Charlie the Unicorn Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Umbrage]

FUCK.

Shun: ReaperCharlie

NO MORE FUCKING TEXT WALLS. NO MORE 'I HATE PLAYER X CUZ HE DOESN'T WANT AN ALLIANCE'. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND SCUMHUNT.

[tanstalas]

@RC - The post before I posted about Doom - his thoughts on people corresponded for the most part on my thoughts on people. Since I know I'm town, I think he probably is as well.

Seriously though, anyone else notice the reasoning Umbrage has for me being scum is what he is doing himself? Albeit to a MUCH GREATER extent? Hello hypocrisy!

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[Umbrage]

Seriously though, anyone else notice the reasoning Umbrage has for me being scum is what he is doing himself? Albeit to a MUCH GREATER extent? Hello hypocrisy!

ELABORATE.

[tanstalas]

I already have. My ISO-13.

Start reading posts, as was mentioned before it is at the VERY LEAST anti-town

[Umbrage]

Hm... ISO #13:

"WATS OMGUS?"

"I DONT NO WAT 2 REED!"

"IM NOT IMMATURE!!!!111"

"LOLWUT?!" (actual quote)

"U DIDNT ANS ?S!!"

I assume you're talking about me not answering questions, but that doesn't make sense, because my case on you is not about questions. It's about fake scumhunting. But for the sake of discussion, what questions did I not answer?

[tanstalas]

I assume you're talking about me not answering questions, but that doesn't make sense,

because my case on you is not about questions

.

In short, tanstalas is hopping from target to target with very little reasoning. Each case is extremely contrived. When Zodiark responds to his attack,

he dodges the questions

.

Both Zod and I have noted that you aren't responding to him. You say he's your #1 suspect, but you seem content with going UMAD instead of, I don't know, stating actual reasoning. You respond to this with LOL NO. Either you're scum or you're way too immature to be playing this game.

Your ISO-16 shows the questions posed to you that you ignore/dodge, also shows your immaturity by just going blahblahblah, etc.

You say I am scummy for not answering questions, and again, there were no questions poised to me, you have been asked questions by numerous people and ignored them.

You also said I was immature because I asked Zod 'u mad bro?' when you posted:

BLAHBLAHBLAHBLAHBLAH

It is anti-town to spam your ideas in huge posts several times per page. If a situation arrives where a magical unicorn alliance is useful, we'll form one, 'k?

When you also said:

#10:

Turns to childish retorts

when Zodiark, his number one suspect, starts questioning him. This is not the way to push a wagon, particularly when you recall the sole reason tans finds Zod scummy at this point is because Zod wasn't commenting on stuff.

Way to set an example.

Way to set an example.

set an example.

an example.

example.

example

.

You reek of hypocrisy.

[Nobody Special]

FUCK.

Shun: ReaperCharlie

NO MORE FUCKING TEXT WALLS. NO MORE 'I HATE PLAYER X CUZ HE DOESN'T WANT AN ALLIANCE'. SHUT THE FUCK UP AND SCUMHUNT.

I've found my better target.

unshun

Shun: Umbrage

[Umbrage]

@ TANSHITLAS: YOU NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS = YOU NOT PRESSURING ZOD = YOU NOT SCUMHUNTING. SEE IT NOW?

I ALSO NOTICE YOU CAN'T SHOW ME ANY QUESTIONS I DID NOT ANSWER. LIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIAR.

CALL ME CHILDISH, BUT AT LEAST I'M NOT A LIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIAR.

[ReaperCharlie]

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

Umbrage is a jester.

Don't lynch him.

[ReaperCharlie]

LOLjester.

/facepalm, Hayl. /facepalm.

[tanstalas]

@ TANSHITLAS: YOU NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS = YOU NOT PRESSURING ZOD = YOU NOT SCUMHUNTING. SEE IT NOW?

I ALSO NOTICE YOU CAN'T SHOW ME ANY QUESTIONS I DID NOT ANSWER. LIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIAR.

CALL ME CHILDISH, BUT AT LEAST I'M NOT A LIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIAR.

