Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[SpyreX]

That's what I was gonna do JULS!

Still doing it.

Vote: Juls

On a more serious note, the real rules of speed mafia:

1.) 48 hours = instant death.
2.) See rule 1.

No catchup posts or "i'll be here promise."

Content or death.

[SpyreX]

Really?

You gotta mock me out of the gate?

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD.

Let's take bets on who is going to flake.

My money is on Katsuki.

On the plus side no one is flaking for more than a game day.

I'm serious about this. I think that speed CAN really swing things in a good way as long as no one puts on the shades and slides into cruise control.

[SpyreX]

Aaaandddd it begins

random.org says:
Vote Juls

Got something more awesome than this?

I'm gonna need more awesome.

[SpyreX]

Cha-chink.

That's strike two.

[SpyreX]

Kill someone page one? That may happen.

But not yet.

OHHH Camnnnnnnnnnn get in here.

[SpyreX]

Can't kill Juls right now.

More important things on the menu. More awesome things.

See AGM, we're gonna be friends this game.

BUT DONT SPOIL THE FUN EARLY GOSH

[SpyreX]

I go to dinner and THIS many pages?

I could just cry.

Unvote, Vote: Kats

Wing is on the short list. However, there's a bit of hesitation now after that last little business and him being a precious young flower.

I'm like.... ONE short from a voting block.

Just one.

[SpyreX]

Ben.

I can smell the town on you.

This is good.

Juls, P SURE, is not scum.

DO NOT GET SIDETRACKED

[SpyreX]

The slap fight ends.

Kats, who's good un bad das far?

[SpyreX]

Lets not get TOO crazy yet.

We're keeping momentum but you damn well know right that we need some time to see who needs the sharpening.

Juls last post makes me feel funny in all sorts of ways.
AGM is scum for the post where he voted Wing after your post.

Well, sharpening besides Kat who if this is what we're getting then Khorne will have his.

Soon

[SpyreX]

RECK

get back here.

I've got questions for you.

[SpyreX]

Try harder then.

AS AN ASIDE (and I'm serious):

If any of you have seen players in this game who haven't posted post somewhere else let me know.

I've got hunches and plans. punches, if you will. or hlans.

[SpyreX]

I already CHECKED that one and my 8-ball keeps saying check later.

Sall good though because I've got those good good good vibrations all up in this bidness.

We may form a horde soon. True story

[SpyreX]

Sheeping spyrex would be the way to go.

Also a true story.

[SpyreX]

AGM was a little trigger happy, but mos def not sheeping.

AGM in fact is my #1 best town read and second in command of the horde when the time comes.

[SpyreX]

I haven't pointed the horde yet.

You can tell because there's not a rope around your neck.

Although REALLY NOW you're not making me not want to make that happen.

[SpyreX]

That seems to be well within the rule 1 framework.

STAMP OF APPROVAL

[SpyreX]

@Mod: Can you send out a poke/thread location to the slackers?

[SpyreX]

If my first post was a scum tell this is claiming a scum PR.

you...

I


what

[SpyreX]

9 different comments in my post. 1 is irrelevant fluff. 4 are scumhunting. 1 is a warning. 1 is townhunting. 2 are defense. Watch yourself for tunneling.

You know whats not in that post?

AGM I BET YOU KNOW

WANNA SHEEP ME MORE AND SAY

[SpyreX]

That's a good answer.

But, good sir, there's a far more obvious one.

I believe in you.

HEY CAMN

<3

[SpyreX]

Also thread

, we have up to 96 hours for a single day, which is more than enough, there is no need for intentionally posting incoherence in an attempt to simply post.

You better qualify.

First post was a joke (he's the only person in here I've played with/recognize.) Second post is entirely unhelpful towards anything, but I don't have any scumreads so far

that haven't already been mentioned

and I'm not ready to start calling people town like everyone else is doing.

Welcome to the short list.

[SpyreX]

DING DING DING

You win!

God so many choices

[SpyreX]

.......

You sir are a genius.

We need ohhh HALF THE GAME to show up and then we can get this party started.

[SpyreX]

Note: Amrun on and posting.

[SpyreX]

There's not like secretly 8 scum, right?

[SpyreX]

Yee-haw:

I don't browse the Theme Park. I browse my subscribed threads.Does anyone really do that?

I've been travelling all day and reached my destination at 2am, thus been phone posting all day.

I found this thread by checking Patrick's threads to make double sure the game hadn't started even though I never received a link (which I am going to double check).

Just read thread, am compiling thoughts.

#159 » Thu May 12, 2011 1:46 am
#160 » Thu May 12, 2011 1:52 am

6 minutes. Mother of all coincidences, no?

No.

And then a vote on Kat. Snap.

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@CGB:

Amun explanation. I'm gonna need that one.

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@Mask:

You've got stones, I appreciate that.

This whole "Look he's deflecting one buddy onto two other buddies and lurking by ???" is tech though.

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Cobbler is a slight bit insane, but I think its in a good way. We'll see.

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Listen bitch, you only get to be in the voting block with me and Juls if I say so. You rejected my first request. Also not sure you're town. You just called Benmage town and this makes my brain implode from lack of reason. DGB may agree, but luckily she's town due to meta.

What in the hell are you on mr maan? What did I reject?

As for Ben he's more transparent than me. Look at the context and ignore the name. That's town business right up ins there and you know it.

I'M HERE NOW. WAS BUSY DRINKING THE BEERS.

AGM shifts attention off of Katsukiscum and back onto lurkingpacman? ALSO NOT PRO-TOWN POSTING.

Okay, but then evilpacman showed up and actually posted. And it was bad.

Worse though is probably SpyreX…

AND NOW I DONT REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS I WANTED HOPE THOSE BEERS WERE DELICIOUS

I'm pretty sure it was a WD/Kats question. It seems too easy? And not in that slam dunk way its making my teeth itch a bit. I mean I'll make them eat rope but I'm not as happy about it as I'd like to be.

And yea Ludi is on that good list.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT I AM TALKIN ABOUT WITH PACMAN DAMNIT DONT BE COY I NEED YOU HERE

[SpyreX]

Ohh sheesh you cheeky bastard.

I said no Juls because LIKE YOU KNOW Juls is awesome and town.

That doesn't mean we're not assembling. I just want a few more recruits.

WD came out with the "tee hee random vote" "i'll give a joke reply to SpyreX" to the SLAM DUNK "content? RVS??" - the problem is its TOO perfect and goes around the horn some.

Pacman is the other end of the spectrum - his WORDS are there but they're not saying anything... or, to be more specific, what they're saying when parsed causes an abort/retry/fail loop. Juls isn't just scum but a scum PR for giving her schedule? "4 are scumhunting" and STILL NOT A DAMN VOTE? Some kinda madness scenario of scum will buddy all over and YOU WONT SEE IT UNTIL ITS TOO LATE + gif that's larger than all the words? YEEHAW

And Kat just mystifies me in that bad way. I just get paranoid when people come in lay down A POST and hop on there like its a damn cop claim. It burns us.

