Open 290 - Double Day (Game Over)

[bvoigt]

I have never seen a townie play like nacho has done.

Hopefully won't again

Actually...I didn't see this before. Doesn't the bolded say that Nacho is definitely town?

If there's a slip, it's more of "I have never seen a townie play like nacho has done." rather than "Hopefully won't again."

Think about it...does the word "again" make any sense if he's never seen it before and he doesn't know Nacho is town?

This makes it very unlikely that Nacho is scum.

[Kublai Khan]

Deal accepted?
Okay.

No. No deal.

It's a shitty fucking deal. Let's not forget that Nachomamma8 promised 4 analysis reports after his day 1 gambit and only delivered two. Then he demands this deal, but doesn't have a lynch candidate ready to go? All we've gotten so far is "Number58 is town" report?

This "deal" idea just screams of stalling-scum. A pro-town player wouldn't even suggest such a deal if they didn't have a suspect ready to push. Nachomamma8 is just stalling for time to look for a scapegoat.

Nachomamma8 should be the lynch today considering how strongly he tried to stop the Twistedspoon lynch. I understand that Nobody Special has been background scummy the whole game, but let's take a serious look at the scum-relationships (which are very much all we have to go on in a mountainous game).

Nacho-Spoon connections

Nachomamma8
Iso 1 - Twistedspoon vanished from Nachomamma8's Day 1 lynch-lists on the second posting (before Starbuck).
Iso 11 - States that he put the mods on his lynch brackets to catch those not paying attention. Twistedspoon had only caught one of the mods. Nachomamma8 made no note of this.
Iso 29 - Twistedspoon is among the top preferred candidates for lynching at the beginning of Day 1.5. (But doesn't vote him)
Iso 30 - "Yes. I feel Twisted is town..." (WTF?)
Iso 31 - Backpedals. States that he listed Twistedspoon as a lynch candidate to spur singersigner to post a case against him.
Iso 37 - "TS is now obvtown"
Iso 40 - "TS is town for putting his heart and soul into lynching Meran day .5 then never pointing back to that fact once he came under fire. He's also town for telling me that I need to explain more reads because Meransiel was an easy target even though he was scum. Scum, if bussing, like to take credit for it. TS has shown beautiful town modesty, and I will not let him get lynched because of it. Also, the whole dismissal of Hiraki was pretty damn townie."
Iso 48 - last minute defending of Twistedspoon and last minute attempt at wagon switching.

Recap.. Nachomamma8 calls Twistedspoon scum way too early. Lists him as a lynching prospect then "Whoops, I meant you should post a case on him LOL!". Lists Twistedspoon as obv-town for blowing off Hiraki, even though Twistedspoon gave a huge wall refuting Hiraki with nothing but "Hiraki is untrustworthy because she thought Meransiel was town" garbage.

Recap of the recap. Nachomamma8 is scum.

[Nobody Special]

Recap of the recap. Nachomamma8 is scum.

THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING.

[Kublai Khan]

Vote: Nachomamma8

Forgot to do that.

[silverbullet999]

Nacho's lack of response is reminding me of a certain twisted person...

But Nobody... is.... Nobody...

grrr

[Toogeloo]

Who cares... lynch one, then lynch the other >_> ... I got the impression Nacho was town because of his Meran push on Day 0.5, but if the evidence is there that he is suspicious enough to lynch, then let's just do it. Or, let's lynch NS and then Nacho.

If this makes it to LyLo with the Scum only getting one Night Kill every two Days, then we fucked up somewhere.

[Nobody Special]

If this makes it to LyLo with the Scum only getting one Night Kill every two Days, then we fucked up somewhere.

This. SO this.

We need more Nacho votes, though.

[silverbullet999]

finee nobody next morning if nacho's not scum

VOTE: Nacho cheese

[Toogeloo]

Unvote;
Vote: Nacho

[singersigner]

Vote: Nobody Special

11-1 Town split, time to start culling out the baddies.

