MUNSCM - Abandoned

[God]

Yes yes it was.

[bigbenwd]

i would like to be added to the speakers list

[PolarBoy]

Can I be added to the speakers list?

[cuban smoker]

Thank you delegate from the Phillipines. I now call on the delegate from Chile to speak (although I understand he has an ammendment to propose).

[cuban smoker]

Submitter - UK
Seconder - Phillipines

SPEAKER's LIST

Chile < current speaker
United States of America
Benin
United Kingdom

[shadyforce]

*Steps up to the podium*

Thank you Mr. Chair. I would like to propose an amendment to the wording of the resolution. I would like "

China

" to be replaced by "

a nation with veto power (if possible) randomly chosen by the Chair, and not investigated on a previous night, the results of which should be revealed if and only if it is guilty or innocent and the nation in question has a motion targeted at him for a sanctioned nuclear strike.

"

My reasons for this amendment are simple:

1. Like the honourable delegate from the UK or the Phillipines, I agree that the nations with veto powers should be investigated first because if an evil nation(s) is/are the sole nations with veto power then the United Nations' Security Council is in a very vulnerable state.

2. If a nation is publically targeted for investigation and is innocent, then they wil likely be nuked the following night.

3. This amendment will protect the innocent nations while still exposing the guilty nations.

[cuban smoker]

Thank you delegate from Chile. I remind all delegates that you may not actually ask any points of information of this speaker, and as outlined in procedures, the delegate from Chile must step down.

I now call upon one speaker in favour of the ammendment, and two speakers opposed. If you would like to speak in favour, please do so immediately. If you would like to speak opposed, please do so immediately. You may not ask points of information towards any of the delegates who speak. However, if you do choose to be one of the speakers on this ammendment, you may address points in previous speaches, but no questions will be answered.

Once all three have spoken, we will immediately go to voting procedures on this ammendment. I hope this is clear? (HINT: The speaker's list is suspended... we are in ammedment mode now. Once three delegates speak on the ammendment, we vote on it. THEN we go to the next speaker on the list, USA)

[shadyforce]

*Steps down from podium*

[mathcam]

I will speak in favour:

[mathcam]

The amendment proposed by the delegate from Chile gives a more potent form of evil-catching than does the original amendment. By randomly choosing among nations with veto power, we lessen the risk of one (possibly evil) nation with veto power having control over where the investigation is sent. Also, by focusing on veto-empowered countries, we increase the probability of ridding ourselves of the largest threats inside the axis of evil.

In addition, a point of clarification: I think the line in the amendment should be interpreted with parentheses, as follows:

"the results of which should be revealed if and only if (it is guilty) or (it is innocent and the nation in question has a motion targeted at him for a sanctioned nuclear strike)."

I believe this was the intent of the amendment and no confusion should be caused.

Germany

[cuban smoker]

Thank you delegate from Germany. I still require 2 speakers opposed now.

[bigbenwd]

I shall be opposed to this ammendment

I do not think that a country with veto power would also be in The Axis, they would be too powerfuls, I beleive that the axis are in non-veto countries.

[cuban smoker]

Thank you delegate from Benin. One more speaker opposed, then all delegates should immediately vote on the ammendment.

[bigbenwd]

i request to be taken off the speaker's list, i have said what I wanted to say, thank you

[Thoth]

Do we first have to vote about the amendment and if it is voted through do we then discuss the whole resolution again?


If we do not discuss the resolution again after the vote about the amendment then Spain would like to speak opposed to the amendment. If we do then Spain would prefer to speak opposed to the complete resolution though.

[cuban smoker]

Delegate from Spain, you are out of order. Please address the chair formally. Once the ammendment has been voted on (after one last speaker opposed), we return directly to debating the resolution, as it now stands with or without the ammendment. Specifically, we will return to the next speaker on the speaker's list: USA. There is also no limit to how many times you can speak, as long as you follow procedures.

Now, I still require one delegate to speak opposed. If no one else speaks opposed, I will be force to acclaim this ammendment without a vote.

[shadyforce]

Don't oppose! Don't oppose! Don't oppose! Don't oppose!

[PolarBoy]

The delegate from the United Kingdom would like to speak opposed to this ammendment.

There were several reasons that China was selected as opposed to random selection. Some were addressed in the original resolution. Another reason though is that we do not know what the report will entail. Whether it will even, for instance, include the name of the country investigated.

To address the issue raised by the delegate from Benin, the fact that an axis member with veto power would be so dangerous is the very reason to keep those with more power in check first. The United Kingdom does not have blind faith in this nebulous concept of divine fairness and believes that we should prepare for the worst case scenario first.

On another note, this resolution is by no means complete. After submission of the original resolution it was realized that the axis has merely to launch a nuclear strike on the nation inspected to make the investigation worthless. It could also attack the nation receiving the report for virtually the same effect.

The next resolution was to include a plan to counteract this inevetability by randomizing the receiver of the report and sending the MABM to the nation being investigated.

It is the firm belief of this delegate that this plan, or one similar to it, would minimize the potential for failure in ascertaining the placement of unsanctioned nuclear weapons.

[cuban smoker]

Thank you delegate from the United Kindgom.

We now go to voting procedures on the ammendment, which is:

"

China

" to be replaced by "

a nation with veto power (if possible) randomly chosen by the Chair, and not investigated on a previous night, the results of which should be revealed if and only if it is guilty or innocent and the nation in question has a motion targeted at him for a sanctioned nuclear strike

."

in the current resolution.

PLEASE VOTE ON THIS AMMENDMENT NOW!

[shadyforce]

Vote: YES!

[ZONEACE]

the delegate from Romania

votes in favor

of the amendament

[Fishbulb]

Vote: In favor

of the ammendment.

[Phoebus]

France is in favour

[Thoth]

vote:in favour

[mathcam]

Vote: opposed

Cam