Open 290 - Double Day (Game Over)

[Furcolow]

i can but I know I'm not

also, I'm only on it on the grounds that no other lynches are feasible and

Furc admits it's a gambit

also, Silver might very well flip scum

Query: What do you do if Furc comes out and continues advocating Policy Lynching me? I.E: It's not a gambit, he actually wants to PL me?

why would he seriously want to PL you?

we'll cross that bridge should we get to it, but should that eventuality occur then I'll have to start questioning him since that would have been just as bad as silver's sheep

This is true. Everything I said was truthful, and not a lie.
I didn't want LLD coming into the thread, taking over, and forcing out 10 pages in a day... but hey, what's done is done.

how he was like "well, guys, let's wait to see if Furc's vote was a gambit"... definite scumpoints.

what do you mean 'Let's wait'

My vote was placed before you turned up, therefore I was not waiting

not that I can see anything wrong with waiting a little extra

Your vote? On Silver?
How come in your iso's #89 to 98 your general statement was something like "Furc looks bad" into "Silver is scum, however, I want to see if Furc gambitted"

Sure, you didn't wait on me to get back before you voted Silver, but did you not say HOWEVER I want to see if Furc gambitted? Are you lying about this?

You don't have to respond
I don't feel like you are bussing SB
I am ok with placing SB at L-1 to see if you might be town, TS

unvote;
vote: SB

[Hiraki]

I can hammer this.

BUT I'D REALLLY PREFER TS.

[Stephoscope]

Vote Count

silverbullet999 (6)- Lady Lambdadelta, Hiraki, Toogeloo, bvoigt, Twistedspoon, Furcolow
Lady Lambdadelta (2) - silverbullet999, NObody Special
Hero764 - Nachomamma
Nobody Special - Number58

Not Voting - Hero764, Kubali Khan, singersigner

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.
Hero764 has been prodded.

[Hiraki]

NO.

I REALIZED I COULDN'T HAMMER IT.

GAH FFS.

[Twistedspoon]

How come in your iso's #89 to 98 your general statement was something like "Furc looks bad" into "Silver is scum, however, I want to see if Furc gambitted"

at the start of those ISO posts the possibility of a gambit hadn't occured to me

Then I realised that what has happened has happened and Silver didn't look mighty good sheeping a PL and he might have fallen bait to a gambit

after that I just wanted to see your original intentions but there was little left to do

some more nacho would be nice I guess

I can hammer this.

BUT I'D REALLLY PREFER TS.

what else is new?

[silverbullet999]

SB: In your 872 you state you are a townie, what is the point in even saying that in this setup?

To prove the point as to why she's hazardous...

anyone wanna work a deal... I'll gladly self vote at this point if it's guaranteed you make LLD the second lynch if I flip town.

Still holds true

[Twistedspoon]

anyone wanna work a deal... I'll gladly self vote at this point if it's guaranteed you make LLD the second lynch if I flip town.

Still holds true

what does LLD have to say to this?

[Kublai Khan]

Update: Okay.. I'm on page 30 and there's been 4 new pages since I last posted yesterday.

I would love to visit each one of your homes and disable the "clicky-clacky" of your keyboards, BECAUSE GODDAMN YOU PEOPLE LOVE TO HEAR YOURSELF TYPE!

Succintness people.. please.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

anyone wanna work a deal... I'll gladly self vote at this point if it's guaranteed you make LLD the second lynch if I flip town.

Still holds true

what does LLD have to say to this?

What should I say to it?

As a person, I would gladly accept this trade.

As a member of the town, it's ridiculous. On the off chance I'm wrong and he IS actually town (and a horribad town at that), it would be playing against my win condition to let myself be lynched if he flips town.

Let me say that again. It's playing against your win condition to advocate your own lynch. Regardless of alignment, besides survivor.

[Furcolow]

besides jester/fool, you mean?

unvote

for now. KK catching up before lynch > KK killed in the night during catchup

[Lady Lambdadelta]

Er, yeah. Sorry. Meant Jester. Said Survivor. >.<

[silverbullet999]

Let me say that again. It's playing against your win condition to advocate your own lynch. Regardless of alignment, besides survivor.

Incorrect to martyr oneself as town (especially VT) to get a scum (or someone who is horrible for this town if previous is somehow not true) lynched the next day is playing FOR your win condition.

[Furcolow]

Guys go look at Hero764 in iso
Bus on Meransiel, buddying up with me, wagonning on Apok with no reason other than "two for two"


I agree with Silver here, actually, LLD.
Here's why:
When you say, sure, lynch Silver, it actually makes you appear pro-town and you won't be held accountable
when you say, no, I don't know, it shows a lack of conviction and unwillingness to stick your neck out

Now, that may differ from person to person, but I know a guy I used to play with that would regularly make this gambit/deal, and I don't believe he was ever lynched for it.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

You don't read do you?

I said,

on the off chance you flip town

, I would not advocate my own lynch. (Simply because I am town and that plays against my win condition).

but you're scum, so this isn't gonna be a problem anyway.

@Furc: I'm not going to deliberately take a deal in which I know that if I happen to be wrong about Silver, then I must roll over and die. As a member of town, that is the WORST thing I can do. It's a matter of opinion, and I see where you are coming from, but I stick by my opinion on the matter.

Doesn't change the fact that I am firm in my belief that silver will flip scum. It's just that you can never be 100% in mafia. Only 99.

[Furcolow]

The thing is, though, taking this deal doesn't mean you actually have to cash in on it... trust me.
90% of people won't hold you accountable. It is really rather a town tell to stick your neck out.

[Lady Lambdadelta]

The thing is, though, taking this deal doesn't mean you actually have to cash in on it... trust me.
90% of people won't hold you accountable. It is really rather a town tell to stick your neck out.

I'll remember this then?

Of course, if the person doing it knows it is a "town tell", can't it be used by scum to appear town?

In any case, I'll repeat. I do see what you are saying, I just disagree. I don't think either of us are wrong... just different in this case.

[Furcolow]

It's more of a man's thing to do. I wouldn't see a girl doing it as having the same outcome, as genders are wired differently.
The above might sound sexist, but it is not my intention. Also, if you keep it in mind, don't talk about it too much. It is definitely something I don't want to become common knowledge, wikified, and ruined.

Yes, scum could do it. That is why I don't really want it thrown out there all that much. You are right to say "I'll remember this" as opposed to "well, fine, lynch me if he isn't town"... the reason being because knowing about this changes everything.

having no knowledge of it, and doing it, I'd be sure you were town
doing it after I said "this would make you look town", it really would lessen the extent of your towniness shining

[Nobody Special]

Okay. I went back and actually

re-read

all fortyninebajillion pages of muckymuck back and forth.

I'm good for a SilverBullet lynch.

unvote

Vote: SilverBullet

That's L-1 (again).

[Twistedspoon]

>_>

no, you just hammered

post 1077 shows he was already on L-1

[Twistedspoon]

did you seriously think that was l-1? ¬_¬

[Nobody Special]

And in 1084, Furc unvoted. Skim much?

[Twistedspoon]

oh, I didn't see it sorry

I always put my votes with a blank line above and below so I didn't notice

It's a bad habit I have

nevermind then

[Twistedspoon]

so what was the point in Furc unvoting, though if you just put silver back at L-1 :/

[Nobody Special]

Because I just

re-read all that shit.

Seriously, are you even reading this page? Or the thread? Skimmy scummy, don't make me vote you tomorrow.

[Hiraki]

He unvoted so no one would hammer.

Did you read?