Mini 1137: Long Overdue Mafia [Game Over!]

[Cecily]

I'm vanilla town. I still don't believe faraday's claim. I'd like to hear a claim from fitz.

[Faraday]

Let's get the confirmed town to claim next! Woop de woop.

[Faraday]

Cecily: Why is fitz your second scumread?

[mikemike778]

I MEAN I EVEN SAID I WOULD USE IT EARLIER. YOUR ARGUMENT IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.

You certainly did. You also said in that thread you kindly linked to that you would usually save it.

Why aren't you voting me if you don't believe me? Are you afraid to wagon me with your buddy is that it? Wheeeeeee.

Would be a shame to lynch you now as we might miss out on the exciting mass-claim.

[Faraday]

I MEAN I EVEN SAID I WOULD USE IT EARLIER. YOUR ARGUMENT IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD.

You certainly did. You also said in that thread you kindly linked to that you would usually save it.

Night 2 is earlier than night 3. English, do you read it very well? Also a tracker's weaker than a gunsmith as it doesn't clear anyone, I've no idea why this is even relevant, I was just pointing out pt barnum's position isn't as illogical as you're trying to make it out to be. What's your point?

Why aren't you voting me if you don't believe me? Are you afraid to wagon me with your buddy is that it? Wheeeeeee.

Would be a shame to lynch you now as we might miss out on the exciting mass-claim.[/quote]
Lol put your fucking money where your mouth is and out yourself. Do it. Do it. You think I'm scum, no doubts (well you waffled your way out of them via :scummyposting:) why wait?

[havingfitz]

Vanilla Town.

mikemike can go next since he seems to be around atm

[Setael]

I've narrowed down the lynch pool SIGNIFICANTLY with my play and why does this help me?

If both Cecily and Mike are town, and you're scum and people believe your claim then yeah, it helps you a lot wouldn't you say? You knew you were up for a lynch if chk flipped town, so your motivation to fake claim is to avoid that happening. If enough townies believe your claim, it would likely save you. Especially where Cecily is one of your targets, she should be pretty easy to get lynched after yesterday's wagon.

Today's posts have drawn my attention to Bub, since both Faraday and Cecily cleared him with really weak reasoning. An ISO of Bub is pretty damning, actually. He's posted relatively little and helped lynch Voided without getting his hands dirty. All he said was he agreed with the case and preferred it to the other wagons. He maintained that Neil was his strongest scum read when he voted Voided and again after my Pine case. That post is suspicious (ISO 20) since he doesn't really comment on the Pine case, just says "I agree that Pine is scummy as well" and FOSes him. He then asks Neil what Neil thinks of the Pine case, even though Bub didn't comment on it.

He doesn't comment on Pine again until after the tracker claim and then these 2 posts:

Hmmm, Pine's post seems wordy and desperate. He knows he's in a corner and is trying to find a way out of it with a cleverly disguised OMGUS.

Pine, who did you track last night?

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Mikemike seems like a terrible tracker choice. I've never played as a tracker before, but I assume that you would want to target somebody who you thought was scum to try and get them targetting the night kill. Right?

Pine: Why mikemike and not a scum suspect?

Since he managed to avoid saying much about Pine before these posts, it seems likely he felt he had no choice but to bus. Even then, he still doesn't push Pine at all or add to his case or ever vote him. These posts were probably just to distance.

His first post after pine's flip is highly suspicious now that chk flipped town. He votes chk using the reason I had provided the day before, which was weak in the first place. If he were town I think he could've come up with his own reason, and a better one.

So then there's this post:

Vote: Cecily

She waffled on the Pine wagon yesterday A LOT, which suggests that she was unsure of which position to take on her scumbuddy's wagon. We go from Pine is an inevitable lynch and will die anyways here, to attacking havingfitz for rushing the wagon here. I find this a bit more damning that chkflip's play because he at least was consistent.

PT Barnum, havingfitz, and mike are pretty much confirmed town at this point.

I agree, except I would at Satael to the list of town. He basically orchestrated the Pine lynch. That leaves:

Nacho
Chk
Cecily
Myself

I know I'm town, and I've got a town read on Nacho (pine's constant attacks on Pappums vouch for him). So that leaves Chk and Cecily as the remaining scum simply by the process of elimination, without even getting into the cases on those two.

