Metropolis: Revisited [Game Over]

[Xalxe]

EDIT: FFFF, I'll read the whole thing. Dammit.

[ReaperCharlie]

Plum has been caught sleeping on a bench again, and has been punched in the face.

[KageLord]

Still waiting to hear from the following about their lynch preferences:

Kise
Xalxe
Kast
Exe
Magua
Plum

Lynch Preference Count (not including strikes already placed):

ABR: 3
MoI: 1
Toog: 4
BS: 3

If we throw in the strikes they already have, that is a potential (obviously certain people are counted two or three times as this is just an estimate of how many strikes we can potentially get on each person at this point):

BS: 5
Toog: 6
ABR: 4
MoI: 2

An MoI lynch is pretty much impossible for today unless at least 2 people that have already chimed in change their minds. I personally would not mind throwing him out of our potential lynch list

for today

(he'll be a good place to go back to tomorrow if he's still alive, considering MoI surviving to D4 is a very strong sign of him being scum in my experience).

Any of the other 3 are quite possible at this point.

[Kast]

Gonna catch up.

[Kast]

But to quickly answer KageLord above:
I pretty clearly stated my preference in my last post.
Preferred:
-Friend
-LLD/SC
Of the current wagons:
-Toog

[MagnaofIllusion]

LLD versus StrangerCoug makes my head spin. Too much minor technicality jousting and little actual scum-hunting.

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I don't generally try and talk logic with people I think are scum... and almost NEVER with people whose case consists of:

I love the manner in which you snipped out all the content related to why I think you are scum and focused on a single line. Very nice.

But I’ll summarize for you –

You’ve dithered between “Let’s No Lynch, its Pro-Town”, apparently hoping scum is going to kill themselves off since Town has no killing roles, and “Camn want’s blood” with nothing regarding reasoning or support for your positions the entire game. For example, you called for KK’s ‘blood’ in going back to ‘classic Camn’ yet shortly afterwards called him Town and wanted someone else lynched. I don’t see your behavior as originating from anyone remotely connected to a Town win condition.

However, you did blow something off that I would like the TOWN to actually look at.
If you can show me a flaw in my logic, that would be great. I have flawed logic a lot It revolves around this:

Yes, I didn’t address it because it was clearly wrong. Others have already shown you how so I’ll just file this as another poor attempt to make me look scummy that backfired.

Now regarding your ‘case’

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I have played with him once, iirc, and he was good. And scum.
My whole take on him hinges on the idea that it is easier to be good as TOWN than it is as scum. Thus, if he were town, he would be at least equaling, if not exceeding his level of play as scum.

Boggles my mind. On one hand your direct experience says I play very Townie as scum. On the other you don’t I’m playing Townie here so I must be scum. I’m not sure how I can make sense of this when your ‘meta’ argument contradicts itself.

So.. It is clear that Moi thinks Toog is scum. Is there a strike? no.
This is a wierd game, though.. is there a VOTE?? no. Not even a vote.

Fantastic way to ignore that Hrezs was my Number 1 scum-read Day 1 where I was voting up until DGB was the necessary strike. Cudos. Because in a game that started with 11 total scum I can have my one vote on them all at one time

Remember... Toog has 2 Strikes already! The momentum is to lynch him! I know this is after I struck.. but it applies! What does Moi do next?

Yeah, you are right. I shouldn’t have struck BabySpice who basically claimed scum in his first post of the day forward.

What say you? Is this a town-player? I think not.

A nice topping of rhetoric. Good work again.

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The cross-striking over-shadowed it all, but MagnaofIllusion is suddenly calling me scum despite zero comment on me yesterday and choosing ThAdmiral over me. (Plum and Albert B. Rampage were consistent)

1. I clearly was wrong in my ThAd read. My guess is that one of the three of you (based purely on numbers of scum in the game and other factors) is very likely scum. I don’t see Kage as scum other than the Daykiller (and I noticed you try to nicely undermine that logic, good work). Thus you.
2. So you aren’t going to address that you suspicion today of AGar isn’t very suspect considering he was dead for 48 game hours when you posted that vote?
3. Am I not allowed to develop new suspicions as the game develops and people make scummy plays? I can dig up quotes from you suggesting that’s Town play if you want to dispute it.

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My main scummy on Friend was the reasonless DGB strike, and the reasonless Wraith vote. (With AGM's following vote)
The lurkiness didn't help of course. But with Friend flaking, his reasonless/scummy strike/vote could just be bad play or lurkiness.

Really? Seems to me your main case was that he posted back to back to back with myself and AGM and we are all scum together. You know, that point you threw an 'Appeal to Authority' on ( I learned from Amished) and then have ignored after being called on to support it.

