Battle for Olympus - Game Over!

[LordChronos]

She doesn't always drink Dos Equis
but when she does

ho ho ho she beats her family

This post makes my head hurt. Does chesskid always act like this?

@Snow Bunny

You gonna make an actual vote or not?

[quadz08]

*waves at Gandalf*

P-Edit: yes.

[gandalf5166]

We haven't played together in a while, have we quadz?

This game amuses me for some reason. It's kind of chaotic.

[quadz08]

We played in Mordor together, it hasn't been that long. I just died way too quickly (DAMN YOU FATE/VV).

[AGar]

She doesn't always drink Dos Equis
but when she does

ho ho ho she beats her family

God dammit it's

"I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I beat my wife and children."

LEARN2NOTFUCKUPJOKESKTHXBAI.

VOTE: Quadz

I caught you you conniving bastard!

[chesskid3]

I KNOW THE JOKE

[quadz08]

AGar: NEWBIE 965 WAS LONG AGO.

[AGar]

AGar: NEWBIE 965 WAS LONG AGO.

INDEED OLD FRIEND (ARE WE FRIENDS?) BUT I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN!

[Axelrod]

Vote: Gemini

Let the smiting of evil Hydras begin!

[CryMeARiver]

Mod: Were scum decided according to their surveys? Or were scum randomly decided, and then specific roles determined by the survey? Also, are we allowed to claim our answers to the survey?

I truly thought about posting the same thing, but I decided it will a) Extend RVS b) Out PR's c) Just make mafia lie about their answers and make them simple so as to not be caught.

Let's not do this.

[gandalf5166]

Oh, I'm not suggesting that we claim them NOW. I'm just saying we could require people to post their survey when they claim. At the very least, it would force scum to do some research before they fakeclaimed if they weren't familiar with flavor.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Ok .. now that we seem to be getting into some actual content ..

Point 1

– I’m going to do a partial claim. I am

Hated Townie

. Per standard conventions I require 1 less vote to lynch. I claim this for two reasons.

1. So there is no possible mistake on me being lynched due to a ‘Oops, I thought I was putting him at L-1’.
2. I can’t be around for LYLO / MYLO. As we potentially get closer I’ll need to be vigged or lynched if I haven’t already been killed so that something akin to Kise’s Square Enix 4 does not occur.

--

Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't. I usually do it on large games, though.

Ok … so you are going to make me wade through your completed games to look for trends? Sigh … off to your games list I go …

--

Delay of game. Clear infraction.

God damn it Dekes why are you softclaiming Zeebrus, the God of Blindness, Striped Shirts, and Referees? Now you are just asking for a NK

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@Gandalf

– Aside from potentially clogging up the thread with useless information I have a question on your survey theory –

Do you think you are going to be able to crack the ‘code’, as it were, that the Mods used to assign roles?

[Gemini]

@Snow Bunny

You gonna make an actual vote or not?

Why do you ask this? It's not like the votes on players are that "actual" at this stage of the game. Not everyone likes to random vote at the beginning. I guess same question to Dekes.

And to spare you the time, I went and looked at three of Snow_Bunny's previous games and she did not start any of them with a random vote and one she started with a mod vote (she was town), so it is consistent with her character, and I also don't see anything particularly noteworthy in doing that at the beginning of the game - I see it happen often so I am curious why you two are making a point of it.

Since we are a hydra and some people care about this, this is the Katy half and I'll try to remember to sign my posts with "kt" Like so -

-kt

[MagnaofIllusion]

So looking through Snow’s completed games

–

East of Eden – RVS voted a player – Vanilla Town in game

Sly Cooper – RVS voted a player – Mafia Godfather in game (though she replaced out)

Ladies Night – First vote a player (although it was clearly not RVS) – Town Cop

Supernatural Mafia (Large Theme) – First vote a player (althoght it was clearly not RVS) – Town Paranoid Cop

Insane Asylum Mafia – RVS voted the Mod – Town Nurse in game (though she replaced out)

Picto Mafia 2 – First voted for a player (can’t tell if it was RVS but seems unlikely) – Town Tracker

Everyone’s a Hero Mafia – RVS voted for self – Town role

Greek Mythology Mafia – RVS voted a player – Town role

At this point I noticed only one Large Theme was present. So I went hunting exclusively for Large Themes …

Of Gods and Men – First vote for player (although it was clearly not RVS) - Mafia

Cross Edge Bastard – RVS voted for Mod – Town Tracker (I think … damn bastard games)

Karma Mafia – RVS voted a player - Slot was Vanilla Town (though she replaced out)

Mind Screw Mafia 4 – RVS voted for Mod - Town Inventor

Conclusion

- with a very small sample size it is not impressive but Meta leans towards a Mod vote in a Large Theme game as being a small Town tell for Snow-Bunny.

