Mafia MetaMafia ~ Game Over!

[MagnaofIllusion]

I just noticed that Day 2 started with Battery Power at only 50% .... hmmmmm

[RayFrost]

It's possible that the mod team decided that ending the day, modkilling mothrax, and halving our battery power was a good punishment or that there's a power that halves the start-of-day battery. You never know. Ah, the joys of modkills providing wifom in such things....

[sottyrulez]

The thing I really dislike about Singer is the issue she made about the Mothrax PM which arguably lead to the modkill. I can't help but think that was deliberate.

Vote: Quadz

He's scum too.

Erm. What?

Singer didn't make a big deal: AGM, demonic angels, and myself, IIRC, were the main people discussing it at the time the mod team came to a decision. Singer at most paid lip service to the topic, while AGM and DA were pushing heavily on it having an impact on the game.

I fail to see why you don't find them suspect and choose to instead single out SS.

That's the whole point. In fact singer at first said the PM sent was null later changing her tune to say she wanted the PM posted in thread so they can judge it. It doesn't matter she wasn't doing much after that request, the fact she made it and than let others bicker over it is enough. Why would she think Vi would agree to post that PM anyway? It was just more fuel to a fire she had already called null.

ScummyMcScum.

~Sotty

[VP Baltar]

@Ray - It makes no sense for you to have not found the thread for so long if you were scum because your role PM would have had a scum daytalk QT link and your buddies would have told you to post before you did.

Also, it seems that a modkill would be enough punishment for a modkill. And besides, battery being reduced today is no biggie since we know quadz is scum. Power lynch.

[RayFrost]

@Ray - It makes no sense for you to have not found the thread for so long if you were scum because your role PM would have had a scum

daytalk QT link

and your buddies would have told you to post before you did.

Also, it seems that a modkill would be enough punishment for a modkill. And besides, battery being reduced today is no biggie since we know quadz is scum. Power lynch.

Where did you get this from?

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Scumslip? VP, that was bad. Like really, really bad. There's NO statement ANYWHERE of daytalk.

Vote: VP Baltar

[RayFrost]

By the above, I want to clarify: there's no confirmation by the mod of the existence of daytalk, yet VP acts as if it is a 100% guaranteed thing in his post (he's basing a

very strong town read

off of this - that's a lot of confidence to put into something that's just undetermined by the mod). This is the reason I feel it is a scumslip. I may be wrong, but... come on.

[VP Baltar]

I could have swore there was somewhere that Vi said something of that nature. But regardless of if she didn't, it's pretty standard in her games. Also, I don't scumslip, don't be an idiot.

[Equinox]

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[RayFrost]

5.

Can the Mafia talk to each other during the Day?

Maybe.

Says it here, but yeh.

You don't scumslip, you're right. I'll walk on by this, but I don't really feel that your point is valid. I've had instances where I've been scum, not known about the game thread, and ended up being prodded (like I was here) before I even realized the game was open. By the by, the game I'm recalling this from happens to be MoCo. Soooooo... yeah. Got any valid reasons for finding me town, or is that it? If that's it, it seems a bit of a stretch to call me a "strong" town read of any kind.

Also, you didn't explain the hito / plum scum reads. Please do so. Now, preferably.

Unvote

[RayFrost]

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Hi equinox. How's the whole reading up on the game thing going? Got any reads to share with us? How about a list of people you think are scum? CAn you do that for me?

[VP Baltar]

5.

Can the Mafia talk to each other during the Day?

Maybe.

Says it here, but yeh.

You don't scumslip, you're right. I'll walk on by this, but I don't really feel that your point is valid. I've had instances where I've been scum, not known about the game thread, and ended up being prodded (like I was here) before I even realized the game was open. By the by, the game I'm recalling this from happens to be MoCo. Soooooo... yeah. Got any valid reasons for finding me town, or is that it? If that's it, it seems a bit of a stretch to call me a "strong" town read of any kind.

Also, you didn't explain the hito / plum scum reads. Please do so. Now, preferably.

Unvote

I don't think it requires a lot to get a strong town read on someone. A single occurrence like that which is highly unlikely to come from scum is enough for me sometimes. You have to look at the most likely scenario and decide. Nothing is ever off the table in a mafia game when wifom is involved of course, but I just really don't think such a late entrance would happen if you were scum.

