Open 304 - Hard Boiled, Game Over. Was DY's Dystopia saved?

[toffee]

Toffee, your whole case against him is how you don't agree with him. You're making

assumptions

about him that IMO have no weight. I don't necessarily agree with him either, but I don't see how he's scummy for it.

Hmmm, I believe RC could speak for himself nameloc, it's not like he could be hammered anytime if I leave my vote on him atm.

it is town job to find scum, not killing each other apart.

If your opinion is that I'm trying to lynch town, then you're incorrect. That's not my intention. My intention is to lynch scum. I just want everyone to understand that lynching a VT on D1 without any other claims, given this setup, is a satisfactory outcome.

Why should we be convinced w/ chesskid lynch in this case?

There's no chess "case". If I was wanting chess lynched right now, I'd be rallying y'all to the wagon. It's just a spot to keep my vote because I think, if the day ended right now, he'd be the one I'd most want lynched. I would not prefer him lynched right now (nor would I anyone).

I'm just making sure if I just read you wrong. Your answer is noted RC, it might you're possibly just town, although definitely we're on different perspective, so far your replies are fine by me, you're not dodging it at least
UNVOTE: RedCoyote

[smashbro_of_the_SSS]

Did I not tell this game I was traveling and would be sparse?

(If I didn't, I meant to, which shows how attentive I've been.)

As an answer to your question about suspects, my most concrete read as far as scum goes is nameloc.

I didn't like nameloc's attack on chesskid, which I did comment on even if I didn't say nameloc's name. And then I didn't like the whole softclaiming business... I didn't like it A LOT. I don't see anyone able to explain how that could have come from town. (Maybe DH wants to take a gander?)

I have also expressed suspicion on Deity Kabuto.

At this point, everyone else is varying degrees of null to town. I have some thoughts on some null reads, but I think observing before expressing will be more fruitful there.

Succintness is not anti-town, sss. I generally post a lot of one-liners until I have a substantial case to post. I also got "called out" on short posts in CryMeARiver's recent Open, Follow the Cop ... Or Not (see link in wiki). I was town.

Rest assured that within the next several days when I am done travelling, you will see something more subtantial.

idr if you said that, if you did, i missed it. thanks for the reads, and i know that it is not necessarily anti-town, but if people are giving little info, it can be. I want to make sure that none of the scum can sit back and lurk for most of the game. Also, for the record, I'm liking your posts right now.


not gonna vote for anyone until we get an updated vote count.

[toffee]

@RedCoyote

I will explain my vote, but if I did it now, than nameloc would have it way much easier.

@HeloooNewman

Also, notice how nameloc isn't posting as much, a bit scummy to me.

Unvote
Vote HellloooNewman

You sir, are fucking contradicting yourself. Earlier in the game, I had ask you TWO fucking questions, and you avoid them, and now you vote me for avoiding your fucking questions, DID I place a vote on you? No. I don't think so.

You are scum enough to me, trying to ease your way in making it not obvious that you are defending nameloc, but at the same time turning the tables to DK trying to form a bandwagon, makes me laugh.

God damnit! Can't you just re-read teh game? Your questions were silly! Especially the "hand raising" thing.
And what the hell w/ won't explaining your vote thing? Watching you bandwagoning here and there, just following the crowds, makes me worry, I think you need to re-state your scumread stance more clearly, I believe it's just not me who didn't understand what the hell you are at atm...

For now.. VOTE: Surye

[DemonHybrid]

Um...toffee?

I happened read a game with Deity as player, I think this is just his style.
Furthermore, from the start of the game, I don't think Newman has contribute much about the occurring cases. Let's see... proposing a DH wagon..unvoting..saying his concern about possible future lurking, avoid voting his suspicion (does he have any I wonder...), and... errr... I think that's it! Can't really see his interest in hunting scum, which makes him added to my suspicion list after Coyote.
In conclusion, I don't think Deity's curiosity as scummy.

[toffee]

Well, it just this style of his has going too much on this game, afraid if him copying it to cover his scumplay. That's why I prefer if him stating his opinion more, coz I could be crazy if this his silly style continues. This could benefit him more too anyways, bad play is bad play.

[DemonHybrid]

You realize that what you just did fits the bill of one scumbuddy having enough of the other and bussing him while avoiding placing suspicion on him at the same time?

[toffee]

Kinda, but gotta go in a few moment, didn't care much 'bout it for now..

[DemonHybrid]

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[chesskid3]

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[DemonHybrid]

So, does anyone want to lynch toffee for being the common denominator?

[chesskid3]

I want a Surye flip to solidify my toffee read >_>

[Amrun]

Toffee just attacked someone for analyzing an attack on another player.

I'm going to join in:

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[HellloooNewman]

@RedCoyote

I will explain my vote, but if I did it now, than nameloc would have it way much easier.

@HeloooNewman

Also, notice how nameloc isn't posting as much, a bit scummy to me.

Unvote
Vote HellloooNewman

You sir, are fucking contradicting yourself. Earlier in the game, I had ask you TWO fucking questions, and you avoid them, and now you vote me for avoiding your fucking questions, DID I place a vote on you? No. I don't think so.

You are scum enough to me, trying to ease your way in making it not obvious that you are defending nameloc, but at the same time turning the tables to DK trying to form a bandwagon, makes me laugh.

God damnit! Can't you just re-read teh game? Your questions were silly! Especially the "hand raising" thing.
And what the hell w/ won't explaining your vote thing? Watching you bandwagoning here and there, just following the crowds, makes me worry, I think you need to re-state your scumread stance more clearly, I believe it's just not me who didn't understand what the hell you are at atm...

