Mafia MetaMafia ~ Game Over!

[Faraday]

faraday why is plum scum

Complete gut read. Don't like her latest post at all. Feels like she's on the outskirts of the game, and not really bothered with scum-hunting at all.

[VP Baltar]

I second Magua's call for a quadz full claim.

@signer - did you discuss in this QT at all yet?

[AlmasterGM]

@signer - did you discuss in this scum QT at all yet?

[Vi]

Vote Count Vi:

A vote count for the mod: JUSTICE
quadz08 (L-3) ~ VP Baltar, Parama, ooba, sottyrulez, Faraday, Demonic Angel, Gammagooey
Parama (L-9) ~ Plum

VP Baltar (L-10) ~

RayFrost

Minimum (L-10)

Not Voting:

AlmasterGM, Debonair Danny DiPietro,

Faraday, Gammagooey,

hitogoroshi,

Demonic Angel,

MagnaofIllusion, Magua, Nobody Special,

ooba, Parama, Plum,

quadz08,

RayFrost,

Seraphim, singersigner,

sottyrulez,

VasudeVa,

VP Baltar,

RayFrost

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[singersigner]

singersigner: Is your neighbor QT daytalk?

Actually, quadz should just fullclaim in the thread now. N0 and N1 actions, full role abilities, etc.

1. I am under the impression that it's a permanent, daytalk-ing neighborizor ability, since the QT says nothing about only talking at night...which is good cuz I already posted in it, lol.

2. He's already claimed to me, fyi. I can't exactly quote the QT, so I'll let him claim it again.

[AlmasterGM]

No. Paraphrase now.

[Faraday]

Did he claim scum? Cos he's probably lying if not.

[singersigner]

No. Paraphrase now.

OH OK.

[Magua]

If he's talking to you in the QT, tell him he needs to post in this thread.

[Gammagooey]

Why the hell ISN'T he posting in thread exactly. I mean neighbors are cool and all but doing that but completely ignoring the actual thread is dumbs.

@AGM ooba is probably town.

Also the assumption that scum optimized everything perfectly for maximum scummsmagic, instead of actually doing shit that they can claim and make themselves look town (like half worshipping fairly spread out domains and half not casting and hoping their domains will get worshipped.) is silly.
Probably more post when I don't have people over.

[AlmasterGM]

@AGM ooba is probably town.

I don't like the way you keep telling me my scumreads are town. Give me reasons why he is town. Because right now, I see scum.

[Gammagooey]

Because claiming a PR first thing and drawing attention to himself by doing that is more likely to come from town than scum. Also I told you why Seraphim was town earlier, why are you bitching.

[AlmasterGM]

Because your reads do not coincide with mine, and I like my reads.

[quadz08]

Here I come, soaring in like an eagle with a broken wing.

The thing I really dislike about Singer is the issue she made about the Mothrax PM which arguably lead to the modkill. I can't help but think that was deliberate.

Vote: Quadz

He's scum too.

... I expected more from the two of you. Go back and read Signer's posts again; if you think that's a scumtell, you need to find new brains.


RF questioning VPB's townread on him looks townie to me.

Plum's lack of participation is... odd. VPB's play has been off today as well. I'll have to re-read them both soon.

Can you tell me why quadz is scummier than them if you have meta and the like to support your cases? Not really following the <I don't agree with it, but it makes sense logic> of those two in contrast with the <I don't agree with it, and I have trouble even following it logic> of quadz-case. Might be due to the fact nobody's laid out a perfectly neat case for me. I have difficulty reading between the lines.

I agree with this whole paragraph, especially the bit at the end. I'd like a single, coherent case on me so I can respond to it coherently.

We shouldn't be claiming worships. With three kills, the possibility of being able to narrow down a liar to within three people is reduced, any confirmed non-liar group we can get at this point is probably just going to get gunned down tonight.

Besides, since I'm assuming most town worshipped N0 and N1, this will be the first night they can cast something, and so they probably will. I doubt there'll be a lot of worshipping going on tonight besides the mafia, which removes the other side of the claiming, so people know what they should be worshipping.

I completely agree with this. There's no way for someone to cast without receiving faith, so worshipping N0 and N1 seem like the only viable choices, except for those with the weird roles which are more or less guaranteed to exist in this game.

We definitely need to do a faith claim + a domain claim ..

Reasons are protown.

I have much reason to disagree with this statement.

Though, I don't think a domain/worship claim today is the way to go either.

This seems to be an odd contradiction...

