Charlie the Unicorn Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Hiraki]

DAMNIT.

SERIOUSLY? SOMEONE SPANISH?

RAGE.

1. did you think that Umbrage put the original focus on you by saying that you were the only unconfirmed?
2. Did you consider voting for RC?
3. Do you feel that RC put a focus on you by voting for you first?
4. What do you think about umbrage pointing you out and then RC shunning you?
5. what do you think about Tans shunning RC

Also, I believe this is a post restriction as well, not sure though. Maybe I'm just

that

new, and lazy to look up Pulindar's history.
1)No.
2)No.
3)Eh. Debatable. Not very big though.
4)Depends. On the future really.
5)Absolutely hate it.

I'll get in more later.

[Doombunny9]

Okay, YOU tell ME why it's not a scummy thing to ask.

Its basically a way of saying "Was your vote a RV or not", I see no harm in that question.

Oh yes. There are tons of things I can pick on it, but I'd rather stay mum about it until more people post. Be patient, good things come unto those who wait.

How will more people posting change your answers? I agree with RC, if you have something to say, stop avoiding it.

Unshun, Shun: Charlie

Pressure vote

[Haylen]

Shun Count

:
Charlie: ReaperCharlie, Umbrage, Doombunny
Nobody Special: Pulindar
Tans: Zodiark
Umbrage: Hiraki, Kryptinen
Reapercharlie: Stefunny, Nobody Special, Charlie
Zodiark: Tans
Kryptenin: Rhinox


Not Voting:

Deadline:

Thursday 19th May 9pm GMT

Votes to lynch:

7/12

Prods:

Notes:

[Umbrage]

Doom, who do you find the most scummy?

[tanstalas]

Why a pressure vote this early? You trying to get claims already?

[ReaperCharlie]

Okay, YOU tell ME why it's not a scummy thing to ask.

Its basically a way of saying "Was your vote a RV or not", I see no harm in that question.

Oh yes. There are tons of things I can pick on it, but I'd rather stay mum about it until more people post. Be patient, good things come unto those who wait.

How will more people posting change your answers? I agree with RC, if you have something to say, stop avoiding it.

Unshun, Shun: Charlie

Pressure vote

a) What the F*** is the point of a pressure vote if you say "Pressure vote" right afterwards? It entirely defeats the purpose.
b) What's with the smiley? Trying to tell everyone (including Charlie, who you're voting) that your vote is not serious at all?
c) How's it feel having a distraction in place so you don't have to vote anyone else? Good? I hope so. Now make a real vote.

[Doombunny9]

Doom, who do you find the most scummy?

I find Charlie most scummy for his failure to answer RC's questions and his auto writing off Krypt as town for D1. So I suppose my pressure vote is partially a real vote and the "pressure" part is just a bonus.

Why a pressure vote this early? You trying to get claims already?

Pressure vote=/=claims. I am pressure voting because I am expressing that I want Charlie to explain the "tons of things" he can say about RC's post.

b) What's with the smiley? Trying to tell everyone (including Charlie, who you're voting) that your vote is not serious at all?

What is this I don't even. A smiley is just a smiley. Your nitpicking has been noted (And no; The smileys don't mean anything here either other than to prove my point.)

[Pulindar]

Author's Note

Alright everyone, here comes my friendly little post. I see that Cathryn is doing a shun count, I'm curious as to where we all stand.

I am not able to get on much, so I'm going to need to do all my posting in one big slot like this. Um, since Stefunny didn't like spoilers, I can post in areas as well though so we'll see how this goes. Alphabetical order sound good?

In my thoughts I will number according to your post by singling your name out on the bottom so I only see your posts as I go through.

If I missed anyone please let me know.

