Mini 1166: Town Hall Mafia (GAME OVER)

[C-Worl]

Confirm

Vote: Rhinox

He has the second shortest name other than mine. I don't know any of you people. That means you owe me candy.

[C-Worl]

I'm new here.

Vote: C-Worl

Hi.

Unvote; Vote: th3kuzinator

OMGUS beyotch.

[C-Worl]

LAL?

[C-Worl]

I appreciate people who gambit successfully and catch scum with it. My friend Kise used one not too long ago that caught scum in a game I played. I personally have never tried gambits but I could try one in the future. Mafia's a bit tricky and sometimes you've got to lie in order to catch the scum.

[C-Worl]

I've only played a hand full of games here so far so my opinion might not be the best one.

[C-Worl]

^Yes?

[C-Worl]

I'm starting to feel better about that joke vote. Best way to learn our policies is to just play on here long enough. Right now you're just adding fluff and trying to figure out the status quo here so that you can use it to look town later.

[C-Worl]

And there we go. Someone announces serious suspicion of you and suddenly you become GIJoe. U mad brah? Yah u mad. 1 Scum caught. Now who are your mates?

[C-Worl]

And there we go. Some new guy responds to his posts in a mildly-aggressive tone and suddenly I'm GIJoe.

Way to dodge the actual meat of my response.

Tis cool though. I'll just wait to see who comes to chainsaw you.

The meat of your response was basically you saying, "I'm like rubber you're like glue..." etc.

[C-Worl]

You asked a question in 19. I answered it. I was unaware that you would continue to post meaningless fluff. As you did in 23 and 27. You asked a meaningless question, we answered it, and you kept on talking about a meaningless subject. Also, announcing that you're new to the site in your first post is something that I personally frown upon anyway but I was gonna let it slide until you started constantly throwing it into people's face by asking said meaningless questions and then trying to side step my point by saying "Some new guy..." blah blah. So yeah, who are your mates?

[C-Worl]

I agree with FtF's point against Sab. (even though I over looked it as part of the RVS the first time around) Thanks for pointing it out.

@IAAUN, any particular reason for that town read. I won't argue it (since I am town) I'm just curious what warranted it.

[C-Worl]

all C-Worl is trying to do is appeal to emotion.

Where did I try to AtE?

How many players are there in this game?

9, how does that answer my question?

[C-Worl]

Oh I get it. I asked kuz who his mates are. As in plural. Therefore IAAUN sees that I already think their could be 3 or more on the scum team. He asks me how many players are in the game because he's certain that there are only 2 scum in a 9 person game. Therefore he characterizes my ignorance as a towntell.

Did I get it right IAAUN?

[C-Worl]

y no kuz vote?

[C-Worl]

@Cworl & FtF: What's your read on rhinox based on 59?

He's either scum or over eager townie. Not sure which right now. The first warrants a lynch (obviously) the second is something I've been guilty of so I can let it slide.

[C-Worl]

@Fishy, Kuz's actions feel scummy yet you're not voting kuz. Why does Emp's post feel scummier than kuz's?

[C-Worl]

Kus needs more votes please. kthxbye

[C-Worl]

C-W:
Sorry, not ready to compromise, not while Rhinox is being this slimy. (Most recently: voting for ThA because ThA *agreed* with the case Rhinox was making.)    
Though while we're waiting, if you assume kuz to be guilty, who do you think his partner might be?

I'm trying to narrow down the suspects. Fishface is at the top of the list but I'm undecided.

[C-Worl]

Whenever I'm scum and a wagon builds on me my scum team starts telling me to lie low and let the heat dissipate. (On sites where we get to day talk) Though, he may have real life shit that's keeping him from posting. It's a scumtell but not the best. If he's been posting in other games it's definitely a tell but if he hasn't been posting on the site then we should assume it's unrelated to the game.

[C-Worl]

Last post was on the 8th. Real life may have come up.

[C-Worl]

True.

[C-Worl]

^ My own personal answer to the last question (even though it wasn't asked of me) is yes, I wanted kuz to claim. Everyone should claim at L1.

[C-Worl]

And there we go.

Some new guy

responds

Kuz tried to play the newbie card on himself. I acknowledged at the beginning that I didn't know anyone. So the only way I can see this point is that he assumed I was coming after him for being a newbie and he defended himself by saying "some new guy"

[C-Worl]

why would ThAd care to point out that kuz didn't claim at L-1 then if he doesn't care about claims before lynches?

Because there's a difference in context. He can not care about the claim at L1 (bc anyone can fake claim at L1 and it's easier than some make it sound) but the fact that Kuz DIDN'T claim shows that he needed time to MAKE a good fake claim (Good ones take time) It's scummy as hell.

Hypothetically.

