Charlie the Unicorn Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Haylen]

Game started after Hiraki confirmed. I want a nice, clean, lighthearted game guys. So definately no refering to me as mod (I hate it, if I wanted to be called mod it would be my username). THere's 12 people in the game, so that means 7 votes to shun, for someone to be lynched. Deadline is Thursday 19th May at 9pm GMT time.

SHHUUUUUUUUUUUNNNN

[Charlie]

@Stefunny: Tell me more about your history in unicorn based games.

Shun: ReaperCharlie

Taking sides with tanstalas in his argument with ReaperCharlie.

[Umbrage]

1. No idea. As far as I see it, RVS is a giant null tell. Some people try to totally ignore their buddies, some try to bus.

2. His reasoning is flat out silly. He didn't question anybody else when they confirmed. He claims they don't even know that the game is open, and yet he makes a "serious vote". A simple "Guys, the game might not be open, let's wait for the mod" seems to me to be the logical course of action. Instead he attacks a player who assumed that player X was doing exactly what everyone else before him was doing: confirming. No mention towards the rest of us who also lay votes down, in fact, tans himself fits into this last category by voting RC, when by his own logic, the game might not even be open.

3. Because I wanted to get to the

SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

ing.

[Umbrage]

I said that it seems RC is very confident that 'diddle diddle' was the correct confirmation code and RC posted really shortly after Hiraki, and I was eluding to perhaps the reason he posted so soon after was because RC told Hiraki in a QT topic to hurry up and post his confirmation so they could start.

OK, that really doesn't make sense because it implies that Hiraki would be watching the QT, which he must have gotten from his role PM. If he had his role PM, why wouldn't he confirm?

[kryptinen]

Hola.

Sólo puedo escribir en español y por desgracia yo soy matemático y no lingüista, por lo que sé acerca de tres palabras en español. A partir de ahora todo lo que digo va a ser traducido con traductor Google.

Si los miembros de la mafia puede hablar con los demás ¿por qué no aplazar confirmar de manera que tengan más tiempo para hacer un plan? No creo que sea una buena razón para votar.

Rehuir: Umbarge

No me gusta su actitud.

[Stefunny]

Um, is there a possibility this is a game mechanic? Because it just seems cruel...

[Umbrage]

@ kryptinen: So, you agree with me about tanstalas' vote, yet you vote me because of my attitude? Is that a serious vote?

[Charlie]

Drat. A language post restriction. I believe that is true because of Charlie the Unicorn 2. Add to the fact that I don't believe that kryptinen is

that

cruel or sneaky. Therefore: game mechanic.

[kryptinen]

Me han prohibido hablar Inglés por mi mensaje de papel privado. Una consecuencia grave se ha aludido.

El voto no estaba destinado a ser grave. Estamos todavía una pierna en la etapa de votación al azar.

traducir

[Rhinox]

heh. I knew all those years of spanish classes would pay off someday. Unfortunately, that only gets me about half of the jist of your posts, and going to Google translate every time you post isn't going to work very easily when I'm following the game on my droid, therefore

Shun: kryptinen

[Charlie]

I vehemently protest.

You're shunning based on the fact a player has a post restriction. Very anti-town. Also, I feel this is Town post restriction simply because they're the most common. IMHO, kryptinen is cleared D1.

[Rhinox]

Game Specific Rules.

1:

Expect the Unexpected.

[Charlie]

I saw that too.
My thinking: expect some funky mechanics. I see a post restricted player; this must be one of those things.
Your thinking: expect some funky mechanics. You see a post restricted player; this player could be Mafia just to screw with us.

We have our differences, fine.

[Umbrage]

I vehemently protest.

We have our differences, fine.

What prompted the change?

[Charlie]

I do protest, but I also do not want to engage in a full blown argument over this matter.

Anyway, what's your opinion on this? Have an opinion on weather this PR is likely to be owned be Town or Mafia (or some third party, for that matter)?

[ReaperCharlie]

I vehemently protest.

You're shunning based on the fact a player has a post restriction. Very anti-town. Also, I feel this is Town post restriction simply because they're the most common. IMHO, kryptinen is cleared D1.

So you are completely writing off kryptinen as scum just because he/she has a PR? haaaaa dumb. This kind of pigeonholing is what makes people pay in the end. I wrote off Parama as scum in POWERFUL WIZARD MAFIA because of

this post

, and I MYSELF voted wrong twice in a 6-1 endgame after correctly nailing the other two scum. I had confirmational bias (town) on Parama and I let it blind me.

The fact that you're doing this on Day 1, on PAGE THREE makes me extremely suspicious of you because who as town would write somebody off this early.

Unvote; Vote: Charlie

. This is a serious vote.

I saw that too.
My thinking: expect some funky mechanics. I see a post restricted player; this must be one of those things.
Your thinking: expect some funky mechanics. You see a post restricted player; this player could be Mafia just to screw with us.

We have our differences, fine.