Reaper's ISO-21



And if he is a Jester, I will never play a Haylen game again. Jester's are as bad as UNKNOWN cults *slaps RC around like a red headed stepchild*

[tanstalas]

1.

I will not accept insulting behaviour in my games, anybody doing so will receive

a nice, well worded warning from me in thread.

Further breaking of the rule will receive a harsher punishment.

TAN

SHIT

LAS

But, I'm the immature one, right?

[Nobody Special]

Wait.

Wait.

Wait.

Umbrage is a jester.

Don't lynch him.

what is this i dont even

[Pulindar]

Prologue

When you lynch a jester they win, the only way to kill a jester is NK

I can believe he is a jester,

Epilogue

Working on my real post now guys, will be up in about half an hour hopefully

[tanstalas]

I don't think he is a jester FTR.

If he is he is bad as a jester, or so ingenious I don't even think that him being a jester is a possibility. However, I do not think he is that good.

[Umbrage]

JESTER-HUNTING IS NOT SCUM-HUNTING NICE TRY RC

[ReaperCharlie]

@ TANSHITLAS: YOU NOT ANSWERING QUESTIONS = YOU NOT PRESSURING ZOD = YOU NOT SCUMHUNTING. SEE IT NOW?

I ALSO NOTICE YOU CAN'T SHOW ME ANY QUESTIONS I DID NOT ANSWER. LIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIAR.

CALL ME CHILDISH, BUT AT LEAST I'M NOT A LIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIARLIAR.

JESTER-HUNTING IS NOT SCUM-HUNTING NICE TRY RC

Yeah. He is a jester.

Under no circumstances will I support an Umbrage lynch today, and I recommend that the scum kill him off tonight and do us all a favor.

Post #182 gave it away. Nobody gets that carried away. Also, he is not acting like I've ever seen him act before.

Heh.

[tanstalas]

Well, let Haylen modkill him then.

He has already insulted me twice this game.

[ReaperCharlie]

@Hayl: Jester, or no jester?

I'ma 'bout ta

Shun: Game

and replace out if you don't confirm or deny. I'm serious.

[Pulindar]

Prologue

Alright everyone, 4 pages is too much to isolate everyone's posts and do summaries on each of you. I know that it would have been half that if I had posted yesterday, I appologize. I could not make a decent post

Next, I would like to thank everyone who answered my questions they are helping me even if others aren't gleaning much out of them.

Please note also that I found it easiest to do the bottom first because I'm on a mobile device.

Current Votes

Doom's vote on Charlie:

I can semi agree with this, but I am not sure. I feel that he was active lurking in his iso 9. But other than that I'm sorta null on him. Saving it for later.

Zodiark on Tans:

happened a long time ago for tans first in game post, which we went over. Honestly, I feel that tans clearly explained that first post and this vote is baseless now.

Hiraki's on Rinox

seems partially OMGUS. And partially because he doesn't have a further opinion on anyone and wants a safe vote for now. Hmmm I don't really see the reason for this vote. I realize you state it in iso 6 and later talk about the alliance, but seems weak...

Pulindar on Zodiark

ill make a case soon, or remove my vote

Rinox & Krypton on Hiraki

Rinox is voting him primarily for active lurking, decent reason. Kryptin Is voting him to put the focus there, and because of his stress of that gambit thing with RC, which I never considered.

Two big groups, Umbrage and RC

Vote on Umbrage

seem to mainly be based on his poor posting style. There are some real arguments, but it seems that they are voting him mainly because his posting style is becoming anti town. Some of it is in part due to his desire to limit discussion I am sure, but most is purely his unfriendly style

Vote on RC

funny enough, I think the votes on him are mainly for the same reason. Even Charlie's gut vote seems to be at least partially based on his posting style.

Area epilogue

Remember that NS voted both RC and Umbrage. He also said he would threaten me except that my posts are due to restriction. Mmm I think that until we start truly scum hunting and making viable cases our focus will lead toward these policy votes. I don't like this form of hunting.