If I got you to L1 and you claimed VT let's pretend I wouldn't care. It wouldn't shift my opinion one way or the other bc it's an easy fake claim. Same with claiming other common roles like Cop, Doctor, and Tracker. Because normally if you were one of those roles you should have been smart enough not to draw enough attention to be put at L1. So your claim wouldn't really be something that I cared about. HOWEVER, being put at L1 and NOT claiming gives off tremendous scummy vibes bc there are people who were asking for it. If you were town the simple reaction should be I'm [] with no thought really needed to be put into it.

[C-Worl]

Because there's a difference in context. He can not care about the claim at L1 (bc anyone can fake claim at L1 and it's easier than some make it sound) but the fact that Kuz DIDN'T claim shows that he needed time to MAKE a good fake claim (Good ones take time) It's scummy as hell.

I don't think kuz didn't claim because he needs days to make a "good fake claim." All it takes is a couple of minutes at most, so I don't see this as any argument at all. It's been 5 days since he hasn't posted so I am assuming by the rules we are going to get a replacement.

Just... no. Easy fake claims can be though up in second but won't always accomplish the purpose of killing a wagon. GOOD fake claims can take forever to get right but once done will derail almost any wagon against you.

[C-Worl]

Hey Archaist who is your partner?

[C-Worl]

My right hand and sometimes a pastrami sandwich.

Oh you mean, yeah, lol, town. (Iseewatudidthur)

[C-Worl]

Unvote; Vote: TheAdmiral

Let's just lynch him so we can get the game moving forward.

[C-Worl]

I'm sorry, sue me for wanting to move the game along. I wasn't convinced of Adscum but I'm also not convinced of Adtown. The game needed to move forward and we were at a stalemate. I broke the stalemate. Sue me for it.

[C-Worl]

So regardless of anyone else you would've OMGUSd me? Good to know.

[C-Worl]

I voted you because you jumped on a wagon you didn't believe in to try to push a lynch through in a game where people have been posting pretty regularly. It was opportunistic and scummy. I don't buy the whole "push things forward" bs.

Yes because over ten hours between the post where I did that and the last post in the game before that shows that people were definitely posting regularly.

[C-Worl]

Yeah, can we not do this? C-Worl is town, ThAd is town, let's all rewind a little and notice how Archaist's catch-up post was a whole lot of words that said absolutely nothing and lynch him instead.

Sorry.

Unvote; Vote: Archaist

BTW, Archaist didn't properly read the thread, scumtell.

[C-Worl]

C-Worl is town, ThAd is town

If you're going to name people town or scum it would be helpful to give some reasons first. You sound really sure of yourself, too sure for it to be just a gut feeling.

Archaist isn't reading the thread. Don't assume to know what I'm talking about.

[C-Worl]

If you would read the thread like you claimed to have then you would have seen it.

[C-Worl]

Oh I get it. I asked kuz who his mates are. As in plural. Therefore IAAUN sees that I already think their could be 3 or more on the scum team. He asks me how many players are in the game because he's certain that there are only 2 scum in a 9 person game. Therefore he characterizes my ignorance as a towntell.

Did I get it right IAAUN?

Maybe instead of ISOs you should read the whole damn game? Oh wait, you didn't because as scum you don't feel motivated to do a complete reread because you already know who is and is not scum. Where as a townie that replaced in would reread because they're in a position of less intelligence. If you're not even going to bother reading I won't bother replying to you. This is my last post in response to you. Now go find your rope so we can use it to hang you.

[C-Worl]

6. C-Worl:

all C-Worl is trying to do is appeal to emotion

And push quicklynches by doing so, as I've already pointed out. Most recently refusing to give me a single quote to back up his statements, instead opting to say "you didn't read." You would think that presenting evidence would be to his benefit, especially since he was accusing me of not presenting enough. Instead just a "no, I'm done talking to you," emotional much? The most impatient player in this game. Impatient for lynching, impatient in answering questions, and vote switching when iamausername says so. Leaning Scum.

I DID QUOTE THE DAMN REASONING! READ THE FUCKING THREAD!

[C-Worl]

Archaist is town to me, and Kuz was over eager town. I'm basing this on my own experience as newbtown and am not seeing him as scum at the moment. I'd rather you didn't push me to consider Archaist scum.

Yeah, that doesn't work since he's not a newb. New to site does not equal new to mafia and this point has been brought up. Your basing him being town from something that was denied by Kuz himself. If you don't see him as scum that's all well and good because we all interpret things differently but if him being a newb is what you're basing your interpretations off of then you need to reconsider them.

[C-Worl]

more so than for doing anything really scummy. archaist I'm null on right now.

He apparently didn't properly read the thread after claiming to. Then, once I finally quoted the reasoning that he failed to read he attacked me for something I said in the post where I quoted that reasoning yet still claimed that I hadn't quoted the reasoning. He's not reading the thread.

