Open 290 - Double Day (Game Over)

[silverbullet999]

damnnn cmon that was obviously just a joke...

UNVOTE:

[Starbuck]

Vote Count

Twistedspoon - Hiraki
Hero764 - Nacho
Nacho - singersigner
Nobody Special - Number48
Hiraki - Twistedspoon

Not Voting - silverbullet999, ConfidAnon, Nobody Special, HackerHuck, bvoigt, Furcolow, Hero764, Klazam

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.

[Twistedspoon]

damnnn cmon that was obviously just a joke...

prove you're not a joker and give us your top scumread

[Furcolow]

vote: Hiraki

wish you all had listened to me yesterday

nacho, don't even say it

[silverbullet999]

give me a bit to reread, need to refresh my memory of this game.

also I am a joker, else I wouldn't have posted a joke! (oh snap)


alright serious time next post I swear.

[Twistedspoon]

I have nothing against jokers

on the contrary I think being a joker is probably a great thing. I'd rather be happy than right anyday =D

but what matters now is getting back to our scum-lynching ways

[bvoigt]

You sounded positive that Apok was scum, so why the change of plans? BTW, I'll do some rereading in the next few days.

The answer was right in your quote

His vote on Apok makes it sound like he knows that Apok is going to flip as town, which is why he is lining up the lynch of me who was pushing Apok for a large amount of the first day. Even his vote or Merin sounds like it was made with the intention to lynch Apok the next day.

Right back to where we started now.

Vote Nobody Special

You made it sound like the read was very strong, then changed your mind at the drop of a hat?

[Hiraki]

One more day.

Came in late today due to various reasons, there is no way I can plausibly have the effort to write a wall. I definetly have the time though.

[Furcolow]

Hiraki's refusal to appear pro-town makes me believe he isn't pro-town even more

[Twistedspoon]

Hiraki's refusal to appear pro-town makes me believe he isn't pro-town even more

this

anyways, It's a shame. I was expecting hikari to have done his case by now

I'm V/LA until Saturday/Sunday

so I can't just blow it away like a pyramid of cards until then i guess

But since his case will be about as correct as his case for meran...

[singersigner]

Heyheyhey.

So sorry I haven't been around. I'm in the process of moving and didn't factor in the amount of time that might actually take. The next few days are going to be a bit hectic (I have a 6 hour drive ahead of me included in that move), but I'll be able to follow the thread and *hopefully* comment on anything that super sticks out at me.

I do feel as though the first day was a bit rushed in the second half. If anything, the "quick-lynch" should happen in the first half, so we can figure out what to do with the information from it in the first half...

I'll be back with thoughts on Hiraki and Nacho at least.

[Klazam]

Coming in, will post late tonight.

[Nobody Special]

I have to be

V/LA through the weekend.

I may be able to catch up Friday morning, but after that I'll be out of town, so no access at all.

[Furcolow]

What is this inactivity?
Noone wants to step up to the plate?
I'll read through and make a case tomorrow if noone else has and someone reminds me.

[silverbullet999]

Hiraki, where's your case, political promises I hate.

[Nachomamma8]

So... are you guys done fucking around now?

[Twistedspoon]

Hiraki, where's your case

Hikari's doing a nacho

[silverbullet999]

-Twisted
Touche

VOTE: Hero

[Twistedspoon]

hero? why might that be?

interesting to note that he was a pod person scumread and we all know pod was a townie now...
That's wifom though i guess. Ignore it if you want

anyways, I guess it's better than a starbuck vote :p

[bvoigt]

Town

Twistedspoon- He pushed heavily on Meransiel the entire day.
Hiraki- I don't think scum would blatantly call their partner town the way he did.
ConfidAnon- I didn't like his Nacho vote at first, but the explanation seemed sincere.
silverbullet999- He put a lot of effort into scumhunting in the early part of the game.
Nachomamma8- I still don't think he's playing to his scum meta.
Furcolow- This one's mostly a gut read.
Klazam- His early pressure on Meransiel also seems sincere.

Null

Nobody Special
singersigner
Hero764

Scum

HackerHuck- He expressed suspicion of Meransiel, but stayed with a weaker vote on Nacho. Also, in ISO #8, Klazam had 4 suspects and he only wanted more explanation about Meran (scum getting worried about his buddy?)
Number58- He's explained his flip-flop between ISOs #12 and #13, but I don't really buy it.

VOTE: Number58

Also, @singer: Why did you think Meransiel was town?

[Hiraki]

So... are you guys done fucking around now?

NO.

So... are you guys done fucking around now?

NO.

TWISTEDSCUM PROOF INCOMING. WHEE WHEE.

It's only until Post 7 that something interesting comes. Note that Post 7 is on page 8. Annoying is it? YES.

On Post 7 he votes Meran, who he had never mentioned before, claiming he forgot to do so. Hmmzorz.

Post 8 says that he did it for strawmanning. TS doesn't mention how though.

have never seen a townie play like nacho has done. Hopefully won't again
but yeah, I consider his list as shield of sorts. It was odd that he included the mods in them at first though

While I agree on the second part of your case, this looks pitiful. You can't call someone scum because you disagree with their reads. You dispute their reads, and they change if they feel good about changing it.

Agreeing with rest of #10.

Probably too risky to lynch today anyways.

Note that TS has already admitted that Nacho doesn't play a town game at all, already.

I have my eye on you Mer. I believe the cool kids these days call it an IGMEOU

Note that TS is already voting Meran. Obviously you have your eye on him. Any Sherlock could identify that. The rest of 12 is fine though.

IGMEOY for now

WHY IS IT ALWAYS IGMEOY? FFS. TO YOU MERAN SHOULD BE SCUM #1. YOU DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER SUSPECTS. FFS. IT FEELS LIKE YOU DON'T KNOW WHO YOU'RE VOTING NOW.

I'm not interesting on tunneling on one player no matter how suspicious they may be.

Thanks, this tunneling was getting annoying.

and you're flailing

Oh, back to this. Awesome.

15-17 have merely any point.

#18 has little point. TS recalls past game of experience, gives no real opinion on matter.

meransiel is the easy target

next read

HA.

HAHAHA.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

NEXT READ? YOU MEAN YOU READ OTHER PEOPLE THAN MERAN? IT'S A TUNNEL-FEST DAY ONE.

Not only is this

highly

ironic, but TS is STILL voting "the easy target".

You're scum, and need to die. But I will prove scum even more. I will assure your death today.

i'm not saying he isn't scum, i've said multiple times that I think he is

No, you actually haven't. You've only voted and given an IGMEOY. Note also that your vote is still your RVS vote.

alright, as long as we hear the 3 other reads and conclusions

This is toward Nacho. Not liking, just because TS has been slightly negative toward him, except when he's here. Dunno if that's association, or if that's TS' nature. Not willing to go on this though.

#23 is more crap.

#24 is fucking juicy. In fact, I could make a case just based on this post.

I suggested a mer lynch so long ago

Thanks. Can you give some...well....other reads now?

I want to hear from him again before a lynch though

Did you? After you stated that you didn't want to argue with him. HAR HAR HAR.

as well as nacho and pim

Why Pim? You haven't brought her up yet.

#25 is nice.

#26 makes Singer look scummy. Plausible lynch on her? Probably.

mer will end up being a lylo hazard anyways. The sooner he goes, the clearer things get

And this is because....?

Especially mer

MADE THIS CLEAR ON THE OTHER 25 POSTS ABOUT MER.

#34 goes back to the Nacho hate. I don't see why TS is so interested on three reads. He's already agreed on Meran scum at this point.

#36-#39 are killing me.

#40 THE FUCKING FINAL STRAW.

OBVIOUSLY SOMEONE HAS THE PERMISSION TO HAMMER, EXCEPT SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO.

THIS TUNNELING IS EASILY SCUM DRIVEN. WHY NO ONE HAS DETECTED THIS IS ALARMING.

NOTE THIS:

I am tempted to vote Hikari for his last-minute protection of Mer, but it was probably town.

COMES BACK LATER I BELIEVE.

OH GOOD, IT COMES BACK ONLY A FEW POSTS LATER.

Personally, I think we could lynch Hikari today, and if he flips town, seriously consider Apok the next day. His lynch is probably inevitable before lylo anyways

HA.

HAHAHAHA.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

YOU WERE TEMPTED TO VOTE ME AND STOPPED WITH A DEFENSE. YOU CALLED ME TOWN, RATHER THAN SCUM.

YOU THEN COME BACK 4 POSTS LATER WHEN THERE'S A BW ON ME, AND HOP ON.

HAHAHAHAHA. OH TS, YOU'RE

TOO

FUNNY.

LET'S GO ON THOUGH. BITCHES BEEN WAITING DAYS FOR THIS.

yeah, it might look like a complete U-turn from me maybe, but I've considered it

MIGHT?

YOU'VE CONSIDERED IT?

Oh, right, when you gave reads of people, right?

hikari knew scum wouldn't defend a scumbuddy on L-1 since it was almost inevitable that they'd be hammered, so he did so to look like he was a townie defending a town read the the last minute.

Right. Use your own logic on how I was town, and just spoof it up a bit so I look like scum.

That always works.

and this helps us catch scum how?

Oh sorry, I guess you have to care about everyone's votes, and ask every single question in the book. It is the scum advantage to know everyone's opinion.(lolol that's why TS gave no reads lololol)

In #58, TS shows us all that he's voting me again.

but what matters now is getting back to our scum-lynching ways

No, we should probably lynch town by now.

Here's the point TS. Your posts that don't have content are horrible. They make me cry. They're full of IIoA, and lead us nowhere. The posts that you do make that have content? They were tunnels. Long and dark ones at it too.

P.E.

Twistedspoon- He pushed heavily on Meransiel the entire day.

DID YOU SEE HOW HE PUSHED? ISO HIM FFS.

[bvoigt]

I have never seen a townie play like nacho has done.

Hopefully won't again

Actually...I didn't see this before. Doesn't the bolded say that Nacho is definitely town?

[Hiraki]

I have never seen a townie play like nacho has done.

Hopefully won't again

Actually...I didn't see this before. Doesn't the bolded say that Nacho is definitely town?

Not really. But you get points for trying.

[Twistedspoon]

:/

I was expecting analysis, not a running commentary, anyone could do that

skimming through it there are parts I want to counter and such but It's midnight where I live and i should really get some sleep first.
but 2 last questions before i go to hikari before i go

1) What makes you think you're not wrong about me as you were so disastrously with mer?
2) What will you end up saying in your defence when I flip town (assuming i am lynched)

[Hiraki]

1)Your tunnel is horrendous. I'm sure about this scum read.

2)Why would I ever think about what would I say in defense? I think you're scum. Only scum thinks of defenses.

I did put analysis in there. It's pretty obvious, IMO.