This is somewhat of a post by post analysis of Jason, but not really. I'm going to point out specific points and explain in depth why I feel a flip on him is valuable. Here we go.
Post 17:
Jason attacks rocky with decent reasoning and quickly puts a vote up on him. Nothing much to add here, but if Jason flips scum, it's unlikely that Rocky\Rocky's replacement is also scum.
(POST 22) eh? how do you know he used a generator to decide who to vote? I saw nothing suggesting this.....am I missing something at 3am here?
have i missed something or where you just speculating he was?
Nothing incredibly scummy, but this post shows signs of Jason's nervousness\cautiousness, a trait that (as you'll see later) never appears in his other posts. That's not his personality at all, and it's very, very odd.
POST 32 time aside, I actually did not know what had been meant as there was no mention of a random generator that I knew about and was slightly confused as to how he knew one was used... turns out afterwards that Mersenne Twister was a randomizer site. I didn't know that.
Jason attempts to justify his claims, and still acts slightly nervous\shy as I stated before. Let's keep on going.
POST 36 I fail to understand what your asking sorry..or even why.
hope this helps, however I fail to understand your asking.
Again, we find the trait of kindness\being apologetic here again. This is still very important to note. You all with me?
POST 41 note the bold...
he says scum are careful and precise in what they say... then says about how he is cautious..
Yea, scumslip!
Well, one thing to note is that he quickly accuses me of a "scumslip", on a very shaky basis.
47 ummm he did actually give reasoning... are you paying attention?
I see nothing wrong with what he said about getting onto the bandwagon, he has legitiment reasons given in that very post... Now if he just came on and said I can get on this wagon and voted with no interaction or comments then yes, it would be scummy.
Also, why the hell where you still in RVS mode? there is plenty of discussion going.
the fact you ignore a lot of it strikes me as odd and just pick one thing and vote is worrying..
there is so much to talk about yet you seem to ignore it to push weak sauce....
"Are you even paying attention?" "Why the hell are you still in RVS mode?" "there is so much to talk about yet you seem to ignore it to push weak sauce". blatant attacking.
48: but Matt and now Morgi have shot up my scum list dramatically already
I think this quote is pretty important. Jason makes another attempt to jump on the two easy targets. (Yes, at this point, I believe that Mogri and I were.) He also claims that we've shot up his scum list dramatically, implying that something after he had previously accused me (and I had yet to reply) had made him suspicious. His reasoning is bland and confusing.
51: Mogri,, what do you think of the Matt contradiction that looks like a scum slip to me?
Probably the only townie post that Jason has ever made in this thread. He actually tries to get a reaction\explanation instead of mindlessly tunelling, but..
87: Posting will be staggered next few days, started a new job this morning and worked close to 12 hours... exhausted so will be catching up tomorrow.
Two days later..
will catch up later today, been working last 2 days flat out so not had a chance to read.
A couple of hours later
107 h ok, sorry this question seemed to be at Rocky considering it said @Rocky.. so how can you keep your vote on me for asking a question that was not aimed at me? anyway.
I think it the most solid read at the minute and I have already outlined my reasonings behind it a few times which is easy to see why.. Is there another case out there that is stronger? or that you at least feel is stronger?
Jason claims to be "re-reading" and implying that he'll do something informative, but he states the same, exact, pointless thing that I'm a "strong scum read" and doesn't even bother replying to the posts that have addressed him.
I'll give him the benefit of doubt by saying that later he
did
end up responding to those posts, but in a delayed, rushed manner.
Post 116: Morgi - town points for unvoting rocky when he left to give replacement time to catch up..
His next post:
ok, this caught my eye with a big red scummy as hell flag
Statistics mean nothing in the individual game.. lynching someone based on W/L ratio as scum or town is obsurd and very very scummy. I don't like how he disguises it with 'idle banter'
unvote
vote:Morgi
Jason completely ignores the "town points" he gave to Mogri prior and tries to vote him because of an idle banter. Keep in mind, that this was the start of the Mogri wagon, he led it.
POST 130: in fact you will see that I have said I believe his confusion to be genuiene.. the only reason I was questioning him on it was to get an understanding of his thoughts.. I never once made it a part of my case at all against him... my main belief is that he has scum slipped.