Posts

First, i would like to apologize to Charlie for getting on him earlier about being friendly. I interpreted that as trying to chum up to other players, not the mere curtesy a person should socially show any stranger they meet. And I definitely didn't think that it implied trying for an environment that propagated a fun and entertaining game.
I understand that everyone has different posting styles, but can we please take out as much swearing as possible, and leave caps locks for a poor way to emphasize rather than just posting that way.
1. There are children on this site.
2. While swearing does increase the human brains capability for dealing with pain and disturbing situations, and while it is used to show emphasis sometimes in normal speech (mainly when things or painful or disturbing on an unusual area rather than the pure physical) they should not be used arbitrarily.
3. Capital letters are also used for emphasis in sentences, or to denote propriety. But when texting they can be considered a form of shouting. Frankly, I feel it is rude to constantly shout during a game. I tend to dismiss myself when that happens in RL and never play with those people again.

Lastly, I am not overly offended by either the swearing or the caps (more the caps than swearing) but they are annoying me and I felt it would be best if I addressed it now.

Mmm, almost forgot, simplifying and diminishing the worth of another's post is also rude. The things that you guys a referring to as childish seem unnecessary to the game, and in fact are detracting from it.

I firmly believe that if our posts were cleaned up just a bit, then this game would run more smoothly and we could play an enjoyable game for all. The side you have, whether you win or lose, they shouldn't determine the value of the game or whether you enjoy it. I've made friends with scum when I was town, and vice versa. Let's play our characters as best we can while still remembering that players are real people.

Thank You All.

Alliance

Thoughts

1. These seem to always form, though usually they are even more informal than the suggested idea
2. They generally tend to blind a few players, but do either force scum to capitulate to town demands or to give themselves away
3. They seem to only really work when there is only one scum group or at least no third party. I don't believe this is the case.
4. Because I know Cathryn, I feel that there are multiple groups and odd win conditions. Simple scum versus town doesn't make sense to me. Thus, I am against the alliance.
5. I reserve the right to change my mind later after night occurs.
6. I don't believe my opinion will matter to those who want to form a formal alliance

Questions, Pro

1. You said the numbers would decrease, how?
2. I assume that the alliance will be discussing their choices for the day in general chat?
3. You said that the alliance should be less than half, what is the reason for that?
4. The way I understand it, the leader merely is the most vocal in which direction s/he thinks the group should go, the position seems informal?

Questions, Anti

1. Would you feel more comfortable if someone other than RC was 'leading' the alliance?
2. What do you think of the original position that the alliance should have less than half the players in it?
3. Do you think that by talking about this we may discover who is scum, just like discussing anything else in game?
4. The alliance is a tool to get scum to reveal themselves. Could this work if there was only one scum group?

Epilogue

I meant to add something else as well, but forgot what, plus I want this post to be done

We have time, so let's not rush a lynch, I enjoy slower games.

As far as roles go, I believe there could be a jester, or anything really, but I'm not going to focus on that just yet, and if a jester wins day one... Bravo to him.

[Umbrage]

Also, he is not acting like I've ever seen him act before.

Dude, I'm unreadable. I never stick with a single style. Anyway, what do you think of tans?

Some of it is in part due to his desire to limit discussion I am sure, but most is purely his unfriendly style

That's a laugh. I've done more to spark REAL discussion than anyone.

I assume you're talking about RC's shit. Read over Execution Mafia. That game had a big fucking alliance, and GUESS WHAT?

Town lost the game because they were too afraid to do anything that went against the BIGWIGS in the group.

It's called groupthink. Google it. It fucking KILLS these games. Scum hides in the alliance and everybody's too chicken shit to try and root them out. I pointed it out then, and I'm pointing it out now. I've already lost a game because of idiot town pulling this shit.

So, while the rest of you were busy playing alliance bullshit, I've been out finding scum. And I found one. His name is tanstalas. You can either kill him and win or undergo profound humiliation when I gloat profusely, JUST like in Execution.

Your move.