Charlie

Thoughts

#1. Pre game post, you ask everyone to join with you in a friendly. Could have been trying to predispose people into feeling you are friendly.
#3 actively joined Tans' side, in your own words.
#4 made an assumption about language restriction
#5 D1 clearing kryp. If kryp is town may be an attempt for friendly feelings, attacks Rinox
#6-7 tries to ease off
#8 I'm not sure if he was joking with RC or trying to be funny/serious. Came off as a joke, maybe to mend poor feelings by siding against him earlier? Still voting RC
#9 actively stays out of the conversation, that is true lurking. IMHO

Questions

1. Why did you join Tans side, and why did you specifically call it a side?
2. Do you see your actions as lurking.

Doombunny9

Thoughts

#1&2 both seem to be directing your post at people who aren't saying things. It seems like you are trying to use your vote as a tool to force players to talk.
#3 just read this after finishing the rest of my post, I disagree with you on the point of nitpicking, I have found it to be a valid way to find scum

Questions

1. Do you have anything you would like to add?
2. Is there anything specific you would like other players to talk about (where your vote is not focusing on someone)?
3. What did you think about Zodiark not expanding on the things that started while he was gone?

Hiraki

Thoughts

#2 you answered my questions to my satisfaction. Thank you

Questions

I have no questions right now.

Kryptinen

Thoughts

#1-2 interesting predicament. Do you mind if I ask what your first language is?

Questions

1. Please answer Umbrage's question in his post #6
2. Do you feel like this language barrier will help or hinder you?

Nobody Special

Thoughts

#2 I actually agreed that alliances don't belong here ( except with masons and such)
#3-4 fine answers to 1&2. Skipped question 3 because he felt it was scummy. In part doom bunny was right, I did wonder if your vote on RC was random. In part I also was curious about what other reasons you would vote for people. For instance, if I wasn't with my 17 yr old sister and her boyfriend I would have shunned Rinox for making me think he had pictures in his opening post and sitting there like an idiot waiting for them to load for like 3 minutes. Lastly, information is rarely scummy. (role fishing excluded

Questions

1. Has your vote on RC given you the results you wanted?
2. Since your vote is still there, is there anything you want to know from him?
3. I repeat my previous question, who would you have voted for and why?

ReaperCharlie

Thoughts

#8 still don't like that unicorn alliance post. Feels the same as Charlie's be friendly posts.
#9-10 lots of stuff. Firstly, good job pointing out your previous game. Is your shun actually serious (I believe so, but want to make sure)
Do we know the blue and pink unicorns alignment? They seem to be ... Eh.... Well... With Charlie all the time, but they also seem to be not the safest friends to have...
I disagree with your probtown reason for Rinox, but find it a null read myself.
Null read on starting the game quickly as well, it's never mattered to me no matter my alignment.
I don't like day talk for scum or masons.

Important

you never answered my questions ... Not cool.
Also, you shun is on Charlie and his on you... Interesting?
#11 valid points against Charlie
#13 the points you made didn't bother me.

Questions

[quote=Pulindar]1. Your point number 6 is a common scum tactic, why are you using it?
2. Your point number 5 seems to be an attempt to get the focus of you through comedy. Why do you want the focus away from you?
3. Even though you didn't even think about the confirmation, did you consider awaiting Haylen's express permission to begin?
4. Was your eagerness just to play, or to push the focus onto a specific person?
5. Have you played any previous games with Hiraki?
6. Why did you make the alliance suggestion? Seems a bit scummy to me...
[/quote]
7. Why did you skip these?
8. Does your voting on Charlie have anything to do with him voting you?
9. Do we know the blue and pink unicorn's alignment?
10. If not, what do you think they are?

Rinox

Thoughts

#3-4 these don't bother me nor help me. As I was adding through I considered doing the same thing for the same reason. The discussion has turned a bit more serious though so I find that for me RVS is ending.

Questions

1. What do you think of Charlie's claim that your action seems scummy?
2. What do you think about RC saying you post 4 is probtown?

Stefunny

Thoughts

#3 thank you for answering my questions, I appreciate it.
#4 seems likely, Cathryn wouldn't have any problem putting in posting mechanics, nor would she have problems to limit whether players are allowed to talk about said mechanics...

