Open 297 - Twofold Mafia (Game Over)

[andrew94]

stop using big words. i have a certain set of standards that i use to say whos town etc

[Amrun]

stop using big words.

i have a certain set of standards that i use to say whos town etc

Big words? lolwut?

[andrew94]

big words as in 'anti town' etc.

[Amrun]

I hate to break it to you, but anti-town is a big word in no way, shape, or form.

[ThAdmiral]

only scum needs to appear town.

WHAT?

If town doesn't appear town, then they can end up getting lynched because the scum players are hiding behind their scum mask. If you aren't trying your hardest to seem town when you ARE town, you are being anti-town.

I think what he was trying to say here is that only scum needs to put on a show to appear town, whereas town will just act naturally as they are town.

Other than that though I don't completely disagree that one should always try their hardest to look town. If you are a power role sometimes it can be beneficial to not be thought of as town by everyone, and if you are vanilla sometimes it can be good to take a few risks as if you do end up getting lynched it is not such a huge loss.

[Amrun]

^Well, obviously. I was being very general and broad with that statement. This isn't mafia theory 101.

[IceGuy]

@don_johnson: What is your opinion in regard to andrew94?

@andrew94: What is your opinion in regard to don_johnson?

[Chevre]

Vote Count

(4) TheJakalope (Nikanor, andrew94,

ThAdmiral

,

Mist7676

, don_johnson,

Amrun

)
(2) Mist7676 (neko2086, ConSpiracy)
(2) Amrun (RICO ACT, Scott Brosius)
(2) don_johnson (

TheJakalope

,

Mist7676

)
(1) IceGuy (

ThAdmiral

)

(1) Not Voting (

TheJakalope

, IceGuy,

Amrun

)

With

twelve

living players, it takes

seven

votes to lynch.

Deadline:

April 24th, 2011 9:11pm U.S. CST

Prodded:

no one

Replacing:

no one

[Nikanor]

I GUESS
I CAN DO
THIS:

Unvote. Vote: IceGuy.

The TJ wagon has run its course. It will be a good source of information in later days, but I don't feel that he is the best lynch for today.
IceGuy, on the other hand, is a good lynch. He's not scumhunting, and seems to be making excuses to not scumhunt, which is scummy. When asked why he's not voting for someone in the (non-existent) voting bloc, he replies with, "I don't know which of them are [scum]. Also, I've lost count of the other votes." If he was interested in scumhunting in the slightest, he'd have just looked at the last vote count and seen that not one of the people in the bloc have many votes. Saying that he doesn't want to vote for someone because he doesn't know the vote count is a really bad excuse, and it becomes obvious that it is just an excuse when he doesn't vote for someone after Chevre provides a vote count.

[Nikanor]

HEY AMRUN YOU CAN POST HERE TOO YOU KNOW

[Amrun]

That's not nice, you know. I'm eating dinner, posting from my phone, and sick.

But yeah, ice wagon is fine and dandy. I'll grease the wheels when necessary.

For now, I'm still vainly hoping the jackalope will do ... Something. Anything, really.

Already professed ice as my 2nd scumread way back when.

[andrew94]

[quote="andrew94"]don johnson placing thejakapole is pro town

[quote]

note: i meant to say at L1 BEFORE 'IS PRO TOWN'./
iceguy should have got this
fluff posting etc

unvote vote iceguy

fos mist

[ConSpiracy]

I GUESS
I CAN DO
THIS:

Unvote. Vote: IceGuy.

The TJ wagon has run its course. It will be a good source of information in later days, but I don't feel that he is the best lynch for today.
IceGuy, on the other hand, is a good lynch. He's not scumhunting, and seems to be making excuses to not scumhunt, which is scummy. When asked why he's not voting for someone in the (non-existent) voting bloc, he replies with, "I don't know which of them are [scum]. Also, I've lost count of the other votes." If he was interested in scumhunting in the slightest, he'd have just looked at the last vote count and seen that not one of the people in the bloc have many votes. Saying that he doesn't want to vote for someone because he doesn't know the vote count is a really bad excuse, and it becomes obvious that it is just an excuse when he doesn't vote for someone after Chevre provides a vote count.

Where is the TheJak is scum? Why are you switching votes for something the new votee did as the original votee? Hmmz...

For now, I'm still vainly hoping the jackalope will do ... Something. Anything, really.

TheJack, I showed you how to in the newbie. Now it is your turn to do something other than show someone voted for you under the excuse of a voting bloc.

And I still don't like andrew's easy bandwagoning.

[Nikanor]

a) Where is the TheJak is scum? b) Why are you switching votes for something the new votee did as the original votee? c) Hmmz...

a) I'm not trying to argue that Jak is scum so I don't know why you're asking me that.
b) Jak isn't making excuses to not scumhunt. Ice is. That's why I switched over to Ice.
c) You're still scum. Are you Ice's buddy?

[Mist7676]

Why are we voting IceGuy again?

