Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[Cobblerfone]

Cobblerfone #181 - Why am I scum? #188 - Given your Amrun thing didn't pan out, what is your read on him?

The Cobberfone mixing up Amrun is giving me fishy vibes. Cobbler only joined a month go, so it seems weird that he would screw up remembering who one of his buddies was. Amrun's reaction to this also seems over the top … making a separate post and going NEVER in all caps for it.

The reason I think you're worth watching is because of a post way back in the first half of the thread. With Kats at L-1 I don't have time to search for it without posting this post first, for I'll look for it after I do.

I'll give you that me mixing up Amrun could look like an intentiol mishap. But I assure you it was genuinely accidental. Amrun and Tarsonisocelot were both in that game and both have cat avatars. I thought of Tarsonisocelot as the most lurkerish the scum I was with, and then I see Amrun's sleepy, cool-cat avatar and I get mixed up.

As for my read on Amrun, IDK. She didn't get enough time to scumhunt before I killed her, so I don't have any meta at hand. Though post #224 looks like she's just starting to crack. Worried about being lynched without a single vote on her. It'll be interesting to see how this turns out.

Cobblerfone #188 - Unvotes in this game are anti-town.[/

I had no idea how close to lynching Katsuki was. Only a guess that kats was about half-way there. Since I didn't have a town to trust completely with reasoning I more or less agreed with anymore I unvoted. Now all I have is reasoning that makes some sense, but doesn't match up with how I read Katsuki. And I trust myself more than someone with an unknown alignment.

making jojes to vote someone is a nervous scumtell.
posting unoficial votecoutns is also a scumtell

The only game I've finished, I've been scum. I don't have a town to compare metas yet, but I was calm and calculating as scum. (At least, I like to think so. )
And there wasn't a votecount yet, what am I supposed to do, sit in the dark and hope no one accidentally gets lynched early because everybody lost track? It reads like a joke reason. This post is horrible.

VOTE: Populartajo

Reck while the contents of the list itself are kinda WOOSH in spots I kinda get a good vibe from its existence.

Quite bad, first genuine scum-buddying tell I've been able to discern. Even if Populartajo is town it still seems like you're trying too hard to be flexible.

PREDIT: Woah, you're still voting for Katsuki aren't you? But you're showing doubts? And trying to make it seem like a town lynch wouldn't be as bad?

UNVOTE: Populartajo

VOTE: SpyreX

Sorry for the wall, but there was a lot to respond to.

[Benmage]

Can't really say I'm necessary less interested in seeing Kats die... I guess the only bold thing would be the risk to an easy CC....does that mean we really can't string him up, humph.

Scum would probably fake a stronger PR, if they wanted to out that PR.... Strong chances for a CC....GD'it.

Unvote

[Amrun]

Hider is somewhat verifiable, sort of, if we have her hide behind scummy targets...

I can't make up my mind.

Unvote

For now.

VOTE: kanye

So no sneaky hammers.

Also, cobblerfone was basically onbvscum inn the game he's talking about and I have a townread on him this time around.

P-edit: Benmage unvoted too, but I will as well while we wait for a possible CC.

[populartajo]

Guys, I thought the same thing but

1) Anything not on this list doesn't appear in the game
2) No role is guaranteed to be in the game, aside from vanilla townie
3) Any role can appear twice or more
4) A mafia member cannot perform a nightkill and another action on the same night

anybody can claim anything with no risk of being cced.

[xRECKONERx]

stop derailing the wagon
we can bank the time if we lynch early

[SpyreX]

PREDIT: Woah, you're still voting for Katsuki aren't you? But you're showing doubts? And trying to make it seem like a town lynch wouldn't be as bad?

Yep. OHH HOT DAMN

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Damnit you two that's not an acceptable reason and you know it:

1) Anything not on this list doesn't appear in the game
2) No role is guaranteed to be in the game, aside from vanilla townie

3) Any role can appear twice or more

4) A mafia member cannot perform a nightkill and another action on the same night

And yea it goes without saying Kat's on

a leash

MY LEASH if she doesn't get the rope.

And good lord look at the roles what was she going to claim for petes sake? Hider and Weak Doc are cop-lite's in this business AND a CC here would be a big ol "don't shoot here"

COME ON

[SpyreX]

Reckkkk

HELP ME

[evilpacman18]

Amrun, why did you vote Kanye?

[populartajo]

making jojes to vote someone is a nervous scumtell.
posting unoficial votecoutns is also a scumtell

The only game I've finished, I've been scum. I don't have a town to compare metas yet, but I was calm and calculating as scum. (At least, I like to think so. )
And there wasn't a votecount yet, what am I supposed to do, sit in the dark and hope no one accidentally gets lynched early because everybody lost track? It reads like a joke reason. This post is horrible.

VOTE: Populartajo
you made a nervous joke to appera you were all cool when you voted katsuki. scumtell
you posted an unoficial votecount to appear helpful. scumtell.
my post isnt horrible.
tyvm.

Reck while the contents of the list itself are kinda WOOSH in spots I kinda get a good vibe from its existence.

Quite bad, first genuine scum-buddying tell I've been able to discern. Even if Populartajo is town it still seems like you're trying too hard to be flexible.
PREDIT: Woah, you're still voting for Katsuki aren't you? But you're showing doubts? And trying to make it seem like a town lynch wouldn't be as bad?
UNVOTE: Populartajo
VOTE: SpyreX

what is this i dont even
scum buddying-tell?
even if populartajo is town?