Questions

I have no current questions for you

Tanstalas

Thoughts

#3-4 with question 1 that's how I understood your vote on RC, thank you for correcting me. As for your other answers, thank you, I think I understand where you're coming from.
#5 extremely valid points, and I completely agree.
#6 firstly, I did not get a link here either through my role pm. Secondly, I caught it and will address zodiac shortly
#7 good of you to help, but I expect she would have corrected him, or will correct him if he is wrong
#8 I did not see that, and while it is a valid scum tell in my mind, I still do not see him as role fishing.

Questions

1. you feel decent about your shun on zodiac, did you not feel decent about your earlier shun on RC?
2. other than zodiac who are you leaning towards as scum?

Umbrage

Thoughts

#4 thank you for answering my questions
#5 he addressed your point in his post #6 you have not readdressed it.
#6 I totally missed that, very valid point
#7-8 ok, I see where it's going
#9 hmm refocusing?
Overall you seem to try to focus on one player at a time. I think you will do better later game.

Questions

1. Have you accepted Tans theory as something he did not purposely contrive to force a serious vote? (that's how I understood your original shun on him)
2. Why are you refocusing on Doom

Zodiark13

Thoughts

#1 this is your only post other than you confirmation. It was entirely useless. You noticed that others were talking and yet still said nothing. You didn't even assure the group that you would talk later.

Questions

1. What are your thoughts of Tans' questions?
2. Will you be more active as the game develops? (if he answers no Haylen can we replace with nacchomama)
3. What are your thoughts on each of the other players?
4. What are your thoughts on other players possible roles?
5. What are your thoughts on current flavor text we have seen?

Eulogy

Accept: nobody special

Shun: Zodiac

post more information.

[ReaperCharlie]

Questions

1. Your point number 6 is a common scum tactic, why are you using it?
2. Your point number 5 seems to be an attempt to get the focus of you through comedy. Why do you want the focus away from you?
3. Even though you didn't even think about the confirmation, did you consider awaiting Haylen's express permission to begin?
4. Was your eagerness just to play, or to push the focus onto a specific person?
5. Have you played any previous games with Hiraki?
6. Why did you make the alliance suggestion? Seems a bit scummy to me...

7. Why did you skip these?
8. Does your voting on Charlie have anything to do with him voting you?
9. Do we know the blue and pink unicorn's alignment?
10. If not, what do you think they are?

1. Why not? is a better question. I'm not worried about looking scummy.
2. It's called "comic relief."
3. Yea, but what good would it do, and who cares.
4. To play. That should be obv.
5. Not to my knowledge, but I play games with a lot of people. He's a Mass Effect dude like me, so I do know him from on site. Why do you ask?
6. No. Alliances are nothing if not EXTREMELY pro-town.
7. Cause I was busy/didn't see them/was too lazy/other miscellaneous reasons (i.e. I'm lying scum and I hate answering questions, I'm worried about whether people will nitpick my answers or not, etc)
8. Yes, but not directly in the way you're probably thinking.
9. Obv no. Why even ask this?
10. I already said I think they're likely masons or some other kind of linked role, like neighbors or something. Did you not see that?

Now, answer my questions in return, and then vote whoever I'm voting, and we'll be straight.

---

Anybody else ask me questions I didn't answer? Point me to 'em, please.
I'll be in and out of here, but don't have time tonight to read it all yet.

[Nobody Special]

Nobody Special

Questions

1. Has your vote on RC given you the results you wanted?
2. Since your vote is still there, is there anything you want to know from him?
3. I repeat my previous question, who would you have voted for and why?

1) No, he's still alive.

2) I want to know why he's still alive.

3) Well, since I can't accurately place myself back in that situation, I'm not sure I can quite answer this with any precision. If I were to change my vote now, though, it would be on Charlie, due to his insistence that the Spanish PR is Town.

I do not understand, in the least, what relationship your vote had with the people who were with you. Or were you just shining light on the randomness?

Eulogy

Accept: nobody special

What's with the Eulogy? Why are you "accepting" me? Is there any significance in the fact that you did not capitalize my username (yet you did in the Area tag)? What's the nature of your post restriction? (If you tell me you don't have one, I

will

Shun you.)

While we're on that subject, does anyone else have a non-obvious post restriction that we haven't noticed yet?

