Speed Mafia (Game Over, who won?)

[CrimpingNoofball]

We also would like Katsu to get a chance to post before the hammer drops. Or before We hammer, as the case may be.
Thus, We would be inclined to deeply suspect anyone getting to twitchy right now.
In fact... We are slightly inclined to call off a Katsu Lynch. Convince Us, wagoners.

Katsu? Do you have words?

For additional thought:

As I said, I'm not going to apologize for not knowing the thread was open when I never received a link or notification that the game had started. If I'm lynched for such a stupid reason, I'll simply chalk it up to a mod mistake I failed to dig myself out of and slink away with my tail in between my legs.

Last time I saw amrun-scum (the only time) she caught some heat early-on.. and was really bothered by it. By HOW she caught suspicion. She flipped scum.
Here, it seems like, between the lines, she is saying that there are BETTER reasons for her lynch.. and she would be dissapointed that she got lynched for THAT reason.

Then there are these:

I also knew having my top suspect as Katsuki wouldn't look great, but she IS my top suspect and that's that.

unvote; vote katsuki

Screw it. Bank, deadline, bank.

Dont like that reasoning. Dont like it at all.

in fact:

UNVOTE
VOTE: AMRUN

-c

[Katsuki]

Back.

Gimme a bit gonna dig through the tread for a re-read.

[Juls]

Only other thing I see of note in the last page is

If katsuki flips scum, I am going to feel so stupid.

Cobbler is COMPLETELY blowing my read on Kat.

All the cool kids are doing list so here is mine

Town

Juls
SpyreX
Amrun
populartajo

Townier than the majority

Benmage
CrimpingNoofball

Unknown

xRECKONERx
Haylen
evilpacman18
Lowell
The Mask
Magister Ludi
Sathoris

Scummier than the majority

AlmasterGM - too much weirdness surrounding him. Vibe more than evidence at this point.
kanyeknowsbest - why anyone has him in their town column after 3 posts of nothing in 12 pages is beyond me.
WingDamage9001 - see kanye

Scum

Katsuki - either or with Kat
Cobblerfone - either or with Kat

[Juls]

In fact, I can't take it...

Unvote, Vote Cobbler

Let me be clear. I think there is A LOT to be learned from a Kat lynch and I still have yet to see anything protown about her. I very well may switch back.

[Magister Ludi]

I am on the west coast of the us.

This intial nugget by cobbler is terrible "think Kanye, Evilpacman, and CrimpingNoofball are town." considering kayne has admitted himself to being absolutely useless and not doing much of anything, so I fail to see where the town read comes from.

This statement reads as throwing a bunch of names out there and hoping one or more stick in people's minds as town, which helps reinforce a positive image of the entire group, which is a fairly comment tactic to make the poster himself look townish (as hey, some people here are doing town things!!) and bolster standing of any potential buddies.

Then of note is populartajos 258 in which he briefly votes cobble and paints him in a bad light (I assume cobble he later clarified he wansn't voting himself), but the sprints away and doesn't pursue this line of reasoning to join the katsuki wagon. I'd be happy to lay a vote down here as well.

[CrimpingNoofball]

Good catch ML. Love it.

~DGB

[AlmasterGM]

In fact, I can't take it...

Unvote, Vote Cobbler

Let me be clear. I think there is A LOT to be learned from a Kat lynch and I still have yet to see anything protown about her. I very well may switch back.

This post is scummy. You're setting yourself up to get the credit that will spawn from a Katsuki lynch while simultaneously trying to derail it.

All these other people are scummy (

especially

Cobbler), but unless you have conclusive evidence suggesting one is SIGNIFICANTLY more likely to be scum than Katsuki, it isn't worth it to derail the Katsuki wagon. Katsuki is still scum, and there will be a tomorrow to lynch these other peoples.

[Benmage]

Completely agree with AGM... You can't be calling Kat still scum, and voting someone else, if if YOU think they're more likely scum.....not in the design of this game.

[Juls]

I think they are both scummy but not scum together. I am not derailing the Kat lynch. I am at a point where I think Cobbler is more scummy than Kat. My scum read on Cobbler is because he is posting "scummy". My scum read on Kat is she is posting "not townie and not scum hunting".