Yeah either that or the mafia have a fakeclaim of one of the blue or pink unicorns (the spanish speakers). Which makes sense from a modding standpoint, because they are the main characters except for Charlie. I would expect them to either be that, or masons. But I'm 200% sure they're in the game.

Also, the "we have our differences, fine" is a classic "ok, let's agree to disagree" that I see from scum who want to pacify a townie when it turns out their stance was unpopular. I almost NEVER see townies make any kind of pacification statements like this.

Rhinox is probtown due to #61. I can't see scum posting that. Scum would be more likely to hope that part went unnoticed and would want to pigeonhole things and try to create false subconscious leanings within people based on fallacies like "nobody with a PR could be scum".

@ tanstalas's #53: I have had this conversation before (posts #6, 11, 13, 14, 18), and I will have it again here. If Hiraki was scum and so was I, then why wouldn't we sit there and try to stretch it out for as long as possible. Me trying to start the game as soon as possible should make you think the exact opposite of "reaper is scum".

Also, the caveat to this is, like Magua says in post #13 of the topic linked above, if scum have daytalk. He's a fan of daytalking scum, and I, too, am a huge proponent.

Spoiler: Offtopic about daytalk (please don't MK me Hayl)

I think it makes the game dynamics MUCH more interesting, and I also believe it dramatically reduces scumslips by nipping them in the bud before they happen, mostly because the skilled scum can talk to the less skilled scum and coach them through the day.

This means: Better average scum play during that game, PLUS, the newbscum learns much more for the future, PLUS, there's much less chance for a Scummies-award-caliber player being screwed by some stupid teammate's f*ckup. So yes, I daresay I am a proponent of it.

I vehemently protest.

We have our differences, fine.

What prompted the change?

Ninja'd, but, I saw that too. Read my comments on it above.

[Charlie]

What is this vote you speak of?

[ReaperCharlie]

Whoops.

Shun: Charlie

And do you have anything else to say to my post?

[Charlie]

Oh yes. There are tons of things I can pick on it, but I'd rather stay mum about it until more people post. Be patient, good things come unto those who wait.

[ReaperCharlie]

1. First, shut the f*ck up with your Jedi mind trick crap.
2. I don't care about whether you'd "rather" this or that.
3. If there are "tons of things", as you say: Get talking.

Do what I say, or I will lynch you.

Sincerely,
ReaperCharlie

[Umbrage]

RC stole my thunder.

1. Whether krypt is town or scum because of his post restriction is a WIFOM argument. Why would anyone would WANT to try and write a player off as town so quickly? It makes no sense from a pro-town perspective.

2. Rhinox's vote doesn't look serious AT ALL. He said he didn't like having to translate everything, reasoning that is on par with OMGUS and pretty common for RVS. Charlie acted like he was proposing a policy lynch, which I don't see.

3. The switch from 'enraged at a really bad vote' to 'oh well we all have our own opinions' is really fake. Especially when you remember that NO NEW INFO was posted during the time in between. Charlie said he saw rule #1, so why didn't he apply that logic earlier? It's a staged fit followed by a quick retreat. Scummy.

Shun: Charlie

[ReaperCharlie]

RC stole my thunder.

1. Whether krypt is town or scum because of his post restriction is a WIFOM argument. Why would anyone would WANT to try and write a player off as town so quickly? It makes no sense from a pro-town perspective.

2. Rhinox's vote doesn't look serious AT ALL. He said he didn't like having to translate everything, reasoning that is on par with OMGUS and pretty common for RVS. Charlie acted like he was proposing a policy lynch, which I don't see.

3. The switch from 'enraged at a really bad vote' to 'oh well we all have our own opinions' is really fake. Especially when you remember that NO NEW INFO was posted during the time in between. Charlie said he saw rule #1, so why didn't he apply that logic earlier? It's a staged fit followed by a quick retreat. Scummy.

Shun: Charlie

Get used to it.

[Nobody Special]

Charlie, why do you feel so strongly that, in a game where it's specifically stated that we should expect the unexpected, you can write off anything as "usual"?

[tanstalas]

I said that it seems RC is very confident that 'diddle diddle' was the correct confirmation code and RC posted really shortly after Hiraki, and I was eluding to perhaps the reason he posted so soon after was because RC told Hiraki in a QT topic to hurry up and post his confirmation so they could start.

OK, that really doesn't make sense because it implies that Hiraki would be watching the QT, which he must have gotten from his role PM. If he had his role PM, why wouldn't he confirm?

I don't know about you, but I didn't get a link to the game in my PM, I was looking in little Italy for the game, but I should have been looking in Coney Island >.<

So, perhaps Hiraki didn't get a link to the game either, but he still got a link to the QT, and in there RC was telling him to get his butt in here and post?

Anyhow, no response to me calling Zodiark13 out for just wandering in and throwing down a RV after he said 'shit started' without mentioning his thoughts on anything up until then?

[tanstalas]

Also, Kryp - I'd check with Haylen to see if you actually have a PR, when I read mine I thought I had one as well, but I didn't. You will see what I mean at end game as to why I thought I had one as well lol