Why the backpedalling? Realize you got caught overextending your ‘reads’ and are now trying to cover?

[Magua]

Lynch Preference Count (not including strikes already placed):

ABR: 3
MoI: 1
Toog: 4
BS: 3

Blargh.

Want camn lynch. Really want camn lynch.

Out of those above, I like the Toog lynch least. Gambit, gambit, yeah, but IMO, scum simply do not draw such untold attention to themselves at the start of the day at the start of the game. It's stupid play, but it at least feels real to me.

Beyond that, I think ABR is scum. While I think he's one of the expendable goon-scum, at least he's still scum.

BabySpice I still feel is more town than null.

So:

ABR: Yes
MoI: Yes
Toog: No
BS: No
Camn: Yes, yes, a hundred times yes

[Kast]

Still going through re-read but this stood out:

@Mod-

I would have thought that Bulletproof Vest implied

Baseball-Bat-Proof

, and surely Fist-Proof.

Was this meant to be game relevant and to tell us your IC BP Vest is actually intended as Bulletproof AND

Lynch-Proof

? BP does not traditionally mean Lynch-Proof.
If that is what you meant, does the Fist-Proof also imply Lynch-Proof, or is that a reference to the 40% Role-Block?

@Magua-
I think you are more risk averse than the average person on this site. Toog's strikes every day have been anti-town. His strike today promises to continue this anti-town behavior and is self-admittedly made with the expectation that town will continue to let him (and anyone else) get away with reckless anti-town striking with no consequence.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Since when is a VEST Baseball Bat Proof?

RC, let me test this theory. You wear a kevlar vest, and I'll hit you across the face with a Louisville slugger. Repeatedly. You tell me how that vest holds up, kay? <3

[ReaperCharlie]

Ok, how about I shoot you in the face with this water gun? What does the bulletproof vest do? .....

Spoiler:

[Baby Spice]

I am so stealing that for an avatar

[Lady Lambdadelta]

It's kawaii~, I'll give you that.

You still die a horrible death though.

[ReaperCharlie]

Watashi wa kawaii desu ^//^

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Anata was bakayaro desu.

(I'm kidding, I love you RC <3)

[Lady Lambdadelta]

EBWOP: Anata wa bakayaro desu.

I added an "s" accidentally. >.<

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Also RC, in Water Gun + Kevlar Vest vs. Baseball Bat this is what happens:

Spoiler: Detailed and kinda twisted death scene

You still get a baseball bat to the side of the head.

And I still get to watch as your skull caves in, and blood trickles down the side of your face.

Eventually that blood will dry and cake on, and your dead body rots away as a corpse normally does.

Need I go on? (I'm a morbid person, I know. :3)

[ReaperCharlie]

Urusai!

And you need not go on, but remember: I have a @#&$ing WATER GUN!
Those things are unstoppable! Baseball bats are of no consequence.

Anyway... back to the game, haha!

[camn]

/yawn.
So unimpressed by this game.

Can we get to killing?

Magua and Moi:
I see I am not winning you over... so

BRING IT ON!

You think you can get me lynched?
Lets see what you two are really made of.

I only post at night though.. so try and keep it concise.

[StrangerCoug]

So which one of Toog or ABR will it be, guys? I'm open to either.

[camn]

I would prefer MOI.. but OF {TOOG, ABR}, ABR is more likely scum, IMO.

HE has been playing pretty boldly...
I don't know his meta, but it seems to me that you only make yourself a focus like that if you have something going on. A difficult wincon or something.
Sometimes as scum in Newbie games.. I act intentionally scummy/outrageous to combat the 'why is she still alive' argument down the road. Of course, sometimes I do it as town to avoid actually getting nightkilled.......
Feels a little like that.

of course... we could just cripple them both.......

I KID! I KID!
I am not into that plan anymore

[Toogeloo]

Since when is a VEST Baseball Bat Proof?

RC, let me test this theory. You wear a kevlar vest, and I'll hit you across the face with a Louisville slugger. Repeatedly. You tell me how that vest holds up, kay? <3

How about you put on a vest and I shoot you in the face...

[Toogeloo]

Man, I should probably read the rest of the posts before replying...

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Man, I should probably read the rest of the posts before replying...

Universal Truths.

[ReaperCharlie]

Plum has been super-prodified, and will get a baseball bat to the face courtesy of Lady Lambdadelta if she doesn't get her tushie in here... PDQ... and start posting just like everyone else. I see you posting in other games, Plum.

In regular-speak: She's about to be replaced for repeated stretches of inactivity, just like Friend.

[Bunnylover]

Frankly I think the choices that we have limited ourself to is making people unsure of who to strike.
Out of the choices, I feel that Toog has been scummier and unwise with his strike choices and using them.

/strike Toog