[Katsuki]

My post is stuck... pressed submit, page still loading.

Give it a bit. :/

[Juls]

My post is stuck... pressed submit, page still loading.

Give it a bit. :/

What?

[Katsuki]

I spent the last 20mins typing up a giant post.. and the tab is stuck. = =

I'll get another one up in 5 mins if it's still stuck...

[AlmasterGM]

My post is stuck... pressed submit, page still loading.

Give it a bit. :/

God, this garbage is SO scummy. It'll take what ... 90 seconds to make it work? Townies don't need to loudly announce that they are, for the first time in the game, going to post *GASP* content.

My scum read on Cobbler is because he is posting "scummy". My scum read on Kat is she is posting "not townie and not scum hunting".

This dichotomy was a lot less clear in your previous post, where you said you "might switch back." It was pretty much a textbook fencesitting post.

[Katsuki]

stfu

brb typing up summary of that post.

[CrimpingNoofball]

AGM: think again.
I would like to derail the Katsu lynch.
I am not ready for a quicklynch on a claimed PR.

If he is telling the truth... Katsu has a nice chance of dying tonight (>5/17), and if he DOESNT, then he soft-confirms a townie.
PLUS.... the scum cant hit him.
PLUS.. when he eventually dies.. he hard-confirms all his targets retroactivly.

Katsu: do you have a nighttime plan?

-c

[AlmasterGM]

Also, what the hell does this mean:

AlmasterGM -

too much weirdness surrounding him.

Vibe more than evidence at this point.

You are giving these super vague, weird reads. Please explain.

stfu

brb typing up summary of that post.

I'd bet $10 CASH MONEY this post never existed.

[AlmasterGM]

AGM: think again.
I would like to derail the Katsu lynch.
I am not ready for a quicklynch on a claimed PR.

Yeah but you aren't being Sergeant McSneaky about it. Juls is.

[AlmasterGM]

And sorry for the triple post, but HEADS UP: Every single scum in this game is going to fakeclaim PR. The days are too fast for us to reverse wagons on vanilla claims. So if you expect to derail every wagon that runs into a PR claim, this game is going to be a trainwreck. We just need to trust ourselves to PR hunt properly.

[Juls]

@AGM, you are the only one I have had a "weird read" on. And you failed to highlight the second part that it is more vibe than evidence. Primarily it's your interactions with Spyrex which comes off as buddying and the whole "Kat bussing" thing is not sitting well with me.

Not trying to be sneaky about anything either. I will concede my vote switch post may have been unclear but it wasn't sneaky.

[Katsuki]

- Wing #17 is awful.

- AGM #64: KATSUKI IS SCUM BUT I DON'T WANT TO APPEAR TO HOP ONTO THIS WAGON TOO QUICKLY.

- AGM #127: Only you tried to hard to buddy Spyspy right from the getgo.

- Amrun is misguided town because she actually tried to compare my reaction here to another game she saw me in as town. Misguided because in that game, I was raging at Fate rather than being helpful. I don't see scum bothering to do something like this.

- Sathoris #176: Reck scum for bussing Kat scum so vote... reck?! WHOOOSH

"I'm not touching this wagon nosiree but let me call someone else scum in the process"

- Mask #184: HAI SPY IS SCUM, BUT KAT MADE A STATEMENT ABOUT TOWN SHEEPING SPYSCUM SO KAT IS SCUM.
??? NO.

- Reck #191: My "case" on Katscum is that... Katsuki has a broken heart. EHH?

- Tajo is town for list.

- Haylen #242: I think she is town. Don't see scum explaining the vote like she did, especially given it was a bad vote.

- Cobbler is scum for reasons already said. Not retyping my stuff on that.

- Juls is town for #274. "Here's what I got so far, I want to make sure town has my reads."
- More in #277

- AGM #281: HURR LET ME TRY AND SETUP THE MISLYNCH FOR TOMORROW

OH NO YOU DON'T, ICWUTUDIDDER.