ReaperCharlie: This is really more of a playstyle question, but do you think that your arrogance is helpful to the Town?

[Umbrage]

@ Pul:

1. No, but it's a rather weak tell, and harping on that won't help anyone.
2. Honestly, I don't know. As you said, I tend to focus on only a few people, questioning Doom seemed like a good counter to that. It was a gut instinct that made me pick him, probably turn out to be nothing.

[Pulindar]

Authors note

This is a response post before bed.

Nobody Special

Thank you for answering my questions.
Just shining light, I tend to ramble sometimes
Hmm I meant the accepting thing as unshunning. I figured accepting someone is the opposite of shunning them. My way to unvote.
There was nothing particular about capitalization. I merely forgot to change it.
I'm not sure I'm supposed to talk about it... Let me ask Haylen and get back to you. Nor am I implying that I have one as I'm not sure I'm allowed to do that lol
As a side note I am enjoying posting like this. And obv numbers have not been necessary per say, but they have helped I think.

ReaperCharlie

Why not? Eh... Cause having a townie look scummy on purpose doesn't help town. Having a scum look scummy on purpose doesn't help scum. Either way seems a bit against your win condition. I suppose if you were town and using it as some type of bait, but that seems extremely risky.
I was wondering if you played with him out of curiosity. Just didn't know if you randomly shunned someone you knew, or someone you didn't know
I don't get how alliances are extremely proton. They always seem to form, but I've seen games lost be ause of alliances.
nmh I guess just curious as to your thoughts about the. blue and pink unicorns since you brought them up.
And I'm sorry but I somehow must have missed your thoughts about what they would be. Thanks for letting me know.

Umbrage

Thank you for answering my questions, I appreciate it. Also, we'll see where it goes, following your gut can lead to interesting places

[Nobody Special]

Eulogy?

[Pulindar]

Prologue

EBWOP

Nobody Special

oh yeah, eulogy, um basically it was my way of signaling an end section that I was not relating to any particular player, like the author's note. It was the end, or death of that post. Epilogue would have been a better choice and prologue in front.... Maybe I'll begin doing that instead.

ReaperCharlie

Thank you btw for answering my questions,
And I cannot vote with you at this moment because I do not want that many votes this early in the day on anyone.

Epilogue

Btw, are the areas better than spoilers?
Are the numbers good or bad?

[ReaperCharlie]

ReaperCharlie: This is really more of a playstyle question, but do you think that your arrogance is helpful to the Town?

I think it can be. A certain level of stubborn obstinacy coupled with the right amount of charisma and humor can do wonders in terms of getting people to sheep you. And when you know beyond a doubt that you're right and nobody will listen to you, it's probably the most frustrating thing ever. And it also helps define me as a person and as a character when playing the game, so it helps people know where they stand with me.

Heh. Sorry if that's waxing a little too eloquent; I just got done writing something significantly more philosophical, and I'm not feeling very prone to succinctness at the moment. Anyway, why do you want me dead so badly again? Because I'm me? Or is it because of something I've done?

[Doombunny9]

@Pel-
1. Off of the top of my head I can't think of anything that someone else hasn't already said. If I think of something I will post it.
2. I would like to hear more talk about anything really from Zodiark and from Rinox about his vote on Krypt.
3. Its odd but unfortunately I have seen it from lazy town/town that feels compelled to RV no matter the circumstances. I'm probably not going to make much out of it until we hear more from him.

#3 just read this after finishing the rest of my post, I disagree with you on the point of nitpicking, I have found it to be a valid way to find scum

I agree with you on this but it can also be used as a tool for scum to make their cases look larger than they really are by focusing on the smallest things and to push a town ML by making town look it insignificant things rather than the big picture.

Btw, are the areas better than spoilers?
Are the numbers good or bad?

I couldn't care less about the areas/spoilers. Both are fine to me. The numbering is good though to keep things organized.

1) No, he's still alive.

2) I want to know why he's still alive.

These answers seem "off" to me.

@NS- If a RC quicklynch were to happen right now, would you be fine with it? How convinced are you that RC is scum?