The post above is talking about me. He says that he believes my confusion to be genuine, but then proceeds to say I scum-slipped. His reasoning for my "scum slip" was based off of that confusion. Contradiction.
POST 134:
also, Mog... nice ducking here
nice way to answer without actually answering! any reason why you didn't actually answer yet danced around it so merrily
Something that I've been working up is that Jason rapidly changes personality. He goes from a "nice, nervous gentle guy" from an aggresive and rapid finger pointing madman. (that probably came out wrong.) My point is, that he acts as if he's bipolar. I believe that he is scum who can't decide which way to truthfully act, so he mixes up both of those. Forced.
POST 167: Complete and utter lie, we have both addressed each other.
After Jason is accused of not interacting with MOI, he responds with this, but refuses to give any kind of proof, and even after being asked,
never does.
Dodging the questions.
POST 202: im back from a busy weekend, will be posting content later today. Got a few things to do first
His next two posts for the day..
POST 207: No one should hammer, until Jerako has had time to catch up and give his thoughts.
POST 209: Like MOI I am not going to repeat my reasoning... I believe I have given my views enough already for you to understand why I am voting you and believe you to be scum.
Feigning helpfulness after refusing to follow through with what you said is always the best second option, right?
"I'm going to post a ton of content later today. Oh, and I refuse to explain my reasoning ever again."
Bud-dying with MOI and giving us yet ANOTHER COP OUT.
Post 222: Morgi saying people avoid answering things... ironic eh?
Ironic indeed.
POST 243: Morgi, read the game you will see I have had interaction with MOI... I also have answered the question.
Also, L-1 is not premature.
Feigning helpfulness\kindness previously, but now when accused of something (that could allegedly be true), he plugs his ears and just says "NO I DIDN'T. FIND IT YOURSELF."
Post 253: DIE SCUM DIE!!!
I refuse to repeat my reasoning, but I'm so sure you're scum that I'm going to make such a huge statement and tunnel on you.
POST 276: @MOI... as scum, what benefit would I get out of pushing someone (as scum) I knew was town on day 1? surely as scum I would have known I would be drawing heat right off the bat day 2?
This is Jason's first post after Mogri flipped townie. Instead of just going "you know what, sometimes I'm wrong, deal with it.", he makes a pathetic excuse and uses wifom as his argument. Gah.
POST 282: look back at me in ISO, you will see all the 'Evedience' you need to show why I suspected him.. but to name a few
1) naming me top suspect but not voting me - seemed very non committal
2) self voting - scum tell to me
3)avoiding questions
4) misrepping by saying I had not answered questions which I had and proved
5) Misrepping me by saying I had no interaction with MOI which i had and proved.
6) his general anti-town play noted by not only me but others.
7) His only scum reads where those who suspected him OMGUS Much?
Matt you had me as your 'FOS' and noted several times you found me scummy, yet no vote.. your vote was on sisterman but no more votes after you unvoted. Forgive me for not buying ' it was mearly a mistake' you did not have a vote on me.
vote: Matt
Here are his "reasons" for believing that Mogri was scum, but most of these things he doesn't even point out until today, the day where they DON'T MATTER AT ALL.
God, that was a pain to write and I am going to be so mad if it's accidentally erased somehow, but I feel I've made my point.
TO SUMMARIZE:
Jason does these things in these many posts:
A.
Tunnels mindlessly.
B.
Jumps on the easy targets and looks for excuses to do so.
C.
Refuses to back up his reasoning again. (probably because he can't remember what it was that let him get on the BW.)
D.
FREQUENTLY switches personalities.
And given the fact that Jason is about to start his ever-so entertaining tunnel on me, I conclude that he is either a useless townie or a scum. Either way, I believe that Jason had to be rid of today, or I'll probably lose my mind. Yes, I am now pushing, but only because I feel incredibly strongly about this lynch and he is my primary suspect.
Also, this was my first time on forum mafia attempting to go through somebody's posts and find all the little fallacies\contradictions, so I probably had some shaky wording or I messed up a few times. But either way, don't take what I say lightly.
