Mini 1141 - Frogs Mafia 2 - GAME, SET, MATCH

[iamausername]

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THAT'S NOT NO REASON AT ALL THEN IS IT.

Why did you vote for nopoint?

The answer to that question is the same as the answer to "Why are you voting for me?". Please try to actually answer it this time.

[Amrun]

@MBL: I also addresse iam's posts.

As for CES, I am observing him carefully. I will ask him more questions when I deem fit. Once it was obvious the wagon would not be backed up, I decided to look harder at the two viable candidates instead. Also kind of "meh" on this game as a whole...

[scotmany12]

scot, why are you waiting for tomorrow to evaluate Apok? Don't you think it would be a good idea to make sure you are making an informed lynch choice today?

When I said tomorrow, I meant today, as in Friday, as in when I wake up and have more time. Which I will later today. Why would you think I meant the next game day?

And why have you still not claimed?

[Shanba]

Vote Count:
5: iamausername

(Cogito Ergo Sum, implosion, scotmany12, Meransiel, Apokalyptica)

3: Apokalyptica

(MrBuddyLee, iamausername, Amrun)

1: MrBuddyLee

(petroleumjelly)

1: Amrun

(kunkstar7)
Not Voting:

Apokalyptica, Bella, Darkstrike_11

Deadline is Monday March 18 April, btw

Darkstrike_11 is being replaced. Kunkstar7 is in violation of activity guidelines and is being prodded

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Badgering Meransiel instead of claiming isn't pro-town.

[Bella]

iam has had more than ample opportunity to claim. Next post, or I'm hammering.

[scotmany12]

Sorry. I'm at work now and ended up having to cover for someone so I'm working a double. My reread of apocalyptic wil have to wait till tomorrow

[kunkstar7]

My vote isn't doing much where its at, although I would prefer to see a lynch there.

Vote: Apok.

A fine second option, and a lynch I prefer to iamausername.

[Meransiel]

You know, guys... I've been thinking for some time about the balance in this game... and, as close to the nightphase as it might be, I think Bella should die.

[Amrun]

Why Bella, Merensial?

[Meransiel]

The town has a dayvig. Her and I are some kind of neighbors that don't know eachother's alignment and can talk at night. You honestly expect a balanced game to give town both dayvigs and (albeit unconfirmed) masons?

[Amrun]

Why not... If you guys are unconfirmed it's like a WIFOM-fest. Not like regular masons... Why did you just role reveal for no reason?

[Meransiel]

What WIFOM?

Lynch her, if she's town, lynch me. Or lynch me, if I'm town, lynch her. As simple as that.

I claimed cause this is a piece of info that might prove useful later. Plus, the neighbor is probably the most expendable role, safe for VT, so nk'ing me is a wasteful move for the mafia anyway.

[Amrun]

Yeah. You just ruled out minimum 2, maximum 1 people as non "important" PRs, narrowing the field for PR-huntig scum... I don't see any town motivation for that at all.

And you haven't even had time to talk to her yet! Couldn't you use gameplay instead of outguess the mod to determione her alignment?

Merensial just pissed on the townread I had on her.

[Amrun]

Also obvious attempt to derail banmdwagon is obvious.

[Meransiel]

If I'm not town motivated as you say, then lynch me. The flip would sort some things out.

These are bad times for town. If we mislynch, it will be 3-null in favor of mafia, and if petro mislynches tomorrow (which he probably will) the best possible outcome is 5-1.

Oh, and the mafia helping to find PR thing? That is exactly what you're doing by forcing iam to claim.

[Meransiel]

So don't patronise me for wanting to win as much as anyone else, and being reckless about it. Oh, by the way:

unvote

[Amrun]

No, because iam is about to die anyway. Huge difference.

That is the most suboptimal play...

I need to go sit in a corner and wish this didn't happen for awhile.

[Amrun]

Before I do that:

VOTE: merensial

[Amrun]

Also because she seems way too sure iam will fllip town.

[Meransiel]

1. I didn't say iam will flip town. I just said it would be devastating if he would.

2. For what it's worth, I like my name. Please type it correctly, or use a short.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

1) Meransiel, your reasoning is terrible. Neighbors are slightly more valuable than VTs if they're both town. There are absolutely no balance concerns here.
2) Revealing that was totally not a scum move. (For one thing, if he were scum, then the scum would already have that info.)

Oh, and the mafia helping to find PR thing? That is exactly what you're doing by forcing iam to claim.

Nope. If iam is a weak role, we lynch him. If iam is a strong role, then the scum will know iam's role, but it's still a net gain because they have to use a nk instead of us wasting a lynch.

[Amrun]

Exactly. I think the scum already know, but Merensial put it out there to try and get Bella lynched.

Not sure yet, of course, but that was my gut reaction.

[Cogito Ergo Sum]

Given that iam was on the block, if Meransiel's scum who's trying to get Bella lynched here, then odds are he's protecting iam.

[Amrun]

I already pointed that out.