If you tell me you don't have one, I will Shun you.

Why exactly?

As for me I have no post restrictions.

[Nobody Special]

@RC -- It's your playstyle. I feel it's anti-town at times. And your arrogance could possibly lead to your downfall (though I've not read all of your games, so).

@Doom -- I would be fine with an RC quicklynch right now, or anytime. He's anti-town. I'm not convinced he's scum, but he is certainly anti-town; moreso at this moment than anyone else IMO.

I would Shun Pulin if he claimed to have no post restriction because his needless adding of complexity to an already complex game is also anti-town. (To be clear: if he in fact has a post restriction, then it's all good.)

[Zodiark13]

Zodiark13

Thoughts

#1 this is your only post other than you confirmation. It was entirely useless. You noticed that others were talking and yet still said nothing. You didn't even assure the group that you would talk later.

Questions

1. What are your thoughts of Tans' questions?
2. Will you be more active as the game develops? (if he answers no Haylen can we replace with nacchomama)
3. What are your thoughts on each of the other players?
4. What are your thoughts on other players possible roles?
5. What are your thoughts on current flavor text we have seen?

Thoughts: I'll be honest, I was about to read up and then things happened IRL and had to go out, didn't get back for several hours, and didn't have a chance to post for many hours more, and by that time, my mum was on the computer, being the only computer in the house. I was wanting to get a post out, thats all.

Questions
1: You mean this one?

Why a pressure vote this early? You trying to get claims already?

Pressure votes are fine, as they get people to post more content.
2. You eager to see nacho in this? Sorry to dissapoint you, but this is unusually inactive for me, issues with me being in Australia aside.
3. Apart from doombunny2, I only know a few by name, not by playstyle.
4. TBH I would rather not think about it right now. Role fishing aside, the roles could be anywhere between 'messed up' and 'HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE?!?!?'. I also find it rather hard to think of 12 roles for a game based of a series of silly videos based off of three characters. I can think of about 7 characters, more if you count each of the candy letters as seperate.
5. What flavor text? All theres been is the picture in the OP, and that just tells me Haylen loves 'shun the non-believer'.

I'll hopefully post more in bit.

[Zodiark13]

On closer examination, I think I will keep my vote on tans. His 33 seems to be very reaching for a reason to have an early 'serious' bandwagon, but then happily jumps onto me for a rather flimsy reason in 49. 73 screams of scum not happy that his two bandwagons are going nowhere.

[kryptinen]

Kryptinen

Thoughts

#1-2 interesting predicament. Do you mind if I ask what your first language is?

Questions

1. Please answer Umbrage's question in his post #6
2. Do you feel like this language barrier will help or hinder you?

@Pulindar: Mi lengua materna es el finlandés.
1) Ya he respondido a esa pregunta: Mi voto no era grave, porque no tengo datos suficientes para establecer un verdadero voto.
2) Esta barrera del idioma es molesto y va a tomar tiempo adicional a la frase de mis mensajes de una manera que no recibe todos los ilegibles por la traducción.

@ReaperCharlie: ¿De qué sirve hacer alianzas hacer para la ciudad? Definitivamente no tienen carisma para hablar de no veo razón para que la arrogancia. D:
@Nobody Special: ¿prefieres linchar a) Alguien que no da mucho, pero que ha mecánicamente no hay razón para que la mafia, o b) un jugador útil cuya alineación no tienes ni idea de?
@Tans: En primer lugar decir que su voto el ReaperCharlie es grave, pero más tarde se dice que son casi feliz por voto Zodiark. ¿Estaba usted no está satisfecho con su votación en primer lugar?

Este artículo ha sido distorsionada por la traducción.

[tanstalas]

I made my vote on RC as a serious vote because up until that point he was my best guess. I loathe RVS and would rather get out if it ASAP, I much prefer RQS. Anyhow, Zod is my best guess for now, he talks about how pressure votes are good because it makes people provide more content though reading his ISO he provides little to no content of his own. The only post he has made that has any 'meat' to it is where he was answering questions.

He then says my vote on him is for a flimsy reason. Keyword here is it is a reason. He says that he made that post 'just to post', which also irks me.