[C-Worl]

Oh I get it. I asked kuz who his mates are. As in plural. Therefore IAAUN sees that I already think their could be 3 or more on the scum team. He asks me how many players are in the game because he's certain that there are only 2 scum in a 9 person game. Therefore he characterizes my ignorance as a towntell.

Did I get it right IAAUN?

Maybe instead of ISOs you should read the whole damn game? Oh wait, you didn't because as scum you don't feel motivated to do a complete reread because you already know who is and is not scum. Where as a townie that replaced in would reread because they're in a position of less intelligence. If you're not even going to bother reading I won't bother replying to you. This is my last post in response to you. Now go find your rope so we can use it to hang you.

This is the post where I quoted the reasoning.

#161

I forget what the number of the original post was. I asked IAAUN if this lined up with his way of thinking and he confirmed it.

[C-Worl]

@Archaist, yeah sorry for the Ad Hom. I probably came off as an ass in the situation so... yeah. I still think you're scummy due to your predecessor but I'll

Unvote

Since I'm starting to feel genuine attempt from you.

However, I still have a

FOS

on you so do think I'm letting you off the hook. I've just been tunneling and figure that I need to reread.

[C-Worl]

C-Worl:
Ironically, I was just about to say I was ready to compromise on Archaist. What are you seeing to give you pause?

It's not what I was seeing but what I was failing to see. That being any other suspects. I realized I wasn't actually looking at anyone else. I realized I was tunneling and decided to back off. I still think he's scummy but I figured I would back off and see if I made a mistake first.

[C-Worl]

Unvote: Rhinox

Sorry for the doublepost, but just noticed something I want to think through.

IT wasn't a double cuz I ninjad you.

[C-Worl]

I'm bored...

[C-Worl]

Vote: Archaist

We need to lynch someone and Archaist has continued to be my biggest suspect.

[C-Worl]

If the day ends in No Lynch I want people to look at EmpTyger and Mitsuru Kirijo as probscum. If Archaist flips scum down the line I want people to realize Mitsuri Kirijo and EmpTyger are obvscum.

Wrong account sorry.

If the day ends in No Lynch I want people to look at EmpTyger and Mitsuru Kirijo as probscum. If Archaist flips scum down the line I want people to realize Mitsuri Kirijo and EmpTyger are obvscum.

[C-Worl]

My reason for my suspicions is based on us drawing ever faster to deadline. And instead of going for a wagon that appeared it might go somewhere both went to smaller wagons. My belief is they want a No Lynch but don't want it to look like they want a No Lynch.

[C-Worl]

Oh yeah I've heard of it. But assuming we're both scum, what does he stand to gain by bussing my in this situation?

Town points. Which is the whole reason behind bussing.

[C-Worl]

My reason for my suspicions is based on us drawing ever faster to deadline. And instead of going for a wagon that appeared it might go somewhere both went to smaller wagons. My belief is they want a No Lynch but don't want it to look like they want a No Lynch.

Hmmm? It seems the only wagon that qualifies for you as one that might appear to go somewhere is the Archaist wagon - so really here you're pushing that lynch under the guise of trying to get a lynch. And that you are ignoring other people on small wagons - why name Emp and MK over Sab, Rhinox and myself?

archaist was the biggest wagon. That's why. I excluded y'all at the time bc you weren't the ones who voted after Beef's "Day grows near" type post.

Also, logically the best time to buss a buddy is toward the beginning. MK's defense is lolable.

[C-Worl]

Mitsuro's reaction felt like cworl struck a nerve with his comment.

"Why would someone on my wagon be scum?" - blanket statement not referring to anyone specific. Counter-question: Why wouldn't someone on your wagon be scum?

"Considering that aside from Emp, Fishy is the only one with a vote on me, and that no other suspicion has fallen on Emp during Day 1, what does he possibly have to gain by voting a scumbuddy, assuming your theory is correct? You're reaching." - this says a whole lot of nothing. What does it matter that no other suspicion has fallen on emp? that doesn't mean he's not scum (nor that he is). What does he have to lose by voting a scum buddy? Up until my vote, Mitsuro was mostly being ignored and there was no real threat of him being lynched. Scum parking their vote on a scumbuddy who's not under threat of lynch is a good distancing tactic.

Emp unvoting as soon as Mits wagon gets a little momentum is like... *twitch*. Kinda makes me rethink because I believe scum empking would keep bussing at this point if thats really whats going on rather than unvoting, because if mits really is scum, once he flips this would look really bad for emp.

Rhinox is town for this post.

[C-Worl]

iamausername: Had a town read on C-Worl for

one line

(#39).

...but then he goes right back to arguing with C-Worl about how I never explained my town read at all. What the hell?

Catch of the game right here.

[C-Worl]

WEINER!