Anyhow, re: hito - his play is pretty empty so far other than some rambly strategy talk that made little sense, a weird push on AGM that turned into backing off later and avoidance of lynching quadz, who is scum.

re: Plum - I didn't mind her posting all that much, but her nonparticipation in the thread, especially as sottyrulez pushed on her licks of the same scum meta she showed in Mafia Holographica.

[sottyrulez]

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Hi equinox. How's the whole reading up on the game thing going? Got any reads to share with us? How about a list of people you think are scum? CAn you do that for me?

That's going to be a little difficult.

[RayFrost]

Mmmkmay, makes sense.

Can you tell me why quadz is scummier than them if you have meta and the like to support your cases? Not really following the <I don't agree with it, but it makes sense logic> of those two in contrast with the <I don't agree with it, and I have trouble even following it logic> of quadz-case. Might be due to the fact nobody's laid out a perfectly neat case for me. I have difficulty reading between the lines.

Aside from that, I really do think I'm going to end up with an overflow of town reads this game. I'm not sure if I'm happy about that.

[RayFrost]

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Hi equinox. How's the whole reading up on the game thing going? Got any reads to share with us? How about a list of people you think are scum? CAn you do that for me?

That's going to be a little difficult.

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wut

[sottyrulez]

She's dead man.

[RayFrost]

Oh, right. I forgot. Sorry, equi. >.>

God I shouldn't post late at night. Yeah, I'm going to stop posting now. See yah.

[VP Baltar]

re:quadz - a fairly explicit case was laid out by Seraphim yesterday, but I really don't see how anyone can not see pretty much everything he posts as scummy. From his obsessive self defense to that horribad "case" he made on DDD...give me a break.

[ooba]

Post 5 - Thu May 05, 2011 7:04 am (100%)
Post 283 - Fri May 06, 2011 7:02 am (96%)
Post 438 - Sat May 07, 2011 6:48 am (90%)
Post 532 - Sun May 08, 2011 6:32 am (80%)
Post 657 - May 08, 2011 6:24 pm (73%)

4% = 1438 min, 45 vote changes, 278 posts
6% = 1424 min, 5 vote changes, 155 posts
10% = 1424 min, 1 vote change, 94 posts
7% = 712 min, 2 vote change, 125 posts

Battery usage proportional to time spent and inversely proportional to number of vote changes and posts.

Default reduction in percentage:
-11% for a day (1440 min)

Battery addition (or drainage reduction) for posting - Number of Posts between vote counts
50 - 99: +1%
100 - 149: +2%
>150: +3%

Battery addition (or drainage reduction) for voting - Number of vote switches between vote counts
5-9: +2%
9-24: +3%
>25: +4%

Works for all VC except the last (7%). I'll refine this as more VC's come up .. Therefore if I had to estimate from yesterday's usage - we have a week till deadline for 50% ..

[VP Baltar]

Yeah, most Vi batteries end up at 2 week days normally given optimal posting conditions. So if we stay active, I would guess around a week too.

[Faraday]

Vote Quadz

why are we claiming worships and stuff? (what does it do for us)

[Magua]

We shouldn't be claiming worships. With three kills, the possibility of being able to narrow down a liar to within three people is reduced, any confirmed non-liar group we can get at this point is probably just going to get gunned down tonight.

Besides, since I'm assuming most town worshipped N0 and N1, this will be the first night they can cast something, and so they probably will. I doubt there'll be a lot of worshipping going on tonight besides the mafia, which removes the other side of the claiming, so people know what they should be worshipping.

I'll reread Equinox and Duplicity later; Duplicity in particular I find to be a weird kill, because he was firmly in the middle of the pack yesterday in terms of being suspected. Nicki Minaj's kill flavor is odd, especially with them flipping as Vi, but I'm willing to wait till D3 to see if it repeats itself or if it was one-off.

In the meantime, Faraday is still town. Gammagooey is still town.

[Faraday]

I'm willing to discuss indepth strategy on a deep level once we get 5 more votes on quadz. COMPROMISE, yes we can.

[VP Baltar]

Nicki Minaj's kill flavor is odd, especially with them flipping as Vi

huh?

[VP Baltar]

Also, I just realized the hilarity of Vi being the town cop.

DDD - I'd like something decent from you today. Reassure me of your towniness, you know.

[ooba]

We definitely need to do a faith claim + a domain claim ..