If I had to guess at another person to be scum with him at this moment I'd guess maybe Doom, I don't like how Zod says that Doom's 'pressure vote' is fine as long as it provides more content.. see previous notes on my thoughts of the irony of this statement by him.

[Zodiark13]

I made my vote on RC as a serious vote because up until that point he was my best guess. I loathe RVS and would rather get out if it ASAP, I much prefer RQS. Anyhow, Zod is my best guess for now, he talks about how pressure votes are good because it makes people provide more content though reading his ISO he provides little to no content of his own. The only post he has made that has any 'meat' to it is where he was answering questions.

He then says my vote on him is for a flimsy reason. Keyword here is it is a reason. He says that he made that post 'just to post', which also irks me.

If I had to guess at another person to be scum with him at this moment I'd guess maybe Doom, I don't like how Zod says that Doom's 'pressure vote' is fine as long as it provides more content.. see previous notes on my thoughts of the irony of this statement by him.

And since when was having a life a scum tell? Having three posts by page 4 is hardly inactivity, and this is far too early in the game to be saying 'LOL HES AN IRONIC BULLSHITTER CAUSE HE SAYS ABOUT POSTING CONTENT WITHOUT POSTING ANY HIMSELF'.

Your vote on RC can't have been too serious if you vote on the next flimsy reason to pass your eye.

[Umbrage]

Don't like tanstalas' 'I don't like RVS so I tried to get out of it'. First off, in a theme as soaked with memes as Charlie the Unicorn, there are bound to be some silly jokes and whatnot. Why try to fight it? If you really hate it, you could say so, or simply not show up until the game's moved on. Attacking the first person to randomly vote doesn't seem like the best course of action.

@ Nobody Special: Why do you feel RC is anti-town?

[tanstalas]

I made my vote on RC as a serious vote because up until that point he was my best guess. I loathe RVS and would rather get out if it ASAP, I much prefer RQS. Anyhow, Zod is my best guess for now, he talks about how pressure votes are good because it makes people provide more content though reading his ISO he provides little to no content of his own. The only post he has made that has any 'meat' to it is where he was answering questions.

He then says my vote on him is for a flimsy reason. Keyword here is it is a reason. He says that he made that post 'just to post', which also irks me.

If I had to guess at another person to be scum with him at this moment I'd guess maybe Doom, I don't like how Zod says that Doom's 'pressure vote' is fine as long as it provides more content.. see previous notes on my thoughts of the irony of this statement by him.

And since when was having a life a scum tell? Having three posts by page 4 is hardly inactivity, and this is far too early in the game to be saying 'LOL HES AN IRONIC BULLSHITTER CAUSE HE SAYS ABOUT POSTING CONTENT WITHOUT POSTING ANY HIMSELF'.

Your vote on RC can't have been too serious if you vote on the next flimsy reason to pass your eye.

u mad bro?

[Zodiark13]

I made my vote on RC as a serious vote because up until that point he was my best guess. I loathe RVS and would rather get out if it ASAP, I much prefer RQS. Anyhow, Zod is my best guess for now, he talks about how pressure votes are good because it makes people provide more content though reading his ISO he provides little to no content of his own. The only post he has made that has any 'meat' to it is where he was answering questions.

He then says my vote on him is for a flimsy reason. Keyword here is it is a reason. He says that he made that post 'just to post', which also irks me.

If I had to guess at another person to be scum with him at this moment I'd guess maybe Doom, I don't like how Zod says that Doom's 'pressure vote' is fine as long as it provides more content.. see previous notes on my thoughts of the irony of this statement by him.

And since when was having a life a scum tell? Having three posts by page 4 is hardly inactivity, and this is far too early in the game to be saying 'LOL HES AN IRONIC BULLSHITTER CAUSE HE SAYS ABOUT POSTING CONTENT WITHOUT POSTING ANY HIMSELF'.

Your vote on RC can't have been too serious if you vote on the next flimsy reason to pass your eye.

u mad bro?

u tryin to dodge my points bro? Scum here.