for know, I don't think the most likely explanation for your behavior so far is that you're scum.

Quite frankly, I think the case against Kingpin seems murky and circumstantial at best. Kingpin's reaction so far hasn't given me a good read in either direction. The one thing I would like to see from Kingpin is some actual scum hunting, which has been very lacking so far.

So far, Bella has had four different random votes, one answer to a question I asked Icerint, and absolutely nothing else of value. This seems a lot like active lurking, and seems very suspicious to me. I'd like some actual content from her.

Vote: Bella

for the time being.

Mod: Are we getting replacements for hero and lynchking?

[Nachomamma8]

Who do you think is scum then Kingpin?

You and Nacho. I know that sounds like OMGUS, but it isn't. Nacho is grasping at straws and, presumably, going for a quick lynch. You, on the other hand, are grasping and the same straws and

definitely

going for a quick lynch, as evidenced by you saying you have reservations about the case against me, but are voting me anyway. You are voting me because you're scum, and giving doubts to cover yourself for when I flip town.

Hero764 (1): The_Kingpin

:/

We're voting you because we're scum, in your mind...
And you're voting for...
Hero?

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho: You're really running with that RVS comment and a pressure vote? That's all you can do?

You say "is that all you can do?" as if you've done someone more. I've been pushing a case that I believe in, I've brought up valid scumtells in the case against you, and all you've done is vote for someone for being gone for four days, and blatantly OMGUS'ed two of your attackers.