This is suspect because he sheeps Nacho in clearing PT Barnum, havingfitz, and mike for pretty much nonexistent reasoning. (He later says he cleared PT because he was the first vote on the Pine wagon, but then when it's pointed out he was actually 3rd he just says "oops, yeah.") I'd like to know what he thinks of the list he gave here now that Cecily and himself are the only ones left in his list of possible scum. If Bub is scum, based on this post I'd say his buddy is Faraday, fitz or mike.

His next several posts are asking simple questions without any analysis at all and then he attacks PT, but as soon as Faraday replaces in he drops all suspicion of PT.

mod: Did Bub pick up his 'day has started' prod?

[Faraday]

setael you're literally killing me here. bub is town.

[Faraday]

If both Cecily and Mike are town, and you're scum and people believe your claim then yeah, it helps you a lot wouldn't you say? You knew you were up for a lynch if chk flipped town, so your motivation to fake claim is to avoid that happening. If enough townies believe your claim, it would likely save you. Especially where Cecily is one of your targets, she should be pretty easy to get lynched after yesterday's wagon.

Eh? If I'm scum I don't know what power town have left and risk exposing myself to a counterclaim from an investigative role or w/e (hint there won't be, it's just me). if I REALLY want to lock it onto me and cecily why not claim a guilty somewhere?

[Faraday]

ignore that last question, that's derpy I can see why.

[Faraday]

look i'll post a youtube video of me eating my fucking hat if that jerbs post didn't come from town

(well no >_>, but that's how confident i am)

[mikemike778]

Town 1-shot Neighborizer

Targetted Jahudu to neighbour Night 1 but it didn't work for obvious reasons so got another go
Targetted Bub to neighbour Night 2 successfull

Picked Bub to try and get a better read on him as when I made my pick I was pretty neutral on him. To be brutally honest, he did seem to be a reasonably genuine sounding Townie during last night which has forced a bit of a re-think as during Day 3, I got more and more convinced he was scum. If faraday is scum I still have it 50/50 between Bub and Fitz as to who his partner is.

And with that ... Bub's turn to claim.

[havingfitz]

mikemike...can you explain what your role does? How it works?

[Faraday]

vote mikemike

LMAO.

[Faraday]

1-shot. ONE SHOT. ONE SHOT. ONE SHOT. BUT. BUT. HE GOT TO USE IT TWICE. WOW.

[Faraday]

rhinox of a 1-shot vig was roleblocked would he be able to re-use his abillity the next night

[Faraday]

rhinox if a 1-shot gunsmith investigated a player who died would they be able to re-use their abillity the next night

[Faraday]

rhinox if a 1-shot gunsmith investigated a player who died would they be able to re-use their abillity the next night

^ the answer is no and confirmed mikemike as scum.

[havingfitz]

Does the fact there is already a confirmed 1-shot neighborizor matter to anyone? I'm not familiar with the role but it seems odd to have two in one game.

[Faraday]

will confirm*

never have I ever seen a reusable 1-shot abillity. it makes no fucking sense. gg faraday, you're awesome.

[Faraday]

Does the fact there is already a confirmed 1-shot neighborizor matter to anyone? I'm not familiar with the role but it seems odd to have two in one game.

>_>

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forgot this. eh, this makes it even more unlikely. last normal game I remember had 2 of one role types was vi's which was EONS ago. admittedly normal meta may have changed but.

[Faraday]

mikemike why didn't you comment on voidemafia's claim on page 6?

[havingfitz]

Is this a claim Bub can confirm? Does a neighborizor engage someone else in conversation? mikemike? Bub?

Which btw...I see Bub was logged in this morning. I assume he still has 48 hours left coming out of the start of the day before he gets a prod but it would be good to hear from him.

[mikemike778]

1-shot. ONE SHOT. ONE SHOT. ONE SHOT. BUT. BUT. HE GOT TO USE IT TWICE. WOW.

Do you really think I'd be stupid enough to claim that if it wasn't true ... it would be far easier for me to claim either I lost it night 1 or that I just neighboured Bub Day 2 and not mentioned my Day 1 action.

Rhino ... as no-one has asked the appropriate question, can you confirm that if a 1-shot neighbourizer targets someone who dies Night 1 then they will be able able to use it Night 2.

Thanks

You are about to look a little bit silly Mister Faraday.

[Faraday]

i've no idea how stupid you are.