For now.. VOTE: Surye

You attack DK, make it seem like you are ready to vote him......then vote Surye without a word as to why. Please explain.

[DeityKabuto]

Newman I don't like how you are voting me based on your own bias of an "activity post" bullshit.

[DemonHybrid]

Newman I don't like how you are voting me based on your own bias of an "activity post" bullshit.

You know, we're talking about toffee now. I know you'd like to take the attention away from her, but no.

Unvote, Vote: toffee

[DemonHybrid]

Actually, I'd rather a toffee flip since toffee voted Surye and has weird connections to DK, but I'm okay with a lynch on any of the three. One flip would solidify a lot of things for the other two, so go ahead and pick.

[chesskid3]

can we do hider ghostclaiming btw?

If I am the hider, I will be hiding behind Surye

for eample
everyone does it
blam
hdier tracker doesnt have to claim if the hdier hides behind scums >_>

[chesskid3]

actually nvm forgot about the double kill downside to that

[Scott Brosius]

You attack DK, make it seem like you are ready to vote him......then vote Surye without a word as to why. Please explain.

This is a valid point. Plus the voting people over disagreements, not for scumminess. nameloc has looked somewhat better.

unvote
Vote: Toffee

[DeityKabuto]

Hmm... Toffee's style of play is even weirder than mine o.O

But eh... anyone else noticing how Newman and DemonHybrid seems to be buddying up?

It's not bad, but I'm just saying, it seems like their "voice" speaks the loudest of all, really persuasive, it would be really interesting if one of them turns out to be scum. *cough*- Newman (maybe)

[HellloooNewman]

OMGUS -

again

. Your act is getting tired my man.

[toffee]

You attack DK, make it seem like you are ready to vote him......then vote Surye without a word as to why. Please explain.

This is a valid point. Plus the voting people over disagreements, not for scumminess. nameloc has looked somewhat better.

unvote
Vote: Toffee

@RedCoyote

I will explain my vote, but if I did it now, than nameloc would have it way much easier.

@HeloooNewman

Also, notice how nameloc isn't posting as much, a bit scummy to me.

Unvote
Vote HellloooNewman

You sir, are fucking contradicting yourself. Earlier in the game, I had ask you TWO fucking questions, and you avoid them, and now you vote me for avoiding your fucking questions, DID I place a vote on you? No. I don't think so.

You are scum enough to me, trying to ease your way in making it not obvious that you are defending nameloc, but at the same time turning the tables to DK trying to form a bandwagon, makes me laugh.

God damnit! Can't you just re-read teh game? Your questions were silly! Especially the "hand raising" thing.
And what the hell w/ won't explaining your vote thing? Watching you bandwagoning here and there, just following the crowds, makes me worry, I think you need to re-state your scumread stance more clearly, I believe it's just not me who didn't understand what the hell you are at atm...

For now.. VOTE: Surye

You attack DK, make it seem like you are ready to vote him......then vote Surye without a word as to why. Please explain.

Lol, kinda in a hurry last night.
DH quoted me about this also I believe.
Deity's style of play I referred was his odd style in questioning people. While his votes history were quite alarming so far, I want to find out his true opinion 'bout all of his scumread and making sure if he's not just following the crowd.
While for Newman, I kinda like his recent activity. Although it's noted his last vote seems like an OMGUS vote a lot.

I voted Surye coz he's kinda dodging the question asked to him, shifting it to the strawman thing, not a very stong case, but I like my vote for now.

[toffee]

Hmm... Toffee's style of play is even weirder than mine o.O

But eh... anyone else noticing how Newman and DemonHybrid seems to be buddying up?

It's not bad, but I'm just saying, it seems like their "voice" speaks the loudest of all, really persuasive, it would be really interesting if one of them turns out to be scum. *cough*- Newman (maybe)

Hmmm, I'm quite sure you were voicing Newman as town (it's post #97), why the change of heart so sudden?
What's behind the read between Newman-scum and Newman-DH buddying up?

[RedCoyote]

@RedCoyote

I will explain my vote, but if I did it now, than nameloc would have it way much easier.

Sorry, I call BS. Even if you did have an explanation, I don't suspect it will be good enough to justify all the heat it's bringing on you. Not for a D1 wagon.

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So, does anyone want to lynch toffee for being the common denominator?

I would not be sad to lose toffee, no. I'm absolutely game.

You know, we're talking about toffee now. I know you'd like to take the attention away from her, but no.

It would definitely be a trip if both of these folks ended up being scum, wouldn't it?

Unvote

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vote: toffee

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Deity's style of play I referred was his odd style in questioning people. While his votes history were quite alarming so far, I want to find out his true opinion 'bout all of his scumread and making sure if he's not just following the crowd.

Could you just state for us, very clearly, whether or not you think DK is scummy? There's no reason we should have to go through all this filler unless you're giving yourself leverage to backtrack. Do you understand?

[DeityKabuto]

Hmm... Toffee's style of play is even weirder than mine o.O

But eh... anyone else noticing how Newman and DemonHybrid seems to be buddying up?

It's not bad, but I'm just saying, it seems like their "voice" speaks the loudest of all, really persuasive, it would be really interesting if one of them turns out to be scum. *cough*- Newman (maybe)

Hmmm, I'm quite sure you were voicing Newman as town (it's post #97), why the change of heart so sudden?
What's behind the read between Newman-scum and Newman-DH buddying up?

There is a hidden essence of "peculiar" inside of his posts. I am not saying he scum, but I could very well easily see him as one. I just do not like how DemonHybrid and Newman are buddying up to scumhunt. I'm pretty sure this game does not have Masons.