[SpyreX]

I'm on Kats? I THINK

[SpyreX]

Yea I am. God don't do that.

Hence the whole Masks saying I'm captain saveaho on WD.

[SpyreX]

On a different note since you're my bouncing wall:

These awesome "coincidences" thus far?

Purge with fire? I think yes.

[SpyreX]

The "random vote" on Juls with the followup "Ohh its RVS" business when Juls was one of a handful who actually had votes (yea yea this business ALWAYS makes me paranoid).

That doesn't hold a candle to the Amrun callout / showup 5 minutes later.

Thank you DGB I thought I was missing something.

[SpyreX]

So, here's what I propose in no particular order:

THE DARK HORDE:
Benmage
Juls
CDB
Reck
Ludi
SpyreX
AGM

POTENTIAL RECRUIT:
Cobbler

VILLAGES TO BE PLUNDERED:
Amrun
WD
Kat
Pacman

VILLAGES THAT MAY BE PLUNDERED FOR REAL REASONS:
KKB
Mask

EVERYONE ELSE SHOULD BURN:
YEP (That means you aren't a presence at ALL DIAF)

[SpyreX]

I did thats CDB you goof.

Beetlejuice.
Beetlejuice.

So, you were on posting and just happened to jump in right then. Also, where did CDB call you out?

[SpyreX]

223 alone could be enough to get a rope. Scratch cobbler down some.

IF sinners decide my MASS O WORDS means for dead YOU SUCKERS QUOTE THIS AND LYNCH AMU

Reck while the contents of the list itself are kinda WOOSH in spots I kinda get a good vibe from its existence.

We'll see though

[SpyreX]

....

Haylen, did you just call out Reck and not me for calling for an alliance?

And your vote was on ME for PRESSURE?

WOOOOOOooOOooOOSH

[SpyreX]

Hold up a sec.

NO FUNNY HAMMERS UNTIL I SAY GO

[SpyreX]

Hrm.

Only a weak doctor or a tracker could resolve this mess without death and that could still be godfather'd.

HRMMM

[SpyreX]

Ok I need someone to bounce this off of.

Kat being scum is a decent shot but not enough of a slam dunk I'm power happy with the death hammer. Hider is a meh claim BUT its kinda? confirmable - worst case scenario is we go lololfom and lynch later after results.

However, lynch is tech for time and for candy and for if I am wrong. Further, even a town flip is some nuggets of MYSTERIOUS WISDOM for later.

GAH I just dont know

[SpyreX]

PREDIT: Woah, you're still voting for Katsuki aren't you? But you're showing doubts? And trying to make it seem like a town lynch wouldn't be as bad?

Yep. OHH HOT DAMN

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Damnit you two that's not an acceptable reason and you know it:

1) Anything not on this list doesn't appear in the game
2) No role is guaranteed to be in the game, aside from vanilla townie

3) Any role can appear twice or more

4) A mafia member cannot perform a nightkill and another action on the same night

And yea it goes without saying Kat's on

a leash

MY LEASH if she doesn't get the rope.

And good lord look at the roles what was she going to claim for petes sake? Hider and Weak Doc are cop-lite's in this business AND a CC here would be a big ol "don't shoot here"

COME ON

[SpyreX]

Reckkkk

HELP ME

[SpyreX]

Hard to be flexible.

Well done.

Screw it HAMMER IS GO.

I want a locked thread when I get back.

[SpyreX]

And in case I'm dead:

The horde is to demolish that list. Remember rule #1 because THATS GONNA DONE BE AN ISSUE.

What I'm saying here is there's WAY too many non-factors already.

[SpyreX]

If that list you just posted is all "the town" I'd eat a million hats.

I don't care about banking. I could have 3 months banked and I'm still gonna push it to the limit.

Kat's gotta go.

[SpyreX]

Its not there.

I wouldn't CRY if Kat had a chance to post before roping JIC.

[SpyreX]

I was kinda hopin this would have went through.

I also kinda agree with camn - although I'd prefer the caveat we pick a few targets (good ol 3) and Kat hides behind one of them SO if dead then.

I'm not moved by Kat's posts at all though and thats a BIG issue.

I have a brewing suspicion that IF Amrun = scum THEN there is another scum found. I wouldn't want to spoil that surprise though.

I like Ludi lots still but I want more DIG MAN DIG.

AGM is still tech and town.

[SpyreX]

Burning he-witches is a pastime of mine. You failed to address why you never voted WD.

Are you saying there's any doubt about my position on WD? Any at all?

Yeehaw

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Goofball - we have a deadline quickly approaching, we need to bank all the time we can get, and Katsuki's the obvious lynch for today.

Dude.

3 days.

This is FINE but don't go all chicken little.

NEEDLESS to say the secret Amrun buddy on an Amrun scum flip is Cobbler. Mostly due to paranoia about:

Fwew. Finally done catching up. I've played as scumbuddies with Amrun in a previous game and he's acting way different so I trust him. My top two are Katsuki and AlmasterGM. Well, Katsuki is more of a variable, but I do trust Amrun and I think the cupcake will make a good lunch lynch.

The game he finished as scum had someone with a cat. That's the end of the resemblance.

SOOO

If Kat doesn't get rope hide behind one of:
WD
Pacman
Cobbler

And lynch Amrun.

BUT, this needs to be decided today.

[SpyreX]

Ohh I dont want to drag this out. IF it switches it needs to switch fast.

In essence we need to switch the whole horde today and go from there.

[SpyreX]

If "these people need to die in rapid succession" isn't a strong stance then WELP.

RECK you down for Amunnrunrunr orrrr

[SpyreX]

There's no vig.

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

Lets get this party started.

[SpyreX]

PATIENCE OBI WAN

Pro-tip: If this wagon gets split its going right back onto Kat

[SpyreX]

I had good vibes from Cobble some and then TERRIBLE vibes.

Amun has been "ohh accident" and.... butterflies.

BUT WHATEVER IT TAKES since I'm powerlynching the other if one is scum.

[SpyreX]

Lining up potential mislynches ohh good lord

Haylen is doin a fat stack of nothing and that's not awesome.

ALSO I saw Ludi on I'm not amused.

Unvote, Vote: Cobble

[SpyreX]

Cobble scum = Amun
Cobble town... different avenues depending on Kat's business. Probably WD off the cuff for replace out lols and the early business by an edge over pacman.

[SpyreX]

And yea I think Ludi is town and that actually makes me MORE angry he's not in here.

[SpyreX]

Replacing out of THIS game and starting another hell yes it does.

[SpyreX]

@SpyreX: Since I'm not in WD's ongoing game, I guess I can mention that he set a preference for being scum > town. In addition, he says that he comes online to post on a daily basis. Wouldn't his replacing out be more indicative of bored townie, or someone who couldn't keep up with the pace of the game because they have no buddies to help them follow?

If that IS the case I'm more than a little disgusted.

And, ultimately, still lynching for it.