[Nikanor]

Mist: This post is the main reason for why I'm voting Ice over Jak. When Amrun and I asked Ice why he isn't voting for one of the people in the bloc, he gives two excuses.
Excuse #1: He says that he's not voting for one of the people in the voting bloc because he doesn't know which one is scum. That's BS. If he was at least trying to figure out which person in the bloc to vote for, this excuse would be valid. But he's not trying to figure out the scum in the bloc, meaning that this is just an excuse for not voting and nothing more.
Excuse #2: He says that he can't vote because he doesn't know the vote count. More BS. All he would have to do would be look at the last vote count and he'd see that not one of the people in the bloc are in danger of being lynched.
Providing two different excuses for one thing is already scummy because it means the person doesn't think one excuse by itself will be believed. Providing two different excuses for one thing when both excuses are complete bullshit? That has scum written all over it.

[Mist7676]

OJSHI you r right that was scummy.

Vote: IceGuy

[ThAdmiral]

OJSHI you r right that was scummy.

Damn right it is.

[IceGuy]

Excuse #1: He says that he's not voting for one of the people in the voting bloc because he doesn't know which one is scum. That's BS. If he was at least trying to figure out which person in the bloc to vote for, this excuse would be valid. But he's not trying to figure out the scum in the bloc, meaning that this is just an excuse for not voting and nothing more.

What do you think I'm doing in post 181? (And why is it not scummy that none of them answered?)

Excuse #2: He says that he can't vote because he doesn't know the vote count. More BS. All he would have to do would be look at the last vote count and he'd see that not one of the people in the bloc are in danger of being lynched.

You are aware that I was missing the vote count because it was not posted by then, and a bunch of unvotes and votes before the last VC were making it impossible to follow?

Anyway,

Vote: andrew94

I still don't see why I'm getting bandwagoned, whereas somebody whose entire posts are reproduced below doesn't:

/confirm

vote thadmiral

you know why..

vote: Mist

for having the same letter to number ratio in her name

Conspiracy, were you trying to start the game a little early there?

for some reason, i didnt see the whole of page 2.
but hi here mr hypocrite Oo

/join block

vote conspiracy

@ that guy, your name also has 4 letters and 4 numbers, was that supposed to be a joke

vote the jakalope

gut

no thejakalope is scum./
lynch him

v/la today

don johnson placing thejakapole is pro town

mist accusing don johnson after thejakalope is scum.
therefore, if the jakalope is town, mist is scum
if the jakalope is scum, mist is still scum

@that guy, there will be no 'accidental hammer'.
iceguy said he was at L1. anyone who hammers will get instant lynched the next day, and if hes town (cough blacklist etc)

@scott bro: i dont need reasons..

that point that i dont need reasons was referring to scott brosius.

i didnt see your gender, my bad.
only scum needs to appear town.

stop using big words. i have a certain set of standards that i use to say whos town etc

big words as in 'anti town' etc.

don johnson placing thejakapole is pro town

note: i meant to say at L1 BEFORE 'IS PRO TOWN'./
iceguy should have got this
fluff posting etc

unvote vote iceguy

fos mist

That's not even

trying

. He's voting with no justification whatsoever for everybody who is or was near lynch, and that's NOT scummy?

[Amrun]

Only The Jackalope has been remotely close to lynch, and besides, a good defense is not, "Wah, but he is scummy, why are you not wagoning him instead!" Scumhunting: good, but not if it's only produced as a deflection.

[Scott Brosius]

Mist has done the same thing IceGuy why not vote her?

[IceGuy]

Mist has done the same thing IceGuy why not vote her?

Because I only have one vote.

[Scott Brosius]

Nice question dodge.

Unvote
Vote: IceGuy

[ConSpiracy]

a) I'm not trying to argue that Jak is scum so I don't know why you're asking me that.
b) Jak isn't making excuses to not scumhunt. Ice is. That's why I switched over to Ice.
c) You're still scum. Are you Ice's buddy?

You said earlier that TheJack is scum, why do you crawl back from that statement that easily? I know you didn't say he was town, but you did vote IceGuy for:
- Not scumhunting (Jack doesn't either)
- Excuses. I want you to read this post:

This is more like you saying that "We are going to have to push 1 of these people off a bridge. Support me in attempting to push ConSpiracy off." and me telling you "Ok, but if someone asks me to push someone else off and they provide reasoning OR someone gives me a reason to support pushing them off, I'm going to support pushing that person off".

On top of that you said a Jack lynch gave us good source of information in later days. Which is better than Ice would give us at that time.

[neko2086]

I agree that Ice's post is very deflective. It is also not very helpful, if all he has done is taken up space to reproduce a bunch of posts only to give a short, general comment afterwards. It would have been sufficient to say, "ISO andrew and look at his shitty posts." It seems Ice is giving us a wall just to appear to be doing something.

Mist has still yet to actually contribute anything. She isn't even reading the freaking thread (see post 189 above). I like my vote where it is, though an Ice-lynch wouldn't be bad either.

Mist, there are now 8 pages. Tell us something.