[tanstalas]

Aaaand again you ignore/dodge Umbrage. Gratz on not having more votes on you by now. There is a REASON you have more votes than anyone else, and that is because you have been the most scummy.

If you are town, I would be at a loss to know who is scum. You are not a good information lynch. Though, if you are scum, Zod is your buddy most likely

[Pulindar]

Prologue

Hmm I know, wanted only one post but already failed that today

umbrage

Iso 19-25 were stifling discussion. So were others, like post 16 & 13
As of iso 21 your current vote is on RC not Tans
Also, could you please answer my questions for anti alliance people. I don't believe in the alliance either, the biggest insult I give to people is to call them sheep, but it is part of the game discussion and I feel it should be closed properly rather than just shoving it under the rug.

Case on Tans

Prologue

Let's begin this with Umbrage's case. Isoing Umbrage

Posts 10 and earlier:

Focused on his case against RC, then decided to drop it as it was a minor case.

Post 11 & 12:

Didn't like that Tans didn't like RVS. Personally, that's a null tell for me as it is merely a game style preference, and I have seen other players feel that way from both town and scum.
First thoughts were against him for joining because of RC and immediately attacking RC, I see no problems with that honestly., another null tell
Then doesnt like his case against Zodiark for active lurking, I liked that case, so I got a small pro town vibe on tans there.
I did disagree with his impression of Doom's post, and mentioned that previously. According to that thought though, seeing a commonality with two players that I both thought separately could be scum would raise my suspicions on both, like it did for Tans in his iso 9.
I already said I didn't like the rude 'childish' retorts, but Zodiark was doing them as well... In fact many players were ....

Post 14 & 15:

firstly, he went after Zod first, so there was no OMGUS vote then. Secondly, I didn't see the question either and he asked several times for both Zod and you to spell it out for him because he was missing it, at no point did you. You requoted it, but that didn't help.

Post 18:

He shunned you after you 1falsely accused him of OMGUS (you never did define it for him) 2 started posting 'childishly' even though you attacked him for it 3. You also ignored other players of posting in that style. 4. You accused him of not answering questions that he asked you to reask so he could understand what you wanted. 5. He felt that you avoided NS's questions (I didn't feel that you avoided NS's questions though so...)
In that post you say that he voted you for caps lock rage. A term he never used, but I digress. He may have voted you in part for your posting style at that point. Shortly before he voted you your posts had less discussion elements, generally, and more yelling, as I perceived it. Frankly, I understood that your switch in style was indeed part of the reason that he voted you.

Epilogue

If my analysis on your case is wrong feel free to correct me. My rebuttals are all based on how I understood your posts. I will go on to say that I don't feel your case is scummy, merely wrong. Lastly, I disagree with tans idea that Zozd would be your buddy, for now I see no real connection.

Alliance

yes group think does kill. But alliances can be run properly.

Again, I doubt they can be done in this game due to the style, but in a game where the roles are known I would be open to the idea.

Epilogue

I believe that I have done quite a bit to spread discussion. Especially by ensuring that I asked everyone questions to attempt to increase the group's activity as a whole. Some of those questions, like the ones towards Zod and Tans have sparked interesting discussions. Others led nowhere, but they are keeping us in a general stream so that we can more accurately analyze things as the game continues.

Which reminds me, I didn't like RC's comment that I've added no content. I put my thoughts on every post and questions for every player on the fourth page. While I have not been able to be excessively active due to a 60 hour work week and three kids at home, not mine but I do watch them and take them places, I have limited myself to only coming on after all my days activities are done. More than one post takes away from my sleep. Even with my busy schedule, and being tired, I am still contributing though.

[Pulindar]

Prologue

Ebwop

Also, can everyone please answer my alliance questions. I'm curious to see if we can wrap up discussion on it in a friendly manner. You know your own alignment so pick your set, if you feel the need to skip them or don't care either way I would understand, but only by talking this through can we resolve it.

[Stefunny]

@Haylen: On your latest vote count I believe you have me still listed as voting RC when I actually had changed my vote Here To Charlie.

Sorry for the confusion.