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This post is nowhere near as eloquite nor as literate as my other post was... but it's got the core of my reads I think.

The other post is still frozen... = =

Anyways my summary of the game, I'll be back tonight.

[kanyeknowsbest]

I apologize ya'll, this speed thing was a little more than I was expecting and I'm trying to get used to it. Anyways,

Vote: Cobblerfone

#180 Sorry but there's no way anyone reasonable could look at my posts so far and say "I think thats town" unless he knew I was town.

Ah man. IDK. Should I vote Katsuki, even though the only reason I think Kats might be scum is because of what other players who's alignments I don't know have said? (Though Kats's lynch could help form reads, I'm not sure.) Or should I start with the accusations? Even though I have no idea how my D-1 scum-reads might fare?

Waffling, doesn't think Kats is scum but is willing to put the vote if we want him to. Sounds like he's asking for a responsibility free ticket onto a mislynch.

#250 Responds to populartajo's accusations with WIFOM and then votes him. Then immediately changes votes again.

[kanyeknowsbest]

EBWOP I forgot to unvote first.

Unvote, Vote: Cobblerfone

[Katsuki]

AGM: think again.
I would like to derail the Katsu lynch.
I am not ready for a quicklynch on a claimed PR.

If he is telling the truth... Katsu has a nice chance of dying tonight (>5/17), and if he DOESNT, then he soft-confirms a townie.
PLUS.... the scum cant hit him.
PLUS.. when he eventually dies.. he hard-confirms all his targets retroactivly.

Katsu: do you have a nighttime plan?

-c

I should have a night time plan soon. It won't be like Hide n' Seek this time round where I was just spying around. =.=

[Amrun]

Aw, camn. Don't be upset about last time.

It's different this time because I'm town and my flip will vindicate me. :p

I cringe looking back at my reaction, but I was honestly just pissed because the mix up wasn't my fault and I was looking forward to this game precisely because it is the type of playerlist that doesn't tolerate that sort of mix up.

And I stupidly didn't check the thread before I posted that I was reading and ended up posting 6 minutes after someone called me out for lurking.

It's just such an ANNOYING coincidence.

This is my last post on that subject.

Pros of Katsuki lynch:

-She's been scummy - obviously so. So scummy that I doubt the town as a whole will ever trust her again.
-we get to bank time

Cons:

-We might be lynching a town PR


That's a big con. It's giving me pause.

How testible is this claim? I have never attempted to test a hider.

It seems like a good idea to test it if there isn't a scum RB but we have no way of knowing that. If there is a scum) we'd be wasting our time, right?

P-edit: ninjaed like 50 times

[Katsuki]

#17: WD terribad post. Weak attempt at trying to fit in.

- Reck jumped on me awfully quick looking back in hindsight...

AGM #64: KATS IS SCUM BUT I DON'T WANNA JUMP ON THIS WAGON TOO QUICKLY

AGM: #127: Difference = AGM desperation to buddy right at the getgo.

Sathosis #176: You're scum for bussing even with no flips WHOOOOOOOOSH.
Would mean that indirectly, Sat thinks I'm scum, yet votes reck.

Mask #184: I'm scum for making a comment about town sheeping your scumread spyspy k.

Reck #191: "Case" on Katscum is that Katsuki has a broken heart? Wut.

- Tired of linking btw.

- Amrun is using my argument with Fate as a reason as to why I'm scum here. I was town in that game. Her bothering to compare my reaction to another game makes me think she is town. Though as I said, she is misguided town (in that game, I was raging at Fate, rather than being helpful).

- Tajo is town for list.

- Haylen explaining Spyspy-vote is good, even if vote itself is bad.

- Amrun #246 is not good.

- Cobble is scum for reasons stated in thread. Don't need to go over that.

- Amrun #264: Might very well be buddies with Cobbler.

- Juls reads leaning town to me now. #274 = Here's what I got for now, want to make sure I get this in.
- #277 = more town.

- ML #279 is town.

AGM #281: Lining up mislynch for tomorrow? LOL NO.
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Summary of game.

Will be back tonight.

EDIT: OMFG MY POST CAME BACK TO ME.