Mafia MetaMafia ~ Game Over!

[Demonic Angel]

Besides, since I'm assuming most town worshipped N0 and N1.

I have much reason to disagree with this statement.

Though, I don't think a domain/worship claim today is the way to go either.

[Demonic Angel]

Also MOI is still alive...

/WIFOM.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Also, I just realized the hilarity of Vi being the town cop.

DDD - I'd like something decent from you today. Reassure me of your towniness, you know.

K, given that no one bothers to do night-kill analysis would you describe your comfort level about killing Nicki Minaj as more "chilling on the beach" or more "having a lay-in on a lazy Sunday morning"?

We definitely need to do a faith claim + a domain claim ..

No good reasons = no claims.

[VP Baltar]

what an asstoot response. For real though DDD, lack of WWE belt aside, it's time to get in the fray. If we're having 3 kills a night, there isn't really time to be playing around until day 3 before you get in the action. You know I usually give you room to play backseat until later, but I'd like some people to bounce ideas off of and I want to be able to know you're town so I can do that with you.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Here, just quote this post and start bouncing.

For example, besides obv-scum quadz, let's discuss VV. What do you think about him?

[VP Baltar]

One of MoI and VV is probably scum, but I'm leaning the latter in this case.

I don't think you realize that the jedi mind tricks don't work on me. If I had the obv. town read on you, I wouldn't be pressing you for more content. I'm asking you one last time to give me something I can work with here. I'm giving you points cause quadz is scum and you were on him early enough, but then again he's also weak here and would be a reasonable bus.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

That's not a discussion; that's a throw-away comment that would never be referenced again by anyone other than you as a callback to your opinion at the time. Really, I just offered you a chance to work on building something and engaging in the sort of dialogue you claimed to want and you just brushed me off.

[VP Baltar]

You asked me what I thought of him and I told you...that's not really brushing you off. But for the sake of elaboration, I will say that he seems wimpy this game and hesitant to really get into it with anyone. As a comparison, I would say VV in SAIII was tangling with people left and right regardless of if he was making good points or not. Then you look at Mafia Holographica where he was scum and he was pretty lurky and didn't really have much active input on the game state. I think it's easy to see which one of these he is playing more like. VV is one of those players that plays his town game on his sleeve, and I'm just not seeing that here, that's why I think he's scum.

Better? Can I get your thoughts now?

[MagnaofIllusion]

Catch-up from my last Post Day 1 until end of Day –

Nobody Special is Town. NS – don’t slink back into lurking Day 2.

VV basically lurked out any sort of pressure on him Day 1.

Katsuki’s (Demonic Angel) picking at Equinox (310) for giving flexible reads (and questioning what is scum-hunting) while not providing anything concrete her / themselves is scummy. Furthermore their fluffy, active lurking style the rest of the day earns them a scum-read for Kats’s history. Early Town read revoked.

VV had convienantly disappeaered from Sottyrulez radar as of 467. Interesting given in that post Sotty still has his vote on VV.

Town Reads

– Gamma, Faraday, Magua

Scum to Maybe Scum Reads

– VV, DemonicAngel, hito, Parama, VPB and Singer

Everyone else is in that meh-TwilightZone-Middle Ground currently.

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@Duplicity

– Why I missing from your massive reads list at 341?

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I’m not particularly enamored of Singer’s play in regards to Quadz. Excerpts below -

OMG, Equinox+quadz duo? Blatant buddying ftw! Oh wait, I forgot those aren't legitimate scum tells anymore. Or are they?
vote: Equinox

Chooses to vote Equinox over Quadz while calling them partners.

Right now, my read on him is scum, but I'd like to see him incriminate himself more, considering he'll lend well to finding his partners.

Why would you want to see him incriminate himself more? If she had a true “I can read Quadz like a book” scum read I don’t see her not voting him.

Her next post posits she’s feels likely to “end up going back to my policy on NS”.

His next post clearly doesn't want quadz dead, and I have a pretty strong scum-read on quadz, which doesn't make me feel to great about MoI.

From 338 – she still does not have a Quadz vote at this juncture so I find this suspicious as hell. She finally votes at 342 when she gets to VPB’s prompting.

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What do you think of VV?

If you're comparing him to quadz, quadz is far worse. I don't have a strong read on VV either way at this point. He does tend to OMGUS a lot, so that's not really a surprise.

Looks very much to me like dodging giving any sort of solid read on VV. If Quadz ends up Town VPB rockets to the top of my scum chart.

I want to know why singer isn't voting quadz...the person she can read like a book and thinks is scum

A good question … which is never followed up on that I can see. Distancing perhaps?

[VP Baltar]

Dave's

Duplicity's not here, man.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Baltar, actually I came to the same conclusion but apparently backwards; he was really lurky as town in Road to Wrestlemania; had 36 total posts over the course of 100+ pages (and he was alive for at least five days plus there was the RR pre-game phase where he had several posts) but he had real good reads when he did post in regards to GMan, Sotty, and AV. He's already got 20 posts in one day of this game and it's much more banging random things together than the good postings of RtW which makes me think opposite alignment which in this case would be scum.

