Open 296: MAFIA WINS GONNA TEACH YOU TO BURN

[The_Kingpin]

I've been pushing a case that I believe in.

That's my point. This is all it takes for you to believe in a case? Either you're scum going for an easy lynch or you're just latching onto a tiny thing just to see what happens. Obvscum because didn't want to think of another joke and a pressure vote? If Hero starts getting votes out of nowhere, or gets a replacement, I'll take mine off. Until then, I'm content to leave it where it is.

You're no Jack Kennedy.

Votecount
Mozamis (3): Hero764, lane0168, MrTrow
Hero764 (1): The_Kingpin

The_Kingpin (4): Nachomamma8, ThAdmiral, Iecerint, Stefunny

Stefunny (2): lynchking, Bella
lane0168 (1): Mozamis
Not voting: RangeroftheNorth

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: April 17th

Looking for a replacement for lynchking.

[RangeroftheNorth]

How is your vote on Hero a pressure vote, especially if you say you're going to remove it if other people start voting for him? One vote isn't enough pressure to worry anyone, and if you're going to be removing it if more pressure is applied, it never will be.

Why do you think Hero is a good place for a pressure vote? He hasn't posted anywhere in almost a week, and his only posts here have been confirming/random votes. How is a pressure vote on someone who has clearly disappeared helpful at all? A vote on someone you think is scum would be much, much more useful. A pressure vote on someone actively lurking would be useful. A vote on someone who needs to be replaced doesn't help the town at all.

FOS: Kingpin

[Stefunny]

Speaking of which.

@Mod: Do we have any word on the Hero or Lynchking spots?

Hero replied to my prod. If he doesn't post in thread by Wednesday I will see about replacing him. Still looking for a lynchking replacement.

[Iecerint]

@ lane -- He's not really defending himself. At the time I posted that, he hadn't even made explicit reference to one of Nacho's points. He has since come up with "well town could do that too you know," which doesn't do much more for me.

It's telling that whereas the main case on Hero AFAICT is basically the same as the case on him, he's sticking to a Hero vote. <_<

[mozamis]

So if you are mafia, you should just say nothing and you'll be fine right?

Thats the second time Admiral has twisted my words.
I said we should not lynch someone on the basis of eight posts. Not the same thing.
Not loving Admiral at the moment. Could just be his style of course. But worthy of an IGMEOU

[The_Kingpin]

It was originally a pressure vote. That was before it became obvious Hero needed a replacement.

[mozamis]

You're complaining about cases on you instead of scumhunting?

and this seems unfair. The guy has been attacked -its only reasonable that he defends himself.

[mozamis]

To answer Ranger's question: I find Lane a bit suspicious. Didnt like his post 101 that much, particularly his "

someone vote for me"

comment.
Bit too eager to fit in as town?

His post 114 seems a bit "jokey, nervou

i don't know that people trying to start conversation is all that scummy. and don't worry about the OMGUS, i dont really read into that crap, and frankly it annoys me when people call other people out on it, but i'm glad you were worried that you'd be called out on it and had a nice pre-defense.
Bit too eager to be defensive?

Lol! touche I am defensive about OMGUs tho - because if you vote for someone thats voted for you, its an obvious line of attack. And maybe reasonable.

[mozamis]

sorry buggered up the layout of that last post.

[RangeroftheNorth]

It was originally a pressure vote. That was before it became obvious Hero needed a replacement.

THEN WHY ARE YOU KEEPING IT THERE?

[mozamis]

I think -I'm not sure -that Bellas being quiet in another game i "am in" (I'm dead). Maybe just lurking, maybe busy, maybe scum in both lol

[The_Kingpin]

Because if it wasn't there, I wouldn't be voting anyone. He's at one vote right now, so why bother.

[RangeroftheNorth]

Unvote
Vote: Kingpin

[RangeroftheNorth]

You're complaining about cases on you instead of scumhunting?

and this seems unfair. The guy has been attacked -its only reasonable that he defends himself.

Calling mozamis/Kingpin scum team now.

[The_Kingpin]

Why do I have the feeling you were going to vote me whether I changed it or left it be....

[mozamis]

I have to say, I realise not everyone on Kingpins BW are scum. But i urge the townies on it to get off. This is a ludicrous BW.
Its based on the guy saying for "want of a better joke". Scum have now successfully built up a couple of pages on that, so it now looks like a case.
BUT THERE IS NO CASE AGAINST KINGPIN.

[mozamis]

@ ranger LOL i did wonder how long it would take someone to say "oh, mozaims, why are you defending kingpin".
Take a look at my ither games. I defend people who i think are town.

[mozamis]

It took Ranger 2 and a half hours to go from "case against KIngpin circumstantial at best", to voting for him, and calling a scum team.
Wow.

[RangeroftheNorth]

If you'd changed your vote to someone you found suspicious, I wouldn't be voting you now. When you insist that the only other option to voting someone who you admit needs to be replaced is to vote for no one, and you're going to leave your vote on the person who needs to be replaced because "lol, why not?" that makes me suspicious. You're not helping the town. You basically admit that, but you still aren't going to do something that would help the town.

Plus the fact that mozamis is defending you doesn't help.

[The_Kingpin]

OK fine dude. VOTE: Stefunny. I think she's more likely scum than Nacho because of her weak bandwagoning. Is it me or is this deadline really short?

[RangeroftheNorth]

It took Ranger 2 and a half hours to go from "case against KIngpin circumstantial at best", to voting for him, and calling a scum team.
Wow.

Yes. 2.5 hours and 4 posts from Kingpin, providing nearly as much content as the rest of his posts combined.

[RangeroftheNorth]

@ ranger LOL i did wonder how long it would take someone to say "oh, mozaims, why are you defending kingpin".
Take a look at my ither games. I defend people who i think are town.

And mozamis, I did read your other games. The ones where you were scum and consistently defended your partner.

[mozamis]

pretty sure i didnt do that. certainly one i was in as scum i was bussed very quickly. The other one was long so I may have done at some point i guess.
Certainly, in my town games i have defended other people. And if i think people are town, I will continue to do so.

[ThAdmiral]

I think the fact that Nacho's arguments are a steaming pile of null crap is a good enough defense. How else exactly do i defend my so-called "slip" of trying to "defend" my second random vote? You don't see a situation where town would do that? Boy are you in for a shock then.

Strawman. There is also the point that you made an "easy-out" vote.

Why'd you vote for kingpin twice?

Are you suggesting this is a scumtell?

Nacho: You're really running with that RVS comment and a pressure vote? That's all you can do?

You say "is that all you can do?" as if you've done someone more. I've been pushing a case that I believe in, I've brought up valid scumtells in the case against you, and all you've done is vote for someone for being gone for four days, and blatantly OMGUS'ed two of your attackers.

Basically this.

And the fact that he has said who he thinks are scum, and has still not voted for them...

[ThAdmiral]

So if you are mafia, you should just say nothing and you'll be fine right?

Thats the second time Admiral has twisted my words.