[Benmage]

HOT DAMN

And WE'RE BACK!

Vote katsuki

let the motherfukaburn!

[populartajo]

lol fail quotes
im def not voting myself
in case its ncesary

unvote vote katsuki

reck, WHERE IS YOUR LIST?

[populartajo]

Also, cobblerfone was basically onbvscum inn the game he's talking about and I have a townread on him this time around.

ELLABORATE

[Patrick]

Votecount

Katsuki (8) -- Juls, xRECKONERx, SpyreX, AlmasterGM, The Mask, populartajo, evilpacman18, Benmage
Juls (1) -- WingDamage9001
AlmasterGM (1) -- Katsuki
SpyreX (3) -- kanyeknowsbest, Haylen, Cobblerfone
evilpacman18 (1) -- CrimpingNoofball
kanyeknowsbest (2) -- Magister Ludi, Amrun
xRECKONERx (1) -- Sathoris

Not voting: Lowell
18 alive, 10 to lynch.

[Cobblerfone]

@Amrun: I was obvscum, eh? Well pooh. But yeah, I'm also interested in hearing how.

Found the suspcious AGM post:

ITT caught scum is frusturated.

Fuck it I can't resist the delicious taste of a D1 scumlynch, even if they are going to bus their buddies.

Unvote, Vote: Katsuki

You're certain Katsuki's scum and you say kat's bussing buddies. Her vote's on you. <_< Even though "no scum would do that", you're obviously not paying much attention to the thread.

Plus you are obsessed with banking the deadline, but 4 days is plenty. I think you want to end the day early because you're scum.

SpyreX's most recent posts make me a bit less sure, but they're also kind of null to me. The parts that feel town look more like a part of style than any indication of alignment.

[Amrun]

In the last game I plauyed with home, Cobblerfone was very scummy. Several people had him pegged as scum, especially TwoHeadedBoy, but it was a b-mod and the game ended on like d2 due to a weird mechanic.

He has played very differently this game and his effort seems more genuine.

Simple as that.

unvote; vote katsuki

Screw it. Bank, deadline, bank.

[Cobblerfone]

you made a nervous joke to appera you were all cool when you voted katsuki. scumtell
you posted an unoficial votecount to appear helpful. scumtell.
my post isnt horrible.
tyvm.

Jokes are null. I couldn't resist.

Vote counts are null. Yeah, scum could try to look helpful. But town wants to know what's happening. I asked for a count, nobody provided, I made a count.

Your two points against me were null, thus a bad post.

[Benmage]

Kill kill kill... L-1.

[SpyreX]

Hard to be flexible.

Well done.

Screw it HAMMER IS GO.

I want a locked thread when I get back.

[SpyreX]

And in case I'm dead:

The horde is to demolish that list. Remember rule #1 because THATS GONNA DONE BE AN ISSUE.

What I'm saying here is there's WAY too many non-factors already.

[Cobblerfone]

There are still people who haven't even posted that much. The Mask, Lowell, Kanye, Sathoris, Ludi, WingDamage, and Haylen. That's nearly half the roster. I mean, bankable deadline sure, but what use is it if half the town has hardly posted enough material to go off of for the next day? We still have about 72 hours left, don't we? Why is everyone obsessed with banking? I've seen 24 hour deadline games, this 4 day deadline is nothing.

If katsuki flips scum, I am going to feel so stupid.

[SpyreX]

If that list you just posted is all "the town" I'd eat a million hats.

I don't care about banking. I could have 3 months banked and I'm still gonna push it to the limit.

Kat's gotta go.

[Benmage]

Roger, I'd rather bank bank bank...have a good ole time to review later.

[Benmage]

Ehhh one sec.

MOD

how long is night?

Am i really unable to see it the rules?

[SpyreX]

Its not there.

I wouldn't CRY if Kat had a chance to post before roping JIC.

[Juls]

Jules and Our obv-townieness.

No scum says this. Hence my town read.

But I just referenced a game where she did EXACTLY that. I am not saying she is scum but aren't you just doing what you said that she was doing with me? You are calling her obv-town. I don't get you at all. But I will drop it I guess since it isn't a "case".

Ah man. IDK. Should I vote Katsuki, even though the only reason I think Kats might be scum is because of what other players who's alignments I don't know have said? (Though Kats's lynch could help form reads, I'm not sure.)
...
I'll still post and question and defend as necessary, of course.

wow this is perhaps the scummiest thing I have read all game and almost makes me think Kat is town.
Scenario 1: Kat is town - Holy crap is that some scum waffling about pushing a wagon that scum knows is gonna be a mislynch
Scenario 2: Kat is scum - Then maybe not so scummy :/

Part 2 is also way over the top trying to look town. Seriously, if Kat dies and flips town, I am coming after you.
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I don't like the argument about Amrun posting after Spy questioned where she was. All her responses to the line of questioning seem townie.

i dislike when people post when they are going to post, but posting is overall ok.

I guess I could see if I posted that I wasn't going to be on a lot but my schedule shows I might not be able to post for 1 day. It is speed mafia and I had hoped others would follow suit so I could hold them accountable for lurking (as I expect you all to do to me if I lurk).


[Through 250: I see Kat is at L-1 and want this post to post before night. I will finish this page and post more if necessary in case of a hammer]