Open 302: JUNGLE REPUB nope game over! Party time!

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question: do scum and werewolf factions get daytalk?

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nvm, read the sample role PM's

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I see no problem with voting now

VOTE: neil

first thing I'd do as mafia would be to get the knowledge of my own faction wrong

also, I remember you requesting in the open queue to be in a killing faction. That's evidence for both mafioso and werewolf and pretty good so far considering we haven't officially started yet

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How so?

he could be mafia since he seems to have got knowledge of the scum faction wrong. That's what I'd do if i were mafia. Get knowledge of my faction wrong to make it look like I wasn't mafia

yeah, the reasoning isn't the best, but it's not bad considering the game hasn't even started yet

also, forget the werewolf bit. I suppose the roles were randomly generated, so we can ignore neil's request for being in a killing faction pre-game

So you think the best move for Neil (8 months on MS) in an Open game is to specifically pretend he doesn’t understand the roles as a Gambit. When the result is you immediately jumping on him that exact thing.

I never said it would be the best thing to do, but it sure would be what I'd do

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@Twistedspoon -

1) What gives you the impression that this is a scum gambit instead of a mistake due to inexperience?

I never said it would be the best thing to do, but it sure would be what I'd do

2) So, do you or do you not think that would've been the best thing to do? If not, then why would you have done it?

3) Also, you haven't answered my previous question. You said that him requesting to be in a killing faction in the queue was evidence that he was scum in this game. Why?

1) nothing, how could it? There's no way to tell for certain that it's a gambit. However it makes a very respectable RVS wagon
2) I'm not sure If it'd be the

best

thing. Magna seems to think not. I'd have done it to distance myself from the scum faction were I scum
3) I've reconsidered and I think it's shoddy evidence now that I remember random.org has been used to generate the roles. I doubt our mod would take role requests, especially ones that were posted in the open queue for all to see :p

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I never said it would be the best thing to do, but it sure would be what I'd do

1. Do you have sufficent reason to think (meta-wise) that neil’s thought processes closely mirror your own?
2. Thank you for giving me a reason to lynch you if I ever see you make a mistake on ‘facts’ about an open game set-up in regards to the Mafia faction(s).

1) i don't know neil's meta
2) well i wasn't going to lynch him based on that fact, only an RVS wagon. But hey, feel free to suspect me should I try that tactic. I can't help feeling that I'd have dug my own grave though

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I have limited experience with Twisted but it does give me a general feel for his play.

donner party vig? :p

VOTE: Hezlucky

Lucky scum more like

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hmm

if this game had only one scum faction I'd be tempted to say one of neil/empking/magna has to be scum after these interactions

however it's more complicated since there's 2

hmmm

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looks too strong to be town v town in my experience and It looks too disorganised and 3-way to be a bus

however I don't know what to think since we have 2 scum factions :/

need more opinions. Looks like just you 3 so far

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Neil's been posting an awful lot. Empking's been posting an awful lot. I don't think they're both Town

that's what I said :0

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got a prod

will catch up

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wow, this is a hard game to read backwards

IIoA is strongest in a game with a single scum faction, so I see it than little more than a null-tell so far

my unreliable gut is giving me mixed signals today

however, I'm willing to wager that magna is probably town due to meta

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also, I'm not buying the Empking scum business

to side with my gut I'd be voting kabuto or neil; both of who's flip I would be extremely interested in

VOTE: kabuto

I guess I'll have to justify this soon. Gut probably doesn't suffice alone, 11 pages in. You deserve more from me, I'll admit

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so..

I think empking is less likely to be scum than kabuto right now :/

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wait.. why are you the top NK target?

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what's to say that you're not mafioso and werewolfs are keeping you alive because they think you're lynchable?

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my main reason for suspecting you is gut...
and I'm hard pushed to find another scum read :/

It is normal for people to say that the inactives/lurkers are more scummy that noone at all.

what do you mean noone at all? How can someone be scummier than noone?

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This is clearly not Town Twisted I am seeing.

the difference?

I believe only one game we have played previously together, assuming you haven't meta'd myself

and my playstyle as confirmed town is rather different

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That was just a side-statement. Now answer my question :@

i did

the answers are gut and that I'm hard pushed for a better place to stick my vote

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claim VT

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have I been hammered?