[sottyrulez]

Vas is still up there on our scum reads Magna, it's just that there hasn't been much to add to beyond what we've said already + there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of excitement for wagoning him either.

[MagnaofIllusion]

Dave's

Duplicity's not here, man.

God damn it ....

[Faraday]

CHESSKID is that you?

[VP Baltar]

@DDD - Works for me. And just seeing some thought process already makes me feel better about ya.

@SR - Once we deal with quadz, I'm definitely open to talking about the validity of a VV lynch.

Speaking of which...why aren't you voting quadz MoI? KILLKILLKILLKILL

[Demonic Angel]

lol now this is the scum-MOI I know.

1. Twists my case on Equinox into scumtell (and blatantly twists what my case was as well).
2. Labels posts as fluff even when they're not.

Looks like we're getting a repeat of Return to Liten here.

[Demonic Angel]

Just realized.

Vote: Quadz

[MagnaofIllusion]

Speaking of which...why aren't you voting quadz MoI? KILLKILLKILLKILL

Because I'm not enthused at all of the circumstances we are in.

Quadz is the OBV-lynch and surprise suprise we have a short day which raises the already strong likelyhood he takes the rope.

Throw in the fact that many of the people who I have scum to maybe scum reads are pushing him and I'm a big ball of meh.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I smell set-up.

[VP Baltar]

So you don't think he's town, you think

Conspiracy!

Cool.

[VP Baltar]

EBWOP: and by town I mean, think he has done anything to indicate that he's town. I get that you're claiming he's town because of said

Conspiracy!

[Zachrulez]

Speaking of which...why aren't you voting quadz MoI? KILLKILLKILLKILL

Because I'm not enthused at all of the circumstances we are in.

Quadz is the OBV-lynch and surprise suprise we have a short day which raises the already strong likelyhood he takes the rope.

Throw in the fact that many of the people who I have scum to maybe scum reads are pushing him and I'm a big ball of meh.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I smell set-up.

Don't drink the wine.

That said, I wouldn't mind joining wagon on Vas or Plum should one form. I think they're both good lynches at this point too.

[sottyrulez]

Speaking of which...why aren't you voting quadz MoI? KILLKILLKILLKILL

Because I'm not enthused at all of the circumstances we are in.

Quadz is the OBV-lynch and surprise suprise we have a short day which raises the already strong likelyhood he takes the rope.

Throw in the fact that many of the people who I have scum to maybe scum reads are pushing him and I'm a big ball of meh.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong but I smell set-up.

Don't drink the wine.

That said, I wouldn't mind joining wagon on Vas or Plum should one form. I think they're both good lynches at this point too.

[Seraphim]

NK analysis time!

3) Duplicity (Regfan+gorilla) - High Priest of Adel - Town - Shot Night 1...
4) Equinox - High Priestess of UncertainKitten - Town - Pwned Night 1...
12) Nicki Minaj (Nikanor+Mina) - High Priest/ess of Vi - Town - Inexplicably Mutated Night 1...

Alright, out of all these, I postulate that scum had the most motivation to kill Nicki out of all of these players. She claimed a cop ability and that's most likely why she died. Duplicity kill looks like some sort of vig shot or SK shot. The Equinox kill puzzles me though.

I'm going to finish my reread up, which will probably be followed by a quadz vote. We sort of got cheated out of a lynch yesterday and now we've only got 50% battery.

[MagnaofIllusion]

1. Twists my case on Equinox into scumtell (and blatantly twists what my case was as well).
2. Labels posts as fluff even when they're not.

1. Your ‘case’ was that Equinox was scum for saying he needed to re-read certain players and leaving himself ‘room to move’. Aside from the fact that Equinox was Town that was a crappy case to begin with. It’s scummy because your ISO is littered with lack of solid opinions.
2. I’d like you to direct me to the non-fluff posts in Kats / DA’s ISO. Then I’ll provide a list of pure fluff in both and we can talk.

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EBWOP: and by town I mean, think he has done anything to indicate that he's town. I get that you're claiming he's town because of said Conspiracy!

1. I’ve looked at Quadz’s ISO. His push on Nicki is bad. I disagree that saying “Was that a Serious Vote” is a scum-tell. Sorry, it’s not. And saying “he responded like scum to pressure” also isn’t a solid, convincing case, IMO. I see both SO often from Town. Furthermore when he makes his return his vote and top scum read is DDD. He could have gone for either Parama or VV if he really wanted to have a chance at building a counter-wagon (unless both are partners of his … which is possible I suppose). Doesn’t read as scumtastic play to me. Overall he doesn’t earn a lock-down scum read from me.
2. I like how you are once again going to the Condescending VPB playbook. Makes me more and more happy about my read on you each time you do it. Feel free to completely

@VPB

– Do you think it likely VV is scum with Quadz given how the main counterwagon to Quadz early was VV?

[Gammagooey]

This is happening.

Vote:Quadz

Claiming n1 worships is fine, claiming domains+faith is iffier but I think it would still be alright.