Who do you consider "the baddies"?

[Nobody Special]

Does his vote, in the post IMMEDIATELY ABOVE YOURS, not answer your question? I mean,

really.

[Nikanor]

I could still go for a Toog lynch, actually.

[singersigner]

Does his vote, in the post IMMEDIATELY ABOVE YOURS, not answer your question? I mean,

really.

I doesn't actually, but thanks.

[Toogeloo]

Vote: Nobody Special

11-1 Town split, time to start culling out the baddies.

Who do you consider "the baddies"?

Pretty much anyone you don't think is town is a "baddie." Cull the risks, we got a ten man advantage.

If that means me, then kill me. Not like I really got attached to this game.

Way I see it. We got a lynch today, then scum kills tonight if we are wrong. Then we got two more lynches tomorrow, then another Night kill. Two more lynches, then another kill... which would bring the population down to 4.

Essentially, town gets 6 Mislynches before LyLo. So yeah, cull the baddies out.

[Toogeloo]

Vote Count

silverbullet999 (6)- Lady Lambdadelta, Hiraki, Toogeloo, bvoigt, Twistedspoon, Furcolow
Lady Lambdadelta (2) - silverbullet999, NObody Special
Hero764 - Nachomamma
Nobody Special - Number58

Not Voting - Hero764, Kubali Khan, singersigner

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.
Hero764 has been prodded.

Vote Count

silverbullet999 (6)- Lady Lambdadelta, Hiraki, Toogeloo, bvoigt, Twistedspoon, Nobody Special
Nobody Special (2) - Number58, Furcolow
Lady Lambdadelta - silverbullet999
Hero764 - Nachomamma

Not Voting - Hero764, Kubali Khan, singersigner

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.

Silver was 1 vote away from being lynched for a while. We know that TSscum was on the wagon, possibility of another scum on the wagon, hoping for one more town to hammer... yay or nay?

Vote Count

silverbullet999 (4)- Lady Lambdadelta, bvoigt, Twistedspoon, Nobody Special
Twistedspoon (3) - Kublai Khan, Hiraki, Toogeloo
Nobody Special (2) - Number58, Furcolow
Lady Lambdadelta - silverbullet999
Hero764 - Nachomamma

Not Voting - Hero764, singersigner

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.

The start of the Twistedspoon lynch highly suggests Kublai Khan and Hiraki as town.

Vote Count

silverbullet999 (4)- Lady Lambdadelta, bvoigt, Twistedspoon, Nobody Special
Hero764 (3) - Nachomamma, Furcolow, singersigner
Twistedspoon (2) - Kublai Khan, Toogeloo
Nobody Special (2) - Number58
Hiraki - silverbullet999

Not Voting - Hero764

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.

Hiraki hops off (?), not sure where his vote disappeared to since it's not listed under Not Voting either. Twistedspoon still not in any danger. The other scum is likely on Hero or silver trying to keep the mislynch a possibility.

Vote Count

singersigner (3) - Nachomamma, Furcolow, Hiraki
silverbullet999 (2)- Lady Lambdadelta, Nobody Special
Hero764 (2) - singersigner, Twistedspoon
Twistedspoon (2) - Kublai Khan, Toogeloo
Nobody Special - Number58
Hiraki - silverbullet999
Number58 - bvoigt

Not Voting - Hero764

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.
Looking for a replacement for Hero764.

Just more of the same likelihood that the last scum is probably on one of the leading wagons to keep a higher chance of mislynchability.

Vote Count

Twistedspoon (4) - Kublai Khan, Toogeloo, Hiraki, Nikanor
singersigner (2) - Nachomamma, Furcolow
silverbullet999 (2)- Lady Lambdadelta, Nobody Special
Hero764 (2) - singersigner, Twistedspoon
Nobody Special - Number58
Hiraki - silverbullet999
Number58 - bvoigt

Not Voting -

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
The current deadline is Tuesday, May 3rd, 8PM EST.