Well, at least I don't feel like I wasted half an hour doing that now ...

[quadz08]

AGar: NEWBIE 965 WAS LONG AGO.

INDEED OLD FRIEND (ARE WE FRIENDS?) BUT I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN!

WE ARE TOTALLY FRIENDS.

MoI: good claim. *thumbsup*

Gandalf: I'm of the opinion that it would just clutter the thread with needless outguessing of the mods. It wouldn't accomplish anything, IMO

P-edit: MoI, USELESS POST. Just sayin'.

[MagnaofIllusion]

P-edit: MoI, USELESS POST. Just sayin'.

Actually I disagree since I was able to come to the conclusion that a Mod vote is a small meta Town tell for Snow Bunny. Recent events and past experience have shown that players without a propensity for doing a Mod / Invalid vote who open RVS with may be Scum-telling.

Additionally I usually find SnowBunny to be a lurky difficult read so any amount of info I can glean on her is helpful.

[MagnaofIllusion]

God ... I just realized I'm agreeing with Chesskid on SnowBunny. I think somewhere on of the Seven Seals just broke ...

[AGar]

AGar: NEWBIE 965 WAS LONG AGO.

INDEED OLD FRIEND (ARE WE FRIENDS?) BUT I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN!

WE ARE TOTALLY FRIENDS.

WHEEEE

P-edit: MoI, USELESS POST. Just sayin'.

Actually I disagree since I was able to come to the conclusion that a Mod vote is a small meta Town tell for Snow Bunny. Recent events and past experience have shown that players without a propensity for doing a Mod / Invalid vote who open RVS with may be Scum-telling.

C'mon, I know you're better than this.

That as a small meta tell is so easily manipulable it isn't even funny. :/

Other than that, claim was good.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Gemini

The passive-aggressiveness in 37 is terrible. Let's goooooo, wagon!!

[AGar]

EBWOP:

To clarify, SB is admittedly aware of that "tell" as a part of her meta, so she is more than capable of manipulating something like that to her liking/advantage.

[quadz08]

^See, I told you AGar and I were friends.

However, point out the passive-aggressiveness in Gemini's post. I don't see it.

[AGar]

However, point out the passive-aggressiveness in Gemini's post. I don't see it.

Sure thing.

@Snow Bunny

You gonna make an actual vote or not?

Why do you ask this? It's not like the votes on players are that "actual" at this stage of the game. Not everyone likes to random vote at the beginning. I guess same question to Dekes.

^ This.

"Why are you questioning her, dude? It's totally not called for."

But no vote, or followup. Just a very weak jab, serving no purpose really.

[quadz08]

He asked Chronos (and Dekes) a question. Why would he follow up with anything before there's an answer?

[MagnaofIllusion]

That as a small meta tell is so easily manipulable it isn't even funny. :/

Feel free to disagree but I don’t perceive Snow Bunny as a player invested in ‘managing’ meta. And frankly if that was the case I would have expected at least 1 example of a Mod / Invalid vote in her games if that was the case. Going back basically at least a year we have none.

But no vote, or followup.

The thread has been open for less than 24 hours. How much follow-up do you expect when none of the players involved have posted since Gemini made ISO 37 an hour ago?

Preview Edit - Quadz you Ninja!!!!

[AGar]

The tone of the question was quite aggressive, which lead me to believe there would be more pressure of any kind, which there was not.

[gandalf5166]

@MOI: No. I DO know that my role is in accord with the answers that I gave, and we could potentially catch unknowledgable scum by making people claim their survey when they claim their role. I don't see any downside other than it would make it harder for town to make gambits.