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See RECK SEE GOD

[SpyreX]

I still think deep in my belly that whole "Ohh I got you confused" was a big slip but we'll see.

[SpyreX]

Placeholder?

I'm pretty sure you went from "there's no case here" to "ohh he replaced out VOTE" to back to it.

Ohhh man ohh man

[SpyreX]

Done.

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

[SpyreX]

Participating more?

In which of his three posts?

[SpyreX]

I think either way the events of today/tonight go C-Worl is a mighty fine lynch.

AGM I dig but have faith. I BELIEVE.

BELIEVE TOO.

(ps lynch Amrun)

Also, random thought to get out there, not sure if this is true yet - I have a sneaking suspicion if Katsuki and Amrun are both scum, that Cobbler is town and Juls is scum. She has consistently tried to sneak the wagon away from those two onto Cobbler without any REAL reason for doing so, so I'm pretty skeptical of her motives at this point.

I'd be shocked if Kat AND Amrun were scum.

If that were the case I could maybe see it. Maybe I'm jaded on Juls from early gut sparks but we'll see.

[SpyreX]

Which that what?

[SpyreX]

Speed CAN be an advantage for scum.

If they're allowed to slink.

I've been in 2 truly speed games and those were both town wins because of the speed - and activity.

Already this game makes me nervous on that front a lot.

[SpyreX]

You're missing the even more awesome part of that post.

But can we do Amrun first kk sheep n sap?

[SpyreX]

The fact they were never scum together! (except this game)

@Spy - I love you but you seem to be leading everyone on a wild goose chase. You have FoS'd 3 quarters of the players and keep saying "so-and-so would be a fine lynch". We should all focus and agree on Cobbler or Katsuki in my opinion.

I gots nothin but love but you better go ahead and expand this "3 quarters of the game" business or go "oops, you actually have more town than scum and neither of those individually or probably even together are 3 quarters of anything my bad vote: amunrunrnr"

[SpyreX]

And just so we've got this part absolutely clear:

Thu May 12, 2011 1:27 am <- AM's post in a different game I saw.
Thu May 12, 2011 1:46 am <- Me calling this out.
Thu May 12, 2011 1:52 am <- "Coincidental" posting in this game

So, the story to be bought is "Ohh I was posting in my games (because I'm pretty active in all my games except this one HUH) and then just after getting called out for not posting here (but not because of it) I just happened to check Patrick's things (also note: not THeme Park directly) and just happened to post less than 10 minutes after being called out for a game that opened over a day ago."

Yeeaaa

[SpyreX]

I admit, 3/4 is an exageration (Cobble, Amrun, Kat, WD, Pacman with mild on Mask, are the ones I see, is this accurate?). But you are fosing several and it feels like you see a shiny penny and forget about the quarter sitting right in front of you. I would like to see more focus because we don't have time to jump all over the place. It wasn't an accusation but a request.

Ohh, they're all dead. Its just a function of order (and maybe not Mask I cant make up my mind there)

I should be offended CDB gets all the love when I'm pretty sure I said pick of three first BUT.

CANDIDATES FOR POTENTIAL HIDE N' SEEK BEDROOM:

JULS
PACMAN
AGM

This is fine with the request to swap out Juls or AGM for Cobble on an Amrun town flip.

[SpyreX]

Not surprised by the VT claim.

Not dissuaded either. Juls you're makin me paranoid.

One more post like 452 and maybe we swing 700 degrees

[SpyreX]

Because I don't believe in mystical coincidences.

Kat's gonna come out in the wash. I still think Cobble scum = Amrun scum which means this is kinda a wooosh.

Frankly, I can't see why you think Amrun isn't a good lynch.

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God in heaven I'm pretty sure I've answered that in part.

Cobble shifts some. Kats becomes a bit more likely but still we'll see. WD and pacman die regardless.

[SpyreX]

The "placeholder" vote sure as hell is though and the reasoning behind that.

[SpyreX]

I'm banking on if Amrun scum they can't afford that on Juls or AGMish.

And I'm not makin it that far and you know it. They can teehee all they want but when the horde assembles it aint gonna be worth messin with.

[SpyreX]

"What, being busy?" in no way shape or form is a question.

BUT I'll answer the actual question hiding there:

I know my vote on him is terrible. It's a placeholder vote. My only strong scumread was Katsuki and she has claimed something we can test.

So, as I said, back to the drawing board.

p-edit: I really don't see this Cobblerfone thing.

Calling out a poor vote doesn't change it being a poor vote. Further, since at this point you'd said anything about ohh TWO people going "Hm, this can be tested lets go this way." with words and reasons sure is a lot better than copping out. ESPECIALLY since you voted him before and didn't do this hand wringing business.

BUT LETS END THIS:

Going to re-read. Back to the drawing board.

I said way back when that he was my second scumread. I also said I'm going to do a re-read and it's likely my vote will change when I do so.

I was going to try and re read tonight but my computer hates me.

For now, though still need to re-read.

Reckoner: I'm not going to change my reads to make myself look better. Period. WD vote is weak, but I'm doing a full re-read today and will have something better up soon.

The C-Worl/wd vote is, again, just a placeholder until I re-read which will be done within 24 hours. Both that slot and Kanye is mostly gut so there's not a lot to substantiate them without re-examining the thread looking at all players in light of new developments.

But all that's really important is that no one hammer me until I get a chance to re-read and post cases etc.

I can read momentum, okay. My lynch is likely to go through and I know that. Either way, I want the opportunity to post my cases. Working on a re-read now.

Still working on re-reading. Internet is being spotty.

That doesn't include other words that also mean just that.

And, yet, somehow, you've obviously got a grasp on whats going on. Just not when it comes to...hmm...

Finding the scum.

Its a mystery.

[SpyreX]

Ohhhhhh man I'm 3rd on the scum list.

YEA.

"Ohh look he ignored Masks 'case' lets watch me pretend that the single biggest thing I've said in this speed game isn't 'I'll reread'"

You were close on a quote though I'll fix it:

I guess this case sort of boils down to gut, but I wanted to put it out there because I think

SpyreX is

setting himself up to be

beyond reproach

, which would be a very bad thing if he is scum as I suspect. Still, not my top suspect.

Thats better.

[SpyreX]

Yea like calling Mask a lurker while agreeing with his 'case' on me.

Or putting the towel around your head about the simple fact half your posts are "I'll reread, promise."

Or pulling in any fashion the MERE MINUTES trick.

I'll dance the dance.

However, when the tango is over someone's gonna be in a rope. And it aint me.

[SpyreX]

You can watch me all the way to the bank.

Yea, MERE MINUTES. Talking about the timing of tajo's 'shift' (which I'll give you if WD ends up scum and there's not the right fallout would be something to remember - but doubtful)

[SpyreX]

Yea, that you've went all indignant about.

Member that.

[SpyreX]

Oh hot damn.

Its not a function of any dissonance on my part because it has not a whit to do with me:

You, who call my callout and you posting MERE MINUTES later a "fishy coincidence" didn't even blink an eye or reference that dichotomy in going MERE MINUTES all over tajo's 'reads changing' - of which I directly said that the WD one could be interesting but painting the others as severe scum mental collapse caused by moonbeams is woosh ex machina.

So, the action of calling someone out for MERE MINUTES? That's not a "scumtell"

You, contextually doing that without even a giggle? Yea thats some teaparty right there.

[SpyreX]

I made negative references to you saying I was scummy for calling you out.

Nowhere can those words be shaken into words that make that even begin to make sense.

Again, I'm saying you painting any kind of dissonance via "Well YOU DID IT TOOO!" when that's not even make believe the issue there is somethin else.

[SpyreX]

The simple fact you didn't even make a nod to the context of your statement to earlier things and pushed the MERE MINUTES as raw pure gold considering how it has been utilized from your perspective thus far in this game is definitely of note.

Or, if you will:

Or pulling in any fashion the MERE MINUTES trick.

In reference to me "not being helpful".

[SpyreX]

Kinda is.

But, that's really not even an issue and this is arguing for the sake of arguing.

Thats what happens when I'm bored and not ready to go to bed.

[SpyreX]

I've outright said that's not what I'm saying.

I'm saying the idea of me having any kind of dissonance for doing it and calling you scummy for doing it is moonbeams.

You've done plenty of things on your own to get lynched for its not like I need to make ones up sheesh.

[SpyreX]

At least we're in agreement about our disagreement.

Any particular burial rites you need?

[SpyreX]

Yea I'd be stoked to see this done in the morning.

It wont because there's always gotta be feelings and whatnot but.

[SpyreX]

There COULD be some upside to it but as scum/vt even the best case scenario townside still isn't as good as it could be.

Tajo's not high up on my priorities and definitely wouldn't be a left turn lynch (that'd be c-worl).

There will not be dithering. That will not happen. If I'm wrong and you're town at least we'll kill you fast.

[SpyreX]

What in the name of all that is holy happened overnight?

tbqh we need to lynch between Amrun & Katsuki today, and like I said, my vote is only going one of those two places

THIS.

Good lord people.

I'm down with lurkerdeaths but not when we've been arguing HARD about not one but TWO players today.

There's a timeout corner and I think some of you need to go to it. Others need spankings.

You know which is which.

[SpyreX]

DUDE ITS NOT BUDDYING WHEN YOU ARE RIGHT JESUS

Not like we're not going to be arguing later but god in heaven.

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I'm gonna strangle you both. BOTH OF YOU.

[SpyreX]

I've gotta go for a bit. Someone give me this list that lept to Haylen.

I've got a hunch.

[SpyreX]

I seriously hate you guys right about now.

WHAT happened. Why?

WHY?

CDB you know better than the line you're pullin with xRECKx about 'more information'.

Give me a sec to look at this wagon because when this is a town flip AND one of those two chuckleheads is scum you know damn well I'm going to purge this with fire.

Additionally I'm hammering tonight. Disgusted, but hammering.

[SpyreX]

Ohh I swear to god

[SpyreX]

Haylen (8) -- CrimpingNoofball, Cobblerfone, AlmasterGM, Magister Ludi, Juls, Amrun, Lowell, C-Worl, Reck, Pacman.

CNB:

POSSIBLY SCUM
kaneyeKB

evilpacman

Lowell

Magister Ludi

SCUM
Sathoris

WingDamage/C-Worl

Haylen

xRECKx

Cobbler:
WHO KNOWS ITS A MYSTERY
Well, except for

Amrun

,

AGM

AGM:

Ludi

Pacman

Kat

WD

Amrun

Ludi:
KKB
Tajo

Juls:
Town

Juls

CrimpingNoofball

SpyreX

xRECKONERx

populartajo
The Mask

Amrun

evilpacman18

Benmage

Lowell

Magister Ludi

AlmasterGM

Katsuki
kanyeknowsbest
Haylen

C-Worl (replacing WingDamage9001)

Sathoris

Cobblerfone

Scum

Amrun:
Katsuki
populartajo
SpyreX
kanyeknowsbest
Sathoris

WD/C-Worl

Lowell

Benmage

Cobblerfone

evilpacman

Haylen

xRECKONERx

AlmasterGM

Magistar Ludi

CrimpingNoofball

The Mask

Juls

Lowell:

Ludi

Kayne

DGB

Amrun

Juls

Kat

C-Worl:
FUFUFH who knows

xReckx:
Amrun
Kat
Cobble
(others?)

Pacman:
Kat

Amrun

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NOTICE ALL THE BOLDS?
YEA, THATS THIS AWESOME WAGON THAT ALL OF YOU WENT OHH SNAP LOOK ALL MY SCUM READS ARE ON THIS SHIT AND ITS STILL A GOOD IDEA.

Jesus Amrun looks good out of this but my god

[SpyreX]

I WAS GONE

I didn't expect a power switch like that jesus.

JESUS

I hope I'm wrong.
I smell with every bit of my being I'm not.
WHEN WHEN Amrun / Kat is scum and Haylen is town I swear to god

[SpyreX]

Yea reck you're still town I just put that there for completeness.

If I'm right I'm gonna have to do some readjusting because AGM and CDB don't make me happy with "Ohh all my scums are on this yeaaaaa"

On the flipside looking at pacman again in iso to try to figure out who he thought was scum reads as a damn scum manifesto.

And Lowell...wooosh.

[SpyreX]

See I liked a lot of AGM though but that makes me a little sick.

Looks like no HORDE this game though.

Which is a sad day.

Here's a good two for ya RECK since its ye ol fun time:
If you had a bullet, where'd it go?
If you had a cop badge, where'd it be lookin?

----

Kat, that's my after the wagon went through quick ISO looking at the people on that wagon and who they've said were scum. With the others on that wagon bolded.

[SpyreX]

Ohh lord deadline isn't even tomorrow - its Monday. WOOOSH.

Here's what's got me confused Reck:

Lets say Kat is scum. So, that wagon shifts and lands on Amrun. WHY in the name of god would it get shifted again?

Its not right. PR claim gets chained up. Nothin. VT claim gets chained up. Nothin. Then a pacman hammer before claim?

I don't like it.

I need the rosetta stone for it though.

AGM you sir are not on my happy list for the moment and the more I look at this shit the more I'm thinking Kat's town.

[SpyreX]

Stupid time zones.

That's something then. Not enough for absolution but.

Ohh, if Haylen was supersaint I'd giggle all over.

That'd be a nice thing and I'm pretty sure we've proven we don't get or deserve nice things.

[SpyreX]

That sums it up quite well. I'm pretty sure that is my face right now.

I dont even know what to make of this.

[SpyreX]

IF I AM NOT HERE TO YELL TOMORROW:

If Haylen is town (she's gonna be, and my money from this is VT wooosh) I would absolutely 100% kill pacman.

YEA BUT SPYREX WHAT ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SAID??

FFFF

And if Pacman is scum (doubly true if goon) I'd have a rope around Amrun like lightning.

Further, get this, there's a THIRD scum on this Haylen wagon. This is a 3-1 split, I'd bank on it.

Now if I'm wrong and haylen is scum then you can make fun of me for the rest of the game because then sure as hell I'm not dead tonight.

[SpyreX]

With Kat?

Or do we have to have a talk about you repeatedly blaming ME for that wagon getting derailed.

[SpyreX]

If you're dead then I'm not dead which means pacman is.

God I wish I wish we had a vig

[SpyreX]

Don't you know its required by law for all words written by someone to be stricken from the records immediately upon death?

Amrun / Cobbler / Pacman / ???

I doubt its that easy. That would be gorgeous though.

[SpyreX]

Well lets play like we're both dead for the mo'.

Help me figure out what in the hell happened with the wagons today. Because you're under the scum-town-town motif yes?

[SpyreX]

Well DUH I got that. Yours was obvious.

But that whole wagon? No way.

Actually a good one would to look at who WASNT on that Amrun wagon and powerswung to this one. I've got a feeling there.

I'm almost positive pacman is scum. Goon or the no kill jerkface maybe.

But you just said..

Smarm man. Smarm.

Just like how if I'm dead pacman wont die tomorrow.

[SpyreX]

Thats one fish we're gonna disagree on for all eternity.

Although I want pacman dead first because even IF Amrun isn't scum that hammer is still junk:

I want this back. I'm not gonna be stubborn like Haylen.

For instance, I would lynch Cobbler.

But I'm not participating in Amrun or Haylen's wagons.

There's one scum in Reck/Juls/CGB
C-Worl usually doesn't buddy this much in games I play with him. Scum maybe.
Katsuki is scum.
SpyreX's posts hurt my eyes for some reason. I'm having trouble paying attention to him. I'm worried he might be scum and I'll miss it.

I'm gonna read Cobblerfone again.

AlmasterGM is second on my scum list. Apart from Reck's connection to Katsuki, he's been too willing to tunnel me. Since he was one of the first to try to vote me I'm thinking it was an attempt to make himself look town by leading a wagon that others expressed interest in.

These people are dominating the thread. I'd like to see a bit more from other people.

Sigh. I just wanna be proven right, really. And nothing else is gonna happen except time.

unvote, vote: Haylen

That hammer is gross - and maybe its confirmation bias but part of me goes "He's acting like cobbler and cobblerfone are different people."

Which is a "say I'll lynch X" then make some random notes about people on the page.

[SpyreX]

Why would you say that NOW versus after I did a quick analysis of the wagon?

(I'm also absolutely ignoring that request fwiw)

[SpyreX]

Whaaaa

That's like your 5th post since I did a 'wagon analysis'. Why wait for the objection?

[SpyreX]

I think your quotes got all messed up or I missed it entirely before?

You're saying that to say what?

Thats in direct response to the post right above it. CGB is saying speed games favor scum. I'm saying my experience is an active town can absolutely work scum in a speed game - but this town as a whole isn't active. There's WAY too much sideline.

It's evident you have a problem with suspicion against you. Don't dick around. If you're town, why not help to alleviate my feeling?

When its moonbeams you're damn right I do. When its NOT or its something that can actually be talked about I will.

Your whole fetish with my not voting WD like its some kind of secret distancing when I've made it VERY clear he can become dead is not tech. Especially with the tie-in to somehow voting Kat my other scum partner (and now apparently pacman too).

And Amunrunrnn? Its a parrot of the junk YOU said. With added bits that are patently false (as you, The Mask, being a "top scum read" of mine).

Frankly at this point I don't give a rats ass about your "feelings". You're stuck in this morass that, really, means I can't work WITH you because I dont trust you enough to be of use but you sure as hell aren't needing the power rope yet. And as long as you want to suckle on the teat of me being scum (hint: I'm not) and that I can be a backup lynch-candidate for you (hint: I'm never ever getting lynched) well what do you want?

[SpyreX]

Its literally the words right above your post.

Literally right there.

[SpyreX]

I deleted the large amount of capital letters I had because I'm trying to keep the rage to a nice midrange.

You are 100% right that I am not building a case on someone who I've said is a marginal target during the twilight of D1 after a whole mess of chuckleheads opted to powerbomb a lynch.

You're right (hint: you're not) that I brought up his lasted-less-than-a-post vote on me because that matters a whole bunch especially versus the SpyreX-hardon that means even IF he's town which I ping-pong around its obvious is scumhuntin mobile obviously has the gearshift stuck in WOOOOSH and I cant work with him (see also: him thinking you're town).

So, if you want to bang this drum I'll rock the casbah until the brink of dawn but all you're going to hear is the reverberations of me getting more and more wroth.

Just give your QT a sweet high five for the events of today and call it good.

[SpyreX]

What in the name of everything holy?

How...

How did those words come from the words I posted? Am I being punk'd?

[SpyreX]

Reck am I losing my mind about Pacman?

Or just more generally? I mean GOD.

[SpyreX]

SORRY I WAS BUSY SOMEWHERE ELSE GOD

Roleblocker blocked the mafia.
Jailkeeper blocked the mafia.
Weak Doc protected the target.
Doctor protected the target.
Jailkeeper protected the target.

Hider was the target and hid correctly.

No.

Even if Kat is scum no way they're waisting an NK to confirm the unconfirmable.

AND IF YOU ARE GOING TO START ON ME ABOUT THAT STUPID HAYLEN WAGON FROM THE ETHER I SWEAR.

I want to see what Kat has to say a lot.

I really am playing around with how much raw force needs to go into solving the NK mystery before the pieces explode.

Amrun STILL isn't bad.

Unvote, Vote: Pacman

Ohh but no way a scum would be that coy. Shove it. That was terrible and you should all feel bad

[SpyreX]

Ohh HELL NO.

Seriously now. Thats not how this works.

Maybe if a super secret wagon hadn't been run up we could talk but no way. Not today.

With no one dead last night lets not be awesome. Kat will unequivocally work itself out.

[SpyreX]

If thats how you want to play ball we'll play ball.

There better be no mistakes.

Unvote, Vote: Kat

[SpyreX]

As long as we're clear. This damn well better not be a teehee business.

[SpyreX]

I'm not in the mood for coy today. You played your card it's gonna go that way and we can talk about this tomorrow if you're right. If you're wrong, well we'll be having a much different talk because that cross out is PRETTY CLEAR.

And just remember, I'm not getting lynched this game. Its not happening.

[SpyreX]

I'll give you a hint: it wasn't because Kat the town hider was directly shot at by scum or Kat scum convinced her team it'd be an awesome idea to NK so that people thought the scum tried to kill her directly.

[SpyreX]

What? The cross out was because the hider had nothing to do with that NK. It was one of the other roles, period. Which side we'll see.

I'm still not sold on Kat scum by a longshot but you wanna put your foot down I'll eat humble pie if I'm wrong.

[SpyreX]

Good LORD you're being infuriating and I can't tell why.

Reck's list had the line "Hider was the target and hid correctly."

That, I guarantee, is not the explanation for the NK because that would mean either scum chose to NK (which the only reason would be to set up this response) OR went balls out pants on head and tried to kill Kat-town directly.

The latter makes the former make no sense.

Mask got anything cool to say?

[SpyreX]

Nuh uh. But I think the implication, either way you flip it, is that Katsuki is not a Hider. Therefore, she lied. C-Worl better not give us any of that cupcake shit neither.

How's that work?

Am I being dumb and missed something obvious today?

Lets not get into a slap fight today for the moment I want to KNOW you. Throw me out some reads.

[SpyreX]

I still have no idea what you're trying to say. Let's see if I can decode.

(1) The scum didn't target Kats, this is a fact - regardless of whether Kats is fakeclaiming scum, or town, which she isn't.
(2) So the scum didn't kill so that Kats could pretend to have had a successful action.

Is that what you're saying?

Yes although we're still spinning circles.

Kats-town: The scum would not target Kats directly with a kill as it would fail and that is stupid.
Kats-scum: The scum would not choose to no kill to set up a Kat-town as above because that is stupid.

Thus: The absence of a kill is due to, 100%, something NOT involving Kats. JK / RB / Doc what have you.

[SpyreX]

I'm still missing the piece that makes Kat scum.

HENCE MY WE WILL TALK ABOUT THAT AFTER I HAVE ATE HUMBLE PIE

OR RAGE PIE

[SpyreX]

Note the confirmage in Katsuki not having a target to reveal in her post today.

She said she hid behind lowell?

CNB made it a point to strike out the hider bit. Now I'm thinking she's the town's rolecop and discovered that Katsuki is not the hider. NOOFBALL, I'M NOT FISHING, SO OF COURSE DO NOT CONFIRM OR DENY ANYTHING. I'M JUST EXPLAINING TO SPYREX MY SUPER SECRET MINDSET SO HIM AND I CAN PLAY IN THE SANDBOX.

Either way, Katscum = doc better get their ass on CNB.

I STRUCK IT OUT FIRST FRFFFFRFF

Does anybody want to play the OJ Simpson game - excluding NCG? It's simple. All we do is say who we would target if we had each of the town roles listed. It sure beats breadcrumbing, because you know the scum are looking for crumbs.

Actually I'm down with this. Finish thine job mr.

[SpyreX]

If I was a doctor I would have protected Reck.
If I was a jailer I would have jailed pacman.
If I was a roleblocker I would have blocked Amun-ra.

[SpyreX]

Lowell can be dealt with as a function of this flip.

[SpyreX]

Note while we're gonna speedball today which is awesome I'd like everyone to chime in with at least this and get it compiled.

I've got FEELINGS.

[SpyreX]

The words would be "someone playing the game"

How the hell many is this wagon at now?

[SpyreX]

Ohhh now I'm waiting for something.

CGB lets see if you're 2 legit 2 quit or not.

I'll even play make believe and look for these buddies before the flip if you do it.

[SpyreX]

OHH SNAP

I'm not stalling. I flat out said I wasn't doing it.

Then I saw something I was hoping you'd bite on on this page and you didn't.

So, this can go through and you'll have a big thought out post come morning or I'm dead.

That's if Kat's scum, o'course.

[SpyreX]

I'll look for the partners after the flip.

I'm not sold and you've opted to roll this like its a sure fire thing. Which is cool and if I'm wrong then I'll eat my humble pie and you'll get your analysis.

On the flipside if this is a town flip you can bet tomorrow is a different conversation after the Halyen "lets all hold hands and not blink at people we've said are scum on this wagon" powerbomb and the pish posh on pacman who's batting a perfect game.

So don't make the mistake of thinking you're gonna bully me at all. Its not happenin'.

----

Claim your hypotheticals. Everyone should.

[SpyreX]

Strike two.

[SpyreX]

Well then you can quote that to vote me tomorrow if I'm wrong and thus SOO OBVIOUSLY SCUM. Since its not happening today.

And this whole "we're losing bad" for scum is really, really awesome.

[SpyreX]

Yea C-Worl can die but.

CDB:

Here is my humble pie.

And like you requested, I did look.

AGM is probably scum and I was wrong. He was WAY to vehement about that early lynch but what separates him from the rest of the flock? He kept pointing at me for "derailing the Kat lynch" when, really, the vocal movement of BOTH D1 lynches was.... you.

Further, this is exacerbated by the fact Kat was playing coy - the "I'm bussing AGM" is legit. The lowell is not.

Pacman for his play but if you want the connection:

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 5#p3050065

Thats not an accident, doubly so when AGM flips scum.

As for the third, I'm not as sure. C-Whorl under retard-gate, maybe Cobbler.

However this:

If I were a jailer I would have jailed populartajo.

Baffles me with TM being the kill. I doubt it was an accident but why set yourself up (tajo-scum) for the obvious death brigade? The flipside means the kill attempt was tajo and that doesn't make a lot of sense N1 unless Cobbler is scum OR it was an attempted setup on Amrun.

Who looks far more town now after the spread.

So:

Town fo sho:
CDB
Reck
Amrun

Scum fo sho:
AGM
Pacman (FO SHO on AGM scum)

You want more you'll get it, but thats the first parse I did as soon as I saw the flip.

Unvote, Vote: AGM

[SpyreX]

There was not a no kill N1. I'll give that a SPYREX GUARANTEE. That makes no sense under any realm of realms.

[SpyreX]

See Juls thats what I was thinking too.

BUT, with that out there why in the hell would you pull that move right now if tajo-scum? One down and hand another?

[SpyreX]

(one with Cobbler on it is what I was thinking)

I'm not opposed to a tajo lynch I just am way, WAY paranoid. The thought process that leads to that isn't WIFOM its a tajo death sentence.

[SpyreX]

See reck I told you Benmage is the bomb.

No redirector or anything else funny.

A 1-1 doesn't make any sense here from Benmages side. There is absolutely no recourse.

I'll hammer Ludi whenevs. For delicious prizes.

[SpyreX]

Hey how about we all make a pact to make this night not take longer than the day?

THIS TRANSCENDS ALIGMENTS YOU JERKS

(ppsstt check the Queue)

[SpyreX]

Well then.

Unvote, Vote: Amrun

NOW D1 MAKES SENSE TAJO YOU ARE A GENTLEMAN AND A SCHOLAR.

[SpyreX]

So, two down, 2 left and tajo opts for the hail mary against a claimed VT as scum?

Riiiight.

[SpyreX]

Back to back scum lynches AND you think Amrun is scum with Tajo BUT....

Tajo first?

Really?

This is absolutely the equivalent of a cop claim WELL before lylo. You don't lynch the cop ffs.

[SpyreX]

This push doesn't make much sense:

If tajo is telling the truth he is dead tonight which means that he is telling the truth about his targets being shared being a terrible idea.
If tajo is lying he is scum and thus wooooosh.

[SpyreX]

That isn't even paranoia. That's pure insanity.

In your example tajo gets lynched tomorrow anyways because she wouldn't flip encryptor.

FURTHER, on the off chance tajo is alive its PRETTY CLEAR he has a "not VT" result on someone. Which means he HAS to be a rolecop and a not death there means he's got to leave at least another PR alive (which makes the existence of a weakling + 2 goons even more unlikely).

And, in a more general sense:

13 alive down to two members?

No way in hell would I bus if I could absolutely help it.

Tajo wont make it to lylo but thats because this game isn't going to make it to lylo good gravy.

[SpyreX]

I really need a good pinch nose gif.

AGM DONT YOU START ON THIS.

I SWEAR TO EVERYTHING HOLY THIS IS NOT HARD. WE HAVE A SCUM. IN PARANOID LAND WE HAVE TWO SCUM THROWING THE LONG BALL HAIL MARY THAT WILL NOT WORK.

WORDS ARE UNNECESSARY. BLOOD IS LEGION.

[SpyreX]

Amrun was a town read when Kat flipped because WHILE AWESOME I didn't expect SCUM SCUM GOOSE D1.

hold up....

You didn't get a town PR result?

Jesus man

[SpyreX]

Unvote, Vote: Tajo

Fine.

FINE.

[SpyreX]

I think this is still moon math but his TEE HEE with it not landing on a PR makes me wroth and I'd rather end it because NO MATTER WHAT there's a scum here.

You understand the blood lust. HELP

[SpyreX]

I'm still on the record that this makes no sense from scum.

BUT, it could have been a snap move.

However, realistically, this is high as a kite but whatever blood for blood.

[SpyreX]

DEATH AND BLOOD.

THATS ALL I WANT NOW.

Is that enough yet? IS IT?

[SpyreX]

No matter how you cut this there is a scum. If the game was tighter OR tajo wasn't on the drugs we'd dance different but as it is:

THREE SHEETS MEET WIND.

[SpyreX]

C-WORL and Pacman are on the shortest of lists.

AGM not so much now.

And KKB WHO ISNT EVEN A REAL THING JUST WAGON MACHINE 9000

[SpyreX]

(thanks for ending this I hope?)

[SpyreX]

If you are actually town and did this on a larf I swear to the name of everything holy.

[SpyreX]

Ohh yea he's dead.

I'm just going to be covered in ragebees if this game went from "SLAM DUNK" to "REACTION HIJINKS" because of a damn lol, gambit WHEN WE ARE IN GOOD POSITION FFS.

[SpyreX]

If Tajo isnt scum today will go down in infamy as one of the worst days ever to exist in any mafia game.

I.E. Yes to your question DGB

[SpyreX]

All that aside.. enough with the cursing. It hurts my heart.

<3

Yea, now is the time to wait.

Although, if tajo is scum I could really see a C-worl tomorrow (hint: in his list I remember only vehement "BUT HE BE A PR" from C-worl).

[SpyreX]

Tajo you better be scum.

What reck said? Yea, thats what I said too.

Exactly.

Until you went "no its not a PR" then death.

[SpyreX]

I am seriously angry about yesterday.

On a level that I can't describe properly.

Unvote, Vote: pacman

[SpyreX]

Sup game good to see sweet ass pacmani up in.

FURTHER I think there may be hiccups in your setup speculation - remember, each night scum have died its been an open PR (because, FOR GOD KNOWS WHAT REASON ITS P CLEAR THEY WENT AFTER TAJO N1)

So, rolecop COULD be but not guaranteed. I concur there is no weakling that makes no sense.

So I'm down with this dance fo sho'

[SpyreX]

Benmage is town too brosideon.

Hmmm that means either I'm wrong about someone or Lowell IS scum maybe?

[SpyreX]

WHY DOES ALL THE FUN HAPPEN WHEN I AM GONE

YOU GUYS

[SpyreX]

Letsssss get it started in heeeereeee

[SpyreX]

HAHA

No worries.

I'm a tracker. C-Worl targeted AGM.

We could massclaim and I'll give the rest of mine. But this is done fo sho'.

Unvote, Vote: C-Worl

[SpyreX]

Unvote, Vote: C-Worl

Yeaa I'm down with a MC. SQUIRM SQUIRM LITTLE FISHES

[SpyreX]

I'm dead tonight.

Maybe there's a reason a massclaim would be a good idea.
Maybe some of my previous reports are on players that are still alive.
Maybe a little squirm would be good for some people.

I dont care about order too much (Reck and Juls should go later, I'm going last) but I think this is happenin'.

[SpyreX]

HELL I'll give a whole list cause I'm awesome like that:

7) kanyeknowsbest
5) Lowell
11) Sathoris
17) Cobblerfone
3) Amrun
10) xRECKONERx
6) Juls
14) SpyreX

BOOM headshot. Out for a chunk of today.

[SpyreX]

C-Worl can claim happy fuzzy bunnies for all I care. He's dead today.

Unvote

I AM CLAIMING THIS HAMMER. IT IS IMPORTANT

[SpyreX]

if lowell has to be skipped in order to make this faster as LONG AS he goes before juls un reck thats ok.

[SpyreX]

Still not done yet?

GOD.

[SpyreX]

Booooo

I was really hoping someone would claim PR.

N1 - Mask to Tajo
N2 - Sath Nowhere
N3 - KKB Nowhere
N4 - AGM Nowhere
N5 - C-Worl to AGM

Spoiler: votecounts

D1:

Katsukil

(7) -- Juls, xRECKONERx,

Benmage

, SpyreX,

AlmasterGMl

, Amrun,

The Mask

Juls (1) --

C-Worl

AlmasterGMl

(1) --

Katsukil

SpyreX (2) -- kanyeknowsbest,

Haylen

evilpacman18l

(1) --

CrimpingNoofball

kanyeknowsbest (1) --

Magister Ludil

xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris

Not voting: Cobblerfone,

populartajo

, Lowell,

evilpacman18l

Katsukil

(8) -- Juls, xRECKONERx,

Benmage

, SpyreX,

AlmasterGMl

, Amrun,

The Mask

,

populartajo

Juls (1) --

C-Worl

AlmasterGMl

(1) --

Katsukil

SpyreX (2) -- kanyeknowsbest,

Haylen

evilpacman18l

(1) --

CrimpingNoofball

kanyeknowsbest (1) --

Magister Ludil

xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris

Not voting: Cobblerfone, Lowell,

evilpacman18l

Katsukil

(8) -- Juls, xRECKONERx, SpyreX,

AlmasterGMl

,

The Mask

,

populartajo

,

evilpacman18l

,

Benmage

Juls (1) --

C-Worl

AlmasterGMl

(1) --

Katsukil

SpyreX (3) -- kanyeknowsbest,

Haylen

, Cobblerfone

evilpacman18l

(1) --

CrimpingNoofball

kanyeknowsbest (2) --

Magister Ludil

, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris

Katsukil

(8) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX,

AlmasterGMl

,

The Mask

,

populartajo

,

evilpacman18l

,

Benmage

, Lowell
Juls (1) --

C-Worl

AlmasterGMl

(1) --

Katsukil

SpyreX (1) --

Haylen

kanyeknowsbest (2) --

Magister Ludil

, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (3) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest,

CrimpingNoofball

Not voting: Cobblerfone

Katsukil

(6) --

AlmasterGMl

,

populartajo

,

evilpacman18l

,

Benmage

, Lowell, xRECKONERx
Juls (1) --

C-Worl

SpyreX (1) --

Haylen

kanyeknowsbest (2) --

Magister Ludil

, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (5) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest,

CrimpingNoofball

,

Katsukil

,

The Mask

Amrun (1) -- SpyreX

Not voting: Cobblerfone

Katsukil

(5) --

AlmasterGMl

,

populartajo

,

evilpacman18l

,

Benmage

, Lowell
Juls (1) --

C-Worl

SpyreX (1) --

Haylen

kanyeknowsbest (1) --

Magister Ludil

xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (4) -- Juls, kanyeknowsbest,

Katsukil

,

The Mask

C-Worl

(1) -- Amrun
Amrun (3) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX,

CrimpingNoofball

Not voting: Cobblerfone

Katsukil

(4) --

AlmasterGMl

,

Benmage

, Lowell, Cobblerfone
Juls (1) --

C-Worl

Benmage

(1) --

Haylen

kanyeknowsbest (1) --

Magister Ludil

xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (4) -- Juls,

Katsukil

,

The Mask

,

populartajo

populartajo

(1) -- Amrun
Amrun (5) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX,

CrimpingNoofball

, kanyeknowsbest,

evilpacman18l

Not voting: Nobody

Katsukil

(2) --

Benmage

, Lowell

Benmage

(1) --

Haylen

xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (2) --

Katsukil

,

The Mask

Amrun (6) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest,

evilpacman18l

,

populartajo

,

C-Worl

Haylen

(6) --

CrimpingNoofball

, Cobblerfone,

AlmasterGMl

,

Magister Ludil

, Juls, Amrun

Not voting: Nobody

Katsukil

(1) --

Benmage

xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris
Cobblerfone (3) --

Katsukil

,

The Mask

,

Haylen

Amrun (6) -- xRECKONERx, SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest,

evilpacman18l

,

populartajo

,

C-Worl

Haylen

(7) --

CrimpingNoofball

, Cobblerfone,

AlmasterGMl

,

Magister Ludil

, Juls, Amrun, Lowell

Not voting: Nobody

Katsukil

(1) --

Benmage

Cobblerfone (3) --

Katsukil

,

The Mask

,

Haylen

Amrun (4) -- SpyreX, kanyeknowsbest,

populartajo

, Sathoris

Haylen

(10) --

CrimpingNoofball

, Cobblerfone,

AlmasterGMl

,

Magister Ludil

, Juls, Amrun, Lowell,

C-Worl

, xRECKONERx,

evilpacman18l

Not voting: Nobody

D2

Katsukil

(9) --

evilpacman18l

,

CrimpingNoofball

, SpyreX,

Magister Ludil

, xRECKONERx,

The Mask

, Sathoris, kanyeknowsbest,

populartajo

D3

AlmasterGMl

(2) -- SpyreX,

evilpacman18l

Cobblerfone (1) --

populartajo

Magister Ludil

(8) --

Benmage

, Cobblerfone, Juls, Amrun, xRECKONERx,

C-Worl

,

CrimpingNoofball

,

AlmasterGMl

Not voting: Lowell, kanyeknowsbest, Sathoris,

Magister Ludil

D4

populartajo

(7) -- Amrun, Juls,

CrimpingNoofball

, SpyreX,

AlmasterGMl

, xRECKONERx, kanyeknowsbest
Amrun (2) --

populartajo

,

C-Worl

Notc voting:

evilpacman18l

, Lowell, Sathoris, Cobblerfone

D5

evilpacman18l

(6) -- SpyreX, xRECKONERx,

AlmasterGMl

, Juls, Amrun,

C-Worl

Juls (1) --

evilpacman18l

kanyeknowsbest (1) -- Lowell
Lowell (1) -- Cobblerfone

Not voting: kanyeknowsbest, Sathoris

Despite looking GROSS on VCA, Reck and Juls are still town - if it was a dead heat and I had to pick a scum... it'd be reck maybe but fah on that.

This is all GUT mostly:
I'd probably waste the inevitable Lowell lynch tomorrow and be sad when he flips town.
Sathoris is my legitimate gut guess - especially because of the AGM kill.
kkb I think is town.
Amrun I think is town.
Cobbler would also be for death.

[SpyreX]

Unvote, Vote: C-Worl

SEE Tajo, this is how you roll a gambit. Fearless. No extra bits. Controlled. Smooth as silk.

And on the right target.

(Yea thats right I'm vanilla WHAT)

[SpyreX]

Lets not bow yet.

I'll look like the largest of asses if I'm wrong.

Good thing I'm not. My bit o' notes said ONE OF C-WORL AND PACMAN IS SCUM DONT YOU FORGET THIS IDIOT.

So I didn't.

[SpyreX]

Of course not.

I called myself an idiot though so it was serious business.

[SpyreX]

And now I'm going to have nightmares.

AWESOME

[SpyreX]

Well done Juls.

Reck you had me. Ludi had me pretty well. The other two wooosh.
We had some strong town BUT we had some dead weight which hurts - thankfully Juls made the decision I definitely wouldn't have.

As for the setup itself:

It was town sided. Not "BROKEN" but it was town leaning and I probably would have pushed for something in review for the scum - especially since tracker becomes stronger as the scumteam becomes weaker.

That said, N1 (assuming VT lynch):
Trackers have a 1/17 chance of getting a "real" result. They have a 3/17 chance of a "false" result. I'm pretty sure this lead to The Mask getting NK'd N2 in this game what with me thinking I got a bite because I sure didn't expect jail on tajo when I saw that result.
Jailkeeper has a 2/17 chance of blocking the kill. In this case, it doesn't give which end was blocked - as we saw with the blood for tajo it really didn't enter him being the NK.
Rolecop has a 1/17 chance of catching an obvious scum - sans fakeclaim shenanigans. NOW, one change I would have made would have been tracker and jailer being scum available roles - because that, while it didn't come up, was a huge worry.

Add in the double role shenanigans (which with it being benmage the obvtown for me wasn't an issue) and you could have had a recipe for disaster.

That said the only other thing I'd say is you ran a hard endgame road Reck with the obvious "why are YOU alive considering X,Y,Z are Nk'd" being forced to kill some of those targets hurts and not a position I relish.

[SpyreX]

When I shot SpyreX, I shot him because I thought his gambit was obvtown and thus he'd be unlynchable. When he flipped an actual Tracker, my jaw hit the floor.

Before I got my PM with an actual result I thought about doing it anyways. Think about that.

[SpyreX]

A positive end result doesn't mean it was a good idea. I'm not as angry as I WAS but that made me sad all over.

[SpyreX]

Hey now I had half!
But yea Reck played really well. I, unequivocally, would have lost in that lylo.