Kublai, Hiraki, and Nik are all pretty damn likely town considering they are the ones that got the momentum on Twistedspoon. Silver is most likely town as well considering he was so close to being lynched with scum on his wagon.





I think Furc is probably town still, as well as bvoigt.

So any of the following should be lynched in any order over the next 6 lynches:
Nacho
NS
Toog
LLD
singer
#58

So if we have 6 Mislynches available, and we go through this pile of suspects, then something has gone terribly wrong.

[Hiraki]

LARITOOOOOOO

[Nachomamma8]

It's a shitty fucking deal. Let's not forget that Nachomamma8 promised 4 analysis reports after his day 1 gambit and only delivered two. Then he demands this deal, but doesn't have a lynch candidate ready to go? All we've gotten so far is "Number58 is town" report?

This "deal" idea just screams of stalling-scum. A pro-town player wouldn't even suggest such a deal if they didn't have a suspect ready to push. Nachomamma8 is just stalling for time to look for a scapegoat.

A scapegoat. When I'm the person who's being FIRST.
I know who I want lynched. I'm just being sure of it since I'm giving my LIFE for it.
There's absolutely no reason at all not to go along with the plan. Absolutely none.

[Nachomamma8]

Nacho's lack of response is reminding me of a certain twisted person...

Tue May 03, 2011 10:02 pm

Wed May 04, 2011 7:20 pm

>.>

[Nachomamma8]

Here, let me put my ranting in a separate post so everyone can read it.

I know that I have a damning connection with TwistedSpoon. As a result, I should not live until LyLo because scum aren't going to kill me, meaning that you guys will eventually have to lynch me for it. But, I'm still a good scumhunter, and I'm sure I can peg the last scum with two flipped scum and 57 pages of posting.

In other words, lynch me and make me CONFIRMED TOWN.
And let me lead the next lynch it is guided purely by CONFIRMED TOWN.

We have 5 lynches to go.
You're going to use one on me.
That means there's going to be 4 lynches left to hit one scum.
Why not let me use one of those to win us the game again? Why is this such an anti-town plan?

Toog and NS should be fine with this plan because they really don't give a fuck who is lynched.
KK should be fine with this plan because he wanted me to lead when I was "obvtown", so he should be fine with me leading when I am CONFIRMED TOWN.
Hiraki should be fine with this plan because he'll be getting his E-COCK lynch in exchange for giving me one of mine.
singersinger should be fine with this plan because of MoCo.
Bvoigt should be fine with this plan because of Outdoorsman Mafia 2.

[Hiraki]

BUT I'VE DECIDED YOU'RE NOT SCUM.

NS IS SCUM.

[Kublai Khan]

Nachomamma8 is just stalling for time to look for a scapegoat.

A scapegoat. When I'm the person who's being FIRST.
I know who I want lynched. I'm just being sure of it since I'm giving my LIFE for it.
There's absolutely no reason at all not to go along with the plan. Absolutely none.

Yeah, you just spent 3 posts complaining about me not liking your plan and 0 posts actually listing who you think is scum.

You're stalling because you're hoping the heat on you will die down and maybe later on people will like the fake-case you'll present better.

So quit stalling for time. Make your case. And if you flip town and your case is good, maybe we'll listen to it. Stop bullshitting around about deals and post.

[singersigner]

Drunk posting.

[Starbuck]

Vote Count

Nachomamma (4) - Nobody Special, Kublai Khan, silverbullet999, Toogeloo
Nobody Special (4) - Nachomamma8, Nikanor, bvoigt, Hiraki
Singersigner - LLD


Not Voting - singersigner, Number58, Furcolow

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Tuesday, May 24th at 8PM EST.
Searching for a replacement for Number58.

[bvoigt]

BUT I'VE DECIDED YOU'RE NOT SCUM.

NS IS SCUM.

[Hiraki]

Guys. Get the fuck off Nacho. This is a direct order from me, and you must obey it.