Regarding today/questions I didn't discuss above: I super cannot say that I just want to get a few more votes on Quadz today. I do not think that is the plan and am fairly dismayed that it seems to be on the agenda. If there's any good news it's that my top scumpicks may well be properly connected to Quadz, but.

... what?

Well I guess Plum is scum too.

I'm getting pretty tired of this shit, Faraday. Explain your reads. Seriously.

In case people missed it, ISO MoI in this game, notice how he was gone all weekend, then search his user posts to see how active he was while on 'V/LA' for the weekend while scum-quadz was getting run up. That's all.

MoI didn't go V/LA... nice try at the misrep, though.


Gamma: READ THREAD PLZ. People did bother with it; it's just being ignored because no one has presented any good reasons for it.

Also, if you are quadz-town, neighborizing singersinger is a bad play. She did not have a record of being protown the day before and isn't known for having exceptional scumhunting abilities. However, as scum, it makes perfect sense, since he could use it to try and manipulate her.

singersinger making this all up is also a possibility.

I chose Singer because I know she's good at reading me, and I have a townread on her. And no, she's not making this up.


Faraday: why did you respond to Parama, but not Plum?


Aaaanad now, without further ado... A CLAIM.

CLAIM

I am the High Priest of DrippingGoofball. My domains are Syncretism and Whimsy. My alignment is Chaotic Evil.

My only abilities are Worship and Cast.

My Casts are as follows:
Mystify (1 Faith) - Protects a target from a Kill. Also acts as a Roleblock on Lawful players.
Super Secret French Cabal (3) - Permanently neighborizes me with a player of my choice.
Wagonalysis Scumputer (4) - Kills the player who has been, on average, the last on wagons so far in the game.
Coconut Launcher (4) - Kills a target player as long as their alignment is Good.
Oh crap (5) - Allows me to hide behind a player of my choice.

I did not worship N0, in the hopes of having a usable action N1.
I used Super Secret French Cabal on Singer on N1.

Oh! almost forgot.

DDD's still scum.

VOTE: DDD

[AlmasterGM]

So instead of doctoring or vigging, you decided to spend MORE faith to neighborize yourself with someone who was relatively scummy.

WOOOOOSH.

[quadz08]

... You're an idiot. Just fyi.

First, didn't have the Faith to vig. Only got 3.
Second, didn't have anyone worth doctoring. Might as well prevent the mislynch.

[Faraday]

Second, didn't have anyone worth doctoring. Might as well prevent the mislynch.

[Faraday]

Faraday: why did you respond to Parama, but not Plum?

B/c he's town and she's scum. Duh.

[Gammagooey]

Didn't have anyone worth doctoringa wk aontaoiwhjtoaijta;hj5;o3ajowjt3

No.
Die.

[quadz08]

Jeebus. Look, the only player I thought likely to get hit was NM-town (and that's only because of the claim), and I was far from sure that NM was town. Besides, my doc is also an RB, and in a game like this, RBing

anybody

could be bad news.

[Parama]

I didn't read quadz's post.
I'm not missing anything, apparently.

[AlmasterGM]

First, you spent 3 faith to neighborize, so you're that much farther away from a future Vig.
Second, nobody to doctor? We spent ALL OF YESTERDAY talking about how good the playerlist was and that there weren't any clear policy lynches.
Third, you haven't explained why you neighborized with someone relatively scummy.

Unvote, Vote: quadz08

[AlmasterGM]

Jeebus. Look, the only player I thought likely to get hit was NM-town (and that's only because of the claim), and I was far from sure that NM was town. Besides, my doc is also an RB, and in a game like this, RBing

anybody

could be bad news.

Not unless they are lawful. And certainly it isn't divided strictly by good/evil, right? Otherwise, you'd be AUTOSCUM.

Also, that power actually reeks of scumpower, the more I think about it. It says: Roleblock target player, but you cannot NK them tonight.

[Faraday]

I didn't read quadz's post.
I'm not missing anything, apparently.

6/10 level fakeclaim. I'm an 8/10 level fakeclaim spotter so it's not very effective!

[Nobody Special]

Hi. Nothing should be read into my lack of participation thus far toDay. I've been hammered at work; The Careful Reader will note that my participation sitewide has been exceedingly minimal.

That said, I'm happy with a quadz lynch; not voting yet as we're quite close, and I think he deserves at least a chance to try to explain himself. I will have some questions for him later tonight or in the morning. Careful re-reading is in order.