Missed this on the last page:
Darkcoffeejazz wrote:EBWOP: Meant to add this in, sorry. As an addition to teh above post, I meant to say one thing:
Mogri, while we're on the subject of logical fallacies and using them against people, why don't you review your own Appeals to Ridicule?
http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacie ... icule.html
Aka "So you ARE bad at logic", which is, technically, a way of trying to discredit the person you are arguing against.
A popular misconception is that if someone says, "You're stupid and your argument is wrong because X, Y, and Z," then that person has committed an ad hominem. That's incorrect; an ad hominem says, "You're wrong because you're stupid."
Along the same lines, much or all of what MoI is labeling as strawman arguments are actually
cherry picking, which is related but not the same thing, and, more importantly, not a fallacy in and of itself. It'd be nitpicking at this point to go down the list, though; however...
MoI wrote:You are simply cherry picking fallacies in an attempt to undermine my acccusations against you.
Yes, that is exactly what I did. I don't see why you take issue with me pointing out the holes in your arguments.
MoI wrote:Matt may be scum not for playing cautiously but for stating that scum always play that way when he should, if Town, know that it isn’t a valid argument.
You are now saying that [[Matt should know that "scum play cautiously" is an overgeneralization.]] This is a new argument altogether and is inconsistent with what you've said before.
MoI wrote:Speaking of deflections … you don’t address the inconsistency in your behavior but attack me again. You can’t justify your behavior so you try to turn it on me. Don’t expect it to work.
Nice try, but that does address the inconsistency. After you jumped on me for my first vote, I tried voting more conservatively -- but you jumped on me for that, too.
MoI wrote:Are you choosing not to read? You once again cherry picked the part of the quote that you thought might bolster your argument. Bravo. As is said ... before the end of the Day I will have a solid read on Jason.
And that still doesn't answer the question.
MoI wrote:Now you’ve just pulled a 180. In your previous posts you attack me for tunnelling you and Projectmatt. That by definition means I’m ignoring everyone else.
Yet suddenly I’m interacting with everyone but Jason.
Which behavior am I doing again? Feel free to decide so I can address it.
And you say I dodge questions! Let me be explicit: Several players have accused Jason of scummy play. You have not said one word to or about him (except "I'll tell you later," which, hey, thanks for that). You have
interacted
with most of the players besides Jason, and for whatever reason you have
tunnel vision
on me and Matt.
Still with me?
You and Jason are among the most active players currently. You two have not exchanged words once in eight pages of posts. I would like an explanation from both of you. Jason said this was a lie but did not provide any examples, whereas you have spent two posts talking about everything but this.
The most obvious explanation